I am looking for a used large saw,(24-48") I will be using it for a firewood saw. Many of the trees I cut are standing dead oaks in pastures that get up to 36" diameter. I have a husky 246 for most of what I need to do so wieght isn't as important as power and price. I've been looking at 044's 046's, 066's 372's and 394's. Right now I am leaning towards an 066. Will all of these saws handle a 24-28" bar in dead oak? are there any I should stay away from? What are your likes and dislikes with these saws? Are there any good sources for used ones,(I've been watching e-bay); I don't think I'd use it enough to justify buying a new one. thanks
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get an old mac, like a 125, or a 795,797. Or get an old stihl like a 56,56mag, or a 70. Or get an old homelite like a 1050. All of these saws are cheap and they all have brute power.
sedanman
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I'm kinda partial to 064's. Nearly the displacement of an 066 but ususally cheaper to buy used. I got my first one used for $200.00 and later sold it to finance another purchase. When I started looking for another 064, I fould one for you guessed it, $200.00. I run either a 20" or 28" bar on mine and have no complaints. I have had the 28" bar buried in dead oak.
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Hey Paul,sedanman said:
I picked up an 064 that needed and new piston and rings on Ebay for $100 plus shipping. The seller said he siezed it after about 6 tanks of fuel and would not invest the money into it....its looks like new lol. I bought a used cylinder assembly on ebay for $80 and it started in the 3rd pull. My brother is getting it for a xmas present this year, I am hoping that he will stop wanting to use my 066.... lol
I don't know if you rember discussing my 015av that started leaking fuel??? Is that a difficult fix? Its seems to be leaking on the clutch side of the saw. Are stihl parts required to fix it? Or can fuel line from the auto parts store be used?
sedanman
Just cut the piano!!
Off topic but, the fuel tank isn't even ON the clutch side of an 015. The tanks are split left and right and share a common gasket. Replacing the fuel line on a 015 the easy part, finding a new fuel line is the challenge. So as not to de-rail this thread, e-mail me [email protected]
056 kid said:
You may want to actually look at the prices of the saws you mentioned, then look at the feasability of heavy use, and lastly look at the parts availability when they are needed. Many of the saws you mention are good saws but are now comanding good prices as collector items. A good example is Steve's Homelite 2100 and then the 750 he sold yesterday for over $500. I myself pay very good money for some of those saws. If a person itends to use a saw for cutting and not for collection then it is best to get one that still has a good parts availability. Paul suggested a 064 which is a good choice.
Just my random thoughts.
Bill
An 056 MAG is a beast for torque and can be had cheaply in good condition from E-bay. $150 to $200 with bar typically.
The only thing I don't like about them is being a small guy I have to throw start one and it has no chainbreak.
They have a boatload of compression. So, if you are not a small guy it will be great, if not look for a newer saw.
The only thing I don't like about them is being a small guy I have to throw start one and it has no chainbreak.
They have a boatload of compression. So, if you are not a small guy it will be great, if not look for a newer saw.
old saws
Yes some of thoes saws may be expensive, and parts may not be so readily avalable. But many of thoes saws are cheap, and parts can be found. For example I just got a Mac 125 that runs for FREE. I bought a 056 super off ebay for 200 with 2 bars. All I had to do was replace the air and fuel filters and was able to cut along with my buddy and his 660.
Yes some of thoes saws may be expensive, and parts may not be so readily avalable. But many of thoes saws are cheap, and parts can be found. For example I just got a Mac 125 that runs for FREE. I bought a 056 super off ebay for 200 with 2 bars. All I had to do was replace the air and fuel filters and was able to cut along with my buddy and his 660.
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There is a lot to be said,for parts availibility.While I have a saw ,for every day of the month,not everybody does.Fact is,not everone,has the desire,or mechanical knowledge to keep the saws running,new or old .A few of us have the old saws,but bare in mind,we are all tinkerers,and collectors.I will grant you,that some of the old ones,will absolutley out cut the new ones.One must keep in mind,what is the purpose of the saw.If I were to only own 1 saw,it would be a Stihl,or Husky,of around 4.5 cu in.These are light enough,for general usage,and powerful enough to cut about any thing.They will handle a 32" bar,but of course not as easily as an 064-066.Another factor,is the dealer support.In this area,there are 4 or 5 Stihl dealers,within a 25 mile radius.The closest Husky dealer is 40 miles away.I,like a few others,wish that Homelite and McCulloch,would have lived forever,but they didn't.A few of use will keep the magnisium giants around,just to show the "new kid" on the block,who the real "bull of the woods" is [was ]
056 kid said:
Ummm, your buddy must have one messed up 660. I have an 056 Mag and an old redlight 066, and there is no way I can make the 056 cut with my 066. And you have a super, which is 4 cc's smaller than the 066 and 7 cc's smaller than an 056 M.
BTW, which are saying will cut with the 660? From your sentence construction it is the 056, but maybe you mean the Mac, in which case
I have no opinion.
Chris B.
Just because U cant make your saws cut right dont mean i cant. How can you take sutch an agressive stance when you know nothing about me or my saws and what i have done with them, becides being a know it all. And why would you want to pick on a 17 year old any way? You could at least use,(in my opinion) or (From my experience).
Stumper
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O56, No offense is intended but I wondered about the condition of the 660 when I read your post. I used to have an 056 mag and sold it because it was heavier but no faster than my Husky 268 xp. That was comparing cuts in green hardwoods(on the softer end o fthe hardwood spectrum) sub 30" wood. Generally speaking the wood has to be big or hard to cut before an advantage shows up when comparing over 5 cube saws to the 4 cube class.
The 660 turns faster than an 056 and has more displacement so should be marginally faster across the board.
The 660 turns faster than an 056 and has more displacement so should be marginally faster across the board.
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cbfarmall he just meant he was standing to the side of the friend with the 660 not cutting as fast LOL
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I would go with the 066. I bought one new about four years ago for heavy base cuts, best saw i've ever owned. First saw i ever bought new was a Mac 10 10 And went from that to a 800 homelight then the newer faster 923.Then into Jonsereds, 621 and on up and most everything else. Then a lot of tree services in St Paul started using Stihls, must have been around twenty years ago. I liked the 038 and the 56 models also. But in my opinion the mag 066 is the best saw i've ever owned.
MOE said:
I would go with the 066. I bought one new about four years ago for heavy base cuts, best saw i've ever owned. First saw i ever bought new was a Mac 10 10 And went from that to a 800 homelight then the newer faster 923.Then into Jonsereds, 621 and on up and most everything else. Then a lot of tree services in St Paul started using Stihls, must have been around twenty years ago. I liked the 038 and the 56 models also. But in my opinion the mag 066 is the best saw i've ever owned.
056 kid,
As stated, I was commenting more on the condition of the 660 than the 056. I own both saws, and expressed my opinion about the relative capabilities of one vs. the other. I like my 056 (and probably have more money in that saw than any other one I have), but I am also well aware of it's nature and limitations.
macman, judging by 056 kid's response I don't think I misinterpreted his post.
Anyway, if you can keep up with your buddy's 660, kudos to you.
All in good fun, Chris
As stated, I was commenting more on the condition of the 660 than the 056. I own both saws, and expressed my opinion about the relative capabilities of one vs. the other. I like my 056 (and probably have more money in that saw than any other one I have), but I am also well aware of it's nature and limitations.
macman, judging by 056 kid's response I don't think I misinterpreted his post.
Anyway, if you can keep up with your buddy's 660, kudos to you.
All in good fun, Chris
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