lokin for a 50 to 55 cc chain saw

[hoss]

Has any body considered a mcculloch 10-10?They are plentiful used.They are powerfull and not to heavy.I use mine with a 20" bar and have never had any problems.I found mine at my local saw dealer. Someone had traded it in on a new stihl.The service guy said he thought it was stuck and gave it to me for five bucks.When I got it home I found that the BAR was rusted to the chain but once I took the bar off the saw pulled over just fine.Moral of the story new bar and chain+$5.00=good used 50+cc saw.Also I see tons of these all the time on ebay.Generally I prefer larger saws but I was lucky to find this one and have been very impressed with it's performance.

 

[mrk585]

santa claus fulda area I do see a point as far as the brake Im go to find a dealer with on in stock and ask the dealer to flip the bar when Im watching to see the hassel with the quick adjust

 

[skwerl]

Hoss,
If you've never used anythnig better, then it's no surprise that you are satisfied with your old saw. Few would consider a McCulloch today due to the nonexistant parts/ service and the fact that almost every other major brand makes a better saw.

 

[mrk585]

can any one tell me how to go about buying a used saw how to tell conditin other the looks and is there a # like 036 or somthing close to the size of the 280

 

[mrk585]

how was the old # systen for still as far a cc goes 017

 

[slipknot]

EFCO (cub cadet commercial)cs5018

I am partial to efco saws now that I have seen and ran one!
I have a cs5018 (50 cc 18" bar) Nice firewood saw! I believe EFCO is as good as any stihl or husky, dolmar, solo, echo!
John deere saws are also efco(the newer ones)!

 

[hoss]

Hoss,
If you've never used anythnig better, then it's no surprise that you are satisfied with your old saw. Few would consider a McCulloch today due to the nonexistant parts/ service and the fact that almost every other major brand makes a better saw.

Skwerl you are right there are no mcculloch dealer/service networks and modern quality saws of this size are lighter,faster and are easier to get serviced.I have used modern saws of this size range (husky 55 and stihl 029).They are fast. They are light. I still like my mcculloch though.It was a bargain and parts are not that hard to find.Cbailey has quite a stock of parts for the 10-10 as we speak.All I was trying to say was that for the money I was pleased.

 

[bugfart]

Get a used Pioneer P20 or equivalent series.
Great saws.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

can any one tell me how to go about buying a used saw how to tell conditin other the looks and is there a # like 036 or somthing close to the size of the 280

You can get an idea on compression by holding the saw up by the starter handle. If it holds the weight of the saw, or the powerhead drops slowly in jerks, compression should be good. If it falls quickly, compression is likely low.
If you're able to pull the muffler off, you can look into the cylinder and check for scoring. Beyond that, check the A/V mounts, air filter, carb as best you can, and check for play in the clutch and flywheel.

And are you wanting to know of an older Stihl that is similar to the MS 280? In that case, the 028 would be the saw, though the 028 and MS 280 aren't really the same saw. The 028 is usually preferred to the newer 280.

Jeff

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

how was the old # systen for still as far a cc goes 017

The numbers have no correlation to engine displacement.

 

[skwerl]

The numbers have no correlation to engine displacement.

For a couple decades at least, the model numbers roughly corresponded to the displacement in cubic inches.
024= approx. 2.4 c.i.
026= approx. 2.6 c.i.
036= approx. 3.6 c.i.
038= approx. 3.8 c.i.
044= approx. 4.4c.i.
et cetera et cetera et cetera
In most cases the numbers still relate to the general displacement, or will at least get you in the appropriate size range.

 

[bugfart]

The thing when advising what saw to buy is considering the needs.

Most are not pro's. The trees would have been gone decades ago. Most are tiddling fud-puckers like me hoping to cut a couple cords a year. It makes no sense to spend the money it takes to buy 8 cords of wood on a saw. Four years from now I'm hoping to break even.

Why?

 

[Lakeside53]

For a couple decades at least, the model numbers roughly corresponded to the displacement in cubic inches.
024= approx. 2.4 c.i.
026= approx. 2.6 c.i.
036= approx. 3.6 c.i.
038= approx. 3.8 c.i.
044= approx. 4.4c.i.
et cetera et cetera et cetera
In most cases the numbers still relate to the general displacement, or will at least get you in the appropriate size range.

Now that's intersting, as they aren't even close... How did you arrive at your conclusion? 25.4cc= 1 cubic inch....

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

For a couple decades at least, the model numbers roughly corresponded to the displacement in cubic inches.
024= approx. 2.4 c.i.
026= approx. 2.6 c.i.
036= approx. 3.6 c.i.
038= approx. 3.8 c.i.
044= approx. 4.4c.i.
et cetera et cetera et cetera
In most cases the numbers still relate to the general displacement, or will at least get you in the appropriate size range.

Just not in these saws-

020= 2.15 c.i.
024 Super= 2.7 c.i.
025= 2.77 c.i.
026= 2.97 c.i.
029=3.45 c.i.
064= 5.2 c.i.
066= 5.6 c.i.
088= 7.42 c.i.

So I think it'll get you into the ball park, plus or minus an inch and a half. But what good is that? I wouldn't use them as a reference of size. It works pretty well on the 039, 044 and 046 though.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

Thanks Lakeside. Beat me to it. I've been on Tom's website looking up displacments for the last half hour.

 

[Lakeside53]

Thanks Lakeside. Beat me to it. I've been on Tom's website looking up displacments for the last half hour.

Nice grunt work. I was just being lazy, and got the math wrong anyhow!

 

[Freakingstang]

Thanks Lakeside. Beat me to it. I've been on Tom's website looking up displacments for the last half hour.

What website? I'd like to read up on the differant saws and what sizes they are. I'm lazy and use huskys, they tell you on them how big the are...

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

I'm lazy and use huskys, they tell you on them how big the are...

He's only got Stihl saws listed. See the thread "Attn:thompson1600!!!." I think he's got the site linked from his sig.

Jeff

 

[SawTroll]

about the cqs since I can get a good deal on it I like the added safty and the quick chain addjustmet is nice

The version with QCA are on sale over here at the moment, and I suspect that they will be discontinued. The one with QSS has never been offered.

Try to avoid the QSS, and preferably also the QCA if you can.

Those features add complexity and weigh, and are completely unnessesary add-ons.

how is it that much more difficult with the quick adjustment
......

It is not all that difficult, but it tends to discurage proper bar maintenance.

You will have to dismantle the QCA system to take the bar off for proper maintenance, inspection and flipping.

 

[SawTroll]

I think I am going with a 18" bar but want to have the ablity to put a 20 of 16 on it

There has been some complaints that the (othervise nice) antivibe system on the 270/280 is too soft when longer bars are used.
I suggest that you try such a saw with a 20" bar before you settle for it.