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Oh, and you can mark timber using snowshoes to get around on. Each Wisconsin marker carried a canoe paddle. It was jammed into the snow along the base of the tree and paint was squirted down that hole to get a stump mark on the stump. Stump marks are part of accountability. When the rest of the tree is skidded, the stump will show the mark so you can check. That's assuming the logger isn't dishonest enough to mark additional trees to steal.

Timber fallers--guys who have worked for years cutting with chainsaws, can be good timber markers. Our contracts started having the timber purchaser responsible for marking with a description on what the prescription was. Some timber fallers from Montana did good work and enjoyed walking around without having to carry all their falling stuff along. They were excellent.
 
Had about 30 loads logged (big tandem truck load to the top) It was easy to get to, so we split 60-40 with me getting 60. The mill cut the checks for each of us and provided each log on the invoices. The guy did a good job. It was his equipment, and he took the risks of a very dangerous job. All the money trees were not cut then, the #1 Walnut, white Oak, maple, etc. He cut the money trees latter and had several people bid on them. Several real nice walnut logs went around $3000 a piece.
 
This will be the 6th harvest, twice in my time, maybe a 3rd depending how this conversation goes Saturday.

Yes, there's been some sloppy work, and it shows to this day. I have my reasons of being skiddish and hesitant.
 
All do respect you’re the red flag. You want access through some one else’s land. You want timber marked (which is fair) but time is money. You’re taking out previous bad work on him wanting BMP’s used when in fact maybe BMP’s were used in the past, practices do change. You want certain trees cut only, that’s fair. It costs money to mobilize and move in from the sounds of it you don’t have enough timber you want cut to make it worth while for someone else to move in. Calling him shady and needs to F off.

Hire a consultant forester and get a real cruise. Then put it out to bid and let the best man win. Are you going to pay your neighbor friend to use their road to access your timber in the future? Are you going to allow for a yard on your property in the future or would it be easier to use the current yard he’s already setup on? That’s what he’s thinking about I guarantee.

I do truly mean this respectfully but I’d never work with you. I can only imagine the headaches before, during, and after. To unrealistic already and have barely even talked to the guy. You sound like you’re getting worked up over what if scenarios and that never works out well
 

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