Making new diaphragms for Disston, D0-101, Fuel meter.

[Lewis Brander]

My collection thus far:

Here is an earlier pic of the collection. The Disston, model D0-101 and my Poulan, 3400 CAV on top of the table. My Homelite, model 600 D and C-5 on the seat. The little saw is my latest one. A saw I recieved for christmas from my wife's sister. A toy, battery operated saw, push a button and she sounds like it's running. Pull the throttle and the plastic chain turns on the bar. Told my sister-in-law that she would pay for this, that sometime she may want me to remove some branches, etc. and this is the saw I''m bringing over. Told her she could pay me for my time and chain replacement. Ha. would take a month to try and naugh through a twig.

 

[Lewis Brander]

My latest saw: Homelite, C-5.

This is the saw as I recieved it.

 

[Lewis Brander]

Homelite, C-5.

First picture after getting her to run, cleaning, priming, and painting. This was the closedt paint color I could fine. What do you think?

 

[Lewis Brander]

Homelite, C-5.

Another of the Homelite, C-5.

 

[Lewis Brander]

Homelite, C-5.

Another of the Homelite, C-5. Well I guess that it for now, enjoy. Everyone take care, wife just called me for supper. Lewis.

 

[Dadatwins]

Nice work Lewis, glad to see you get it running again, looks like a nice restore job on the saw. How do you prep it now for shelf storage? I know drain fuel tank and float , but do you add any thing to carb to stop gaskets from drying out again? I have few old Homelites Wiz's that I restored to running condition after buying new diaphrams and such, they were dryed out like yours, and I drained the gas out but since I hardly ever run these what type of prep for storage?

 

[Lewis Brander]

Prep for storage:

Hi datatwins. I do just what you do. I drain the tank and start the saw and run them dry, for short storage periods. If they are to be stored for longer periods I will start them on a fuel mix that has fuel sstableizer in it. Just add enough gas to the tank to start an run them for a few minutes and let them run dry. I make sure the tanks are dry and leave the fuel caps a bit loose. I have also introduced some 2 stroke oil through the carb and cranked them over to spread the oil around the crankcase, to lube and protect the bearings and lube the seals and them pull the spark plug, bring the piston to TDC and fill the combustion chamber with oil and reinstall the plug, then set them on the shelf. On the old Disston I don't think there is any way of completely removing the gas from that old fuel meter. You can run her dry on the tank and she'll quit running and you will not be able to start her. But there is still gas in the fuelmeter. So using a bit of fuel stabilizer might help. I don't plan on letting her sit for as long as she did. About 8 months. I'll try and remember to start her every 2 to 3 months. Any one else here have any suggestions or questions. Don't be afraid to jump in. Yes I''m sure happy to get her back to runnig conditon. She runs pretty darn good for a 54 year old saw. Still looking to get the engine decals made to finish the restoration. Take care. Lewis.

 

[Al Smith]

Good job Lewis

You did a fine job on both saws.The color looks fine on the Homie.As for storage,I basicaly do as most,by running them dry of fuel.I also start them about every 3 months.I have heard of using "misting oil",but have never used it myself.You have the start of a fine collection,I am sending a picture of about half of mine[ which is small in comparison of some peoples] Al

 

[Lewis Brander]

TO Al Smith

Thanks for the compliment and idea on the misting oil. I shouldn't say this but stored Poulan for close to a year with the gas tank full of gas. As you can see I don't make a living with the saws I have. But, when I took the Poulan out of it case, I was surprised at what I found. I was sure that I had drained and ran her dry. I started the saw and had no problems. I was afraid of condensation problems, but I guess with the tank full there either wasn't any or very little. The gas did have fuel conditioner in it. During the summer, as far as my 2 stroke yard equipment, I never drain the tanks during the summer. My small rototiller gets used in the spring and fall, but usually I start them 3 or 4 times during the summer and let them run till they are warmed up a bit. I used to store my saws in my back shed all year round but now store them in my bacement, so now make sure they are drained of all gas and leave the caps loose to vent the tanks. Also your collection looks very impressive. OK, rambled on enough. Take care. Lewis.

