Look what followed me home !!

[RaisedByWolves]

A buddy of mine (Cough junkpeddler cough) Has been telling me about this saw a friend of his has with a really big bar, and wanted to know if I would be interested in it. He said it had been droped and needed repair so it was going cheap, and cheap it went.

$60.00 and a saw repair was the deal.
Poulan PRO 655

The attachment is the portion of the case that broke.
View attachment 33088

With the usual clean up it should run nice as the cylinder looks good and it has monster compression. I tweaked my wrist and managed to punch myself in the chin trying to start it due to the funny comp release. You push it in and it springs back on every pull. I did not know this on the 2nd and 4th pulls, ouch.:bang: I did get it to bark a few times though.

The bar, rim and drum are new, chain is sharp but on its last leg as it looks like a racing chain.


The saw he wanted repaired is a newer Stihl that supposedly needed the carb cleaned as it wouldnt run. Turned out to be the ignition ground wire jumped out of its little holder and was grounded out, 5min fix. :hmm3grin2orange:


So aside from the info on acres site, what can you guys tell me about these Poulan Pro saws? Any good? Worth fixing?

Anybody know where I can pick up some used parts? (case half with lower bar mount, upper bar mount and an oil cap)

 

[THALL10326]

Thats a big ole huzzy there, dayumm what a bar. Good find there...

 

[Lawn Masters]

Perhaps it could be welded? I'm sure it can be done if you have the right equipment, and some care to fix it right.

 

[sawn_penn]

My old 750VL has been welded. A fine repair job, you'ld never know.

 

[RaisedByWolves]

I thought about having it weded, but where the break is it would be difficult to weld even when the saw was properly split/dissambled. The goober that owned it thought JB Weld would fix it, and now All of that crap would have to be ground out along with some of the base metal to avoid contamination.



If I have to split cases and pay money for repairs, I might as well look for the case from a donor saw.


Plus there is a funky plastic(?) piece that holds the top of the anti vibe(bear with me Ive only owned it for 18hrs ) in place thats broken also.



Donor saw anyone?

 

[rupedoggy]

Sometimes you just get lucky. Here is a new case half. Email me for particulars. Mike

 

[shucksters]

So how does it cut???? if it's fixed yet

 

[RaisedByWolves]

So far Ive only had it barking by squeezing fuel in the carb. Even with that bar on it it dances around too much to actually run it with the broken mounts.


I think there is only one mount still holding plus the lower mount hugging the bottom. I hope to get some help holding it and find out more about the engines condition.

One ring is stuck (lower) and if I cant get it freed with some careful provication Ill have to tear it down.

Im just going to see what turns up at this point.

 

[carvinmark]

look what followed me home

Nice score!!

 

[andrethegiant70]

Interesting break.. in a pretty beefy spot. I'd go for the new case that the nice man has offered. Now that IS lucky. Helluva saw, and yes, the older metal Poulans are worth fixing.

 

[Cut4fun]

Metal Poulans

You just got to do what it takes to fix up the ole metal case poulan. The new plastic stuff sucks in all brands IMO. Like to hear and run that thing just one time in my life.

 

[1953greg]

does anyone know how many cc's and the years of production?

 

[Cut4fun]

Link of info

does anyone know how many cc's and the years of production?

Just click the link to Acres site of saw info.
http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.n...d6d4f81b7a73b7e788256f77001aee25?OpenDocument

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Interesting break.. in a pretty beefy spot. I'd go for the new case that the nice man has offered. Now that IS lucky. Helluva saw, and yes, the older metal Poulans are worth fixing.

Nice mans case half should be on its way as we speak. Im not really sure of the age of this saw but they started producing them in "88" and may still be made. The parts are widely available witch will help with some of the smaller stuff.

Still have to get her running properly as I cant get more than part throttle due to the top handle break setting the throttle farther from the carb than desired. I did get the lower ring unstuck with WD-40 and some back/n/forth on the flywheel.

Acres has it at 6ci witch translates to about 100cc and Im figuring about 8-9hp at 10,000rpm. Im diyin to get it into some wood.



And Cut4,Them are some Poulan Pros in your avitar, correct?

Your more than welcome to come over and run this lil puppy any time you want, as long as your willing to start it.



We need an arm breaker smiley.

 

[SawTroll]

The saw looks like a Pioneer design - is this Pioneer/Partner P 65 the same saw?

As far as I know, Poulan PRO took over some Pioneer designed Pioneer/Partner models when it was created by E-lux......

Anyway, I think 8-9 hp is very optimistic.
The Husky 2100 had about 6.7.......

 

[rupedoggy]

8-9 horsepower may not be optimistic if a few simple modifications are made. The stock BP655 has boost ports from the factory. It is an older design but is a reed saw. If both saws are in stock trim the BP655 will indeed keep up with or surpass a 2100 Husky. My brother has one fitted with motorcycle reeds and larger carburetor. There are other internal modifications also. I am sure it is in the horsepower range indicated, if not above. Art Martin has a P62 that also has modification that puts it into this range. The two mentioned saws have beat several highly modified 2100 Huskys. These are good saws and worth fixing. Mike

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Hi Troll.


Not sure how the husky fits into the equasion as Im not farmilar with it.

I have read that the Pro's were decendants of the pioneer/partners and it certainly looks exactly like the one in the link.


Rupe, any way to tell if its a BP?

Externally there are no markings designating it as such, but looking through the exhaust port there is what appears to be boost ports in the cylinder.


Any way to decode the serial #? Any thing to look for?

I cant even find reference to a BP model on the net.

 

[rupedoggy]

Sounds like you have the BP model. Since the saw is a reed saw there is no intake hole across from the exhaust. Instead the intake charge is fed from the crank case. That leaves a nice place to put boost ports. These act like extra transfer ports. Good for horsepower but not so good on gas mileage. When you take your saw apart you will see them for sure. Take your time in re-assembly and be sure everything is extra clean. Don't slop on silicone and tighten things down. That stuff flows over the edges and gets inside where it is not wanted. Besides it isn't gas proof. If you use the original gaskets, new seals, and do a real clean job, you will have a saw of which you will be proud. Mike

 

[RaisedByWolves]

I gots me a box of genuine Calafornia sunshine in the mail yesserday! Wheedoggy is that some bright yellow paint!

Now Im going to have to compound and wax the rest of the cases while its apart so they match and not look like an old beater car with different color fenders.


Thanks again Mike, your check went out this morning.


And thanks for the tutorial on case sealing but I use a specail product for just such applications.


I think I might post a thread on tear down/build up when the time comes.

 

[rupedoggy]

Good News. Seems like no matter how bright the colors are on a saw somehow people still run them over with their equipment or vehicles. I know there are some reading this that have done it, but wouldn't fess up. I even know a guy that felled a tree on his pickup! Well that is a story for another time.
Your idea of a tutorial for saw disassembly/re-assembly is a great one. Even though this is a saw forum there are few that have taken a saw case apart. To replace a saw case requires complete removal of parts on your saw. It is a good time to check and rebuild what ever needs attention, Do it for the additional education of the members here. Thanks. Mike