Looking for a bar...

[atpchas]

No, I'm not thirsty.

A buddy gave me a very used 20" 3/8 Picco 3003 mount bar to play with. I've wanted to try this on one of my MS261s. So far, I'm liking the results.

If I continue to be pleased with the performance, I'd like to get a new bar - 3003 mount, 20", 3/8LP (Picco), .050 - because this one is quite worn. Problem is finding that configuration. I've spent a fair amount of time searching and the closest I've found is a UK site that is out of stock.

If you know of a source, I'd appreciate you pointing me in the right direction. Thanks!

 

[Bill G]

Heck I did not know a 20" 12mm in 3/8 picco existed

 

[Mad Professor]

3003 mount 3/8 LP/picco are hard to find. Also loops of chain with correct tooth count for 3003 mount saws. They all seem to be for 3005 mount/small saws

I use them for milling on an 066.

I know that GB has made them but I don't know a current source. There was a place called Left Coast Supplies that went of business that had them.

 

[Bill G]

3003 mount 3/8 LP/picco are hard to find. Also loops of chain with correct tooth count for 3003 mount saws. They all seem to be for 3005 mount/small saws

I use them for milling on an 066.

I know that GB has made them but I don't know a current source. There was a place called Left Coast Supplies that went of business that had them.

I miss LCS

 

[atpchas]

So far this is what I've found:
https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/st2m-0l50-a-sugihara-pro-lam-2050cm-3-8-063-72-drive-links/No idea when the bars will be back in stock. Meanwhile I'll continue to experiment with old worn Stihl bar I have. I may try some .058 chain since the bar is worn to low .060s pretty much all the way around.

 

[atpchas]

Finally got a notice from the vendor linked in #5 above:

"Hi There,
[S3-20-NS] ST2M-0L50-A [NON STANDARD 3/8 LO PRO] Sugihara Pro Lam 20″[50cm] 3/8 Lo Pro .050[1.3mm] 72 drive links [x30 Expected 4th August 2024] is now back in stock at Chainsawbars. You have been sent this email because your email address was registered on a waitlist for this product.

If you would like to purchase [S3-20-NS] ST2M-0L50-A [NON STANDARD 3/8 LO PRO] Sugihara Pro Lam 20″[50cm] 3/8 Lo Pro .050[1.3mm] 72 drive links [x30 Expected 4th August 2024] please visit the following link: https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/s3-ns-st2m-0l50-a-sugihara-pro-lam-2050cm/

You have been removed from the waitlist for this product."

Bar price is a bit dear ($80 + VAT) but not out of line, but shipping to US is $180. Oh well....

 

[bruiser2]

Why would you Picco LP chain on a 261???
Get 3/8" 0.050 RSF and don't look back or at the very least .325 0.050

 

[dankas]

...what @bruiser2 said...
MS261 is spec'd for a .325 drive sprocket - at least mine is...how would a 3/8LP even get pulled by a .325 sprocket? how many DLs is that chain for the 20" 3003 bar?

 

[SimonHS]

Finally got a notice from the vendor linked in #5 above:

"Hi There,
[S3-20-NS] ST2M-0L50-A [NON STANDARD 3/8 LO PRO] Sugihara Pro Lam 20″[50cm] 3/8 Lo Pro .050[1.3mm] 72 drive links [x30 Expected 4th August 2024] is now back in stock at Chainsawbars. You have been sent this email because your email address was registered on a waitlist for this product.

If you would like to purchase [S3-20-NS] ST2M-0L50-A [NON STANDARD 3/8 LO PRO] Sugihara Pro Lam 20″[50cm] 3/8 Lo Pro .050[1.3mm] 72 drive links [x30 Expected 4th August 2024] please visit the following link: https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/s3-ns-st2m-0l50-a-sugihara-pro-lam-2050cm/

You have been removed from the waitlist for this product."

Bar price is a bit dear ($80 + VAT) but not out of line, but shipping to US is $180. Oh well....

£40 + VAT = £48 converted to USD = $63.10

No way that shipping should cost that much. If the bar is under 2kg then Royal Mail normal air mail rates apply. It would be more expensive if the weight is greater than 2kg but nowhere near $180.

Edit: The website shows the weight as 1.13kg, well under the 2kg limit.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

...what @bruiser2 said...
MS261 is spec'd for a .325 drive sprocket - at least mine is...how would a 3/8LP even get pulled by a .325 sprocket? how many DLs is that chain for the 20" 3003 bar?

Change sprocket to 3/8 sprocket and tip must match.
3/8 on a 3003 is 72 for 20".
84 for .325, I believe...maybe 81...

 

[atpchas]

£40 + VAT = £48 converted to USD = $63.10

No way that shipping should cost that much. If the bar is under 2kg then Royal Mail normal air mail rates apply. It would be more expensive if the weight is greater than 2kg but nowhere near $180.

Edit: The website shows the weight as 1.13kg, well under the 2kg limit.

View attachment 1202052

Interesting difference in price between what you see and what I see. Below is the display when I put a bar in my cart. I see that I misread the $180 when I first posted - it is minimum order for USA, not the shipping - my bad.

 

[Mad Professor]

...what @bruiser2 said...
MS261 is spec'd for a .325 drive sprocket - at least mine is...how would a 3/8LP even get pulled by a .325 sprocket? how many DLs is that chain for the 20" 3003 bar?

Change sprocket to 3/8 sprocket and tip must match.
3/8 on a 3003 is 72 for 20".
84 for .325, I believe...maybe 81...

Stihl makes small spline 3/8 picco rims, can't use 3/8 drive or bar tip sprockets with picco chain.

DLs are same as regular 3/8" chain, they have same pitch as 3/8 picco, using 3003 bar mount, 60 for 16" 72 for 20" 84 for 25" bar.

I swap those out on my 066 when I'm milling with picco.

 

[SimonHS]

Interesting difference in price between what you see and what I see. Below is the display when I put a bar in my cart. I see that I misread the $180 when I first posted - it is minimum order for USA, not the shipping - my bad.
View attachment 1202075

If you want one shipping over PM me. I reckon the all-in price would be around $100 but I wouldn't know the exact cost until I went to the Post Office.

I need some bits and pieces from the same supplier anyway, which would negate the UK postage cost.

 

[atpchas]

If you want one shipping over PM me. I reckon the all-in price would be around $100 but I wouldn't know the exact cost until I went to the Post Office.

I need some bits and pieces from the same supplier anyway, which would negate the UK postage cost.

That is a very kind offer. If it were almost two years ago when I got the bug to experiment with this, I'd have jumped on that in heartbeat. As it is now, circumstances are keeping me out of the woods more than I'd like and I'm more concerned with reducing my collection, not expanding it.

Thanks!