 

[McC]

Hi Lewis, Your Disston sure is great. It will give me the itch to get mine done. Scott

 

[Lewis Brander]

To Scott Mueller:

I don't know about an itch, but have this thing about that old saw, to keep her running. You mentioned the bottom diaphragm, with the needle valve. I was looking at this "Seal All'' , all purpose contact cement and sealant. I was thinking that it might be good to coat the bottom side of that Mixure controll diaphragm with this sealant to try and prserve it. I have an extra fuel meter that I might take the diaphragm out of and see just what it may entail to get it clean enough to apply some of this sealant. Don't think it would hurt that old diaphragm. It looks pretty rough. Actually I was thinking that if this stuff was applied to it and it sealed the bottom side of it, the diaphragm might be able to be used again. Think I'll see about cleaning it and applying the sealant to try it. What do you think. The 2 upper diaphragms have been remade and this might work to save the bottom one. Just a thought. I wish I have nerve enough to try and take the old impeller shaft seal from the extra fuel meter, measure it, and see if one could be matched to it. Any ideas on the thought? Take care. Lewis.

 

[Lewis Brander]

Homelite, C-5.

Another Pic of the C-5 showing the top of the saw. The others didn't show much of the top. Lewis.

 

[Lewis Brander]

Leaky fuel Meter:

As I've stated before the saw is running great, but had a small fuel leak. With my eyes, I coulcn't quite tell where it was coming from. My uncle was over yesterday to have me work on his trailer wiring on his truck. Course had to show him the saws, he hasn't seen them, and got out the Disston to run it. Was surprised, it started on the first pull after refuiling it. Ran her a while and he helped me find the fuel leak. Was leakinn from the upper mixture adjussting screw. Last night, I removd the fuel meterand removed the mixture adjusting scress assembly. Found the seal discribed in the parts book and removed it. Don't know what it's made of but it was as hard as a rock. I ended up putting in 2 small "O" rings and piggy backed them. The first one was slightly larger than the second. Assembled the fuel meter and this morning restarted it. Had to readjust the mixture screw, but seem to have stopped the fuel leak. I had the doors open and my roof vent running and the old saw was running rich and smoking pretty good. This may be a bit funny, but not really. A couple trucks pulled up across the street and some fellows came running over to my garage. I see them coming and at first didn't know what was going on. Then I realized that they thought there was a fire inside the garage. I shut off the saw and they asked if everything was OK. I told them yes, that I was just running a 54 year old saw. Well they had to see it. So I moved a large piece of cardboard and saw outside and restarted her. Readjusted the fuel meter some more. Got it adjusted so that she blubbers a bit on the high side and idles smoothly. They were amazed and coulcn't believe how primitive the saw was with its direct drive clutch and no chain brake, etc. and the 30" bar and chain. I showed them my other saws and talked a bit about them. We walked back outside and I restarted the old Disston again on the first pull. Shut her off and I then pumped the gas from the tank and restarted her and let her idle untill she quit. Guess I'll have to run my saws outside from now on or people might be calling the fire dept. OK, that was my morning. Good for a chuckle. Everyone take care. Lewis.

 

[Lewis Brander]

Added 2 saws to collection:

I've just added 2 saws to my collection. A Bolen, model 3900-01, and a Homelite, model C-51. I have the Bolens is disassembled and cleaned. All it appears to need is a carburetor kit to get it going. Diaphragms are shot. The C-51 hasn't been touched as yet, looks a little rough and is missing the choke actuating rod and grommet. Will check it out further and let you know what I find. Didn't know if I should stast a new thread, but thought I'd keep this one gong, a bit longer. Just a note: The Dissston is still running just fine. Take care. Lewis.