Lowering Deadfall, Seeking Advice, See Photos

[slowp]

It was terrible! Some times we had to actually have somebody show us how to do something. If there wasn't an experienced person available sometimes we had to figure things out all by ourselves using nothing but native intelligence and common sense.

I do remember being told not to stand downhill from the cut, though. I think I was about three years old. Four maybe.

The Darwin Theory thinned out the herd.

I don't think the internet is doing this guy much good. Note how many times "Don't work on the downhill side" has been mentioned.

If you survive and get the chunks home, hope you have a mechanized splitter.

 

[Gologit]

The Darwin Theory thinned out the herd.

I don't think the internet is doing this guy much good. Note how many times "Don't work on the downhill side" has been mentioned.

If you survive and get the chunks home, hope you have a mechanized splitter.

That's the same guy that was on here awhile back asking about clearing a tree from a trail. He asked our advice and then argued with it. Maybe if we told him to be sure and stand on the downhill side he's work from uphill...just to be contrary.

 

[Sport Faller]

That's the same guy that was on here awhile back asking about clearing a tree from a trail. He asked our advice and then argued with it. Maybe if we told him to be sure and stand on the downhill side he's work from uphill...just to be contrary.

or he might not've been able to post at all :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[slowp]

It isn't my picture this time.

 

[MtnHermit]

Handspike is any long pole used to give you better leverage:

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I had visions of a nail, thanks, got it now. Once that log wedges in the rocks no lever is going to budge it, hence I'm going to try to keep it above the rocks.

Another thing -- your tree appears to have a loose rootball and is laying across a couple big rocks. Watch out for pivot points, as they can swing that tree in an unexpected direction once you change the balance by removing crown end wood:
Forestry Accident: Bucked tree pivots, killing faller - YouTube

When I weaken the vertical limb, I'll be out of any possible swing path for the log, I won't chance being downhill. I saw that video several months ago, it made quite an impression on me. I have a 10-footer that wedged like that video, decided to leave it alone inasmuch as all the snow has created unacceptable footing.

Thanks for your concern for my safety.

 

[bitzer]

That's the same guy that was on here awhile back asking about clearing a tree from a trail. He asked our advice and then argued with it. Maybe if we told him to be sure and stand on the downhill side he's work from uphill...just to be contrary.

Yep, he also mentioned that wedges would be too much to pack in. I told him he probably had no buisness being out there in the first place then.


And Bob, that stuff about knowing not to be downhill from the cut at age 3 or 4, well thats just showing off.

 

[Gologit]

Yep, he also mentioned that wedges would be too much to pack in. I told him he probably had no buisness being out there in the first place then.


And Bob, that stuff about knowing not to be downhill from the cut at age 3 or 4, well thats just showing off.

Okay, maybe I was five. :hmm3grin2orange: Actually, one of my earliest childhood memories is being yelled at by my Grandfather for wandering through an area he was bucking a log in. For the first ten years of my life I thought my name was Dammit, Kid...

 

[floyd]

Wait, don't tell me. This isn't on the road you found out in the middle of nowhere that you decided to brush out?

And now you're going to toss this over the hill & drive up the road in the middle of no where you should not have brushed out in the first place?

 

[bitzer]

Okay, maybe I was five. :hmm3grin2orange: Actually, one of my earliest childhood memories is being yelled at by my Grandfather for wandering through an area he was bucking a log in. For the first ten years of my life I thought my name was Dammit, Kid...

I'm sure the log looked similar to a silo laying on the ground. Probably could of rolled you out like a pancake.

My newest thing is mumbling, "those damn kids and their damn stuff." I've heard them pick up on it with their own edited version. Its funny how many times I was nearly mangled as a kid and somehow came out fairly unscathed.

 

[MtnHermit]

I'd go like Billy Bob and start slowly taking a little kerf out of the limb, go slow and read what it's doing each time you dig a little bit deeper, maybe kinda gnaw your way around the front and sides (all the while staying as far away as possible) like a beaver and sooner or later she'll go. If she starts to go back towards the rocks, take a little nip out of the front and vice versa

I followed your suggestion of a twin cone except:

• I didn't have enough nerve to cut a notch all the way to the center from the downhill side
• On the butt end I was safely out of the crush zone and it was easy to keep cutting deeper
• Turns out that limb was so stable that even after I cut through, it would not buckle and fall
• I then used one of AT sawyer's handspikes to nudge the limb over center, see pic

The trunk part way down. I ended up with a 4" blade instead of the twin cone. The trunk rotated 30 deg in addition to sliding ~2' downhill.

After trying to block from the bottom, I decided to drop this 10' section and blocking it on the ground.

Finished for the day.

Thanks again for your suggestion.