Maryland Tree, Inc.

[md_tree_dood]

In Maryland you are required to have a Tree Expert License which you gain by passing a test administered through DNR that most say is harder than the ISA CA test. If you do tree work without this license and are caught you suffer severe penalties. Most people who do sidework don't do enough or advertise and hence don't get caught. That being said, any "company" needs to have this license else they'll most likely get to meet someone from DNR. To my knowledge, Maryland and New Jersey are the only states that you need a specific license from the state in order to do tree work.

That being said, the fact that he is a CA has nothing to do with the topic in discussion. The real issue is whether or not topping is illegal under the jurisdiction of the Department of Natural Resources in Maryland. IT IS (under my understanding that they must conform to ANSI 300 pruning standards). That being said, topping a leyland or something else won't get you in trouble. But if you get caught blowing out 30' of an Oak top, you're going to have some explaining to do.

While its great to have websites like this, its interesting to read responses from people who don't have any clue about a states laws regarding arborcultural practices.

 

[(WLL)]

when i worked in md. u hade 2 have a permit to remove and a lic to prune. hooking trees was a major fine.

 

[md_tree_dood]

Because of the chesapeake bay you have to have a permit to remove a tree within a 1000 ft of water. You have to have a Tree expert license to touch any tree larger than 3" in caliper and receive payment

 

[treeguy020]

IMHO I must say that topping is bad. So the hack and wacks top Mrs. Jones tree and Mr. Joeshmo down the street sees it, and on and on it goes. Topping is a disease. Epidemic, Pandemic. Same senario good tree work begets good tree work. So do right by the tree and tree will do the same. Shorten the life of the tree by topping and shorten your clientel by having less trees. No BRAINER.

 

[(WLL)]

Because of the chesapeake bay you have to have a permit to remove a tree within a 1000 ft of water. You have to have a Tree expert license to touch any tree larger than 3" in caliper and receive payment

its not because of the bay but any tree within 1000ft from the water is considered a critical area. if u get caught without proper permits u will get nailed by dnr and pay heavy fines and may get jailed. in the state of Md. u need a permit to remove and a licenses to trim no matter how far u are from a critical zone. it is against md law to spike a tree that is not being removed.

 

[fishercat]

Connecticut also requires a license for trimming.

In Maryland you are required to have a Tree Expert License which you gain by passing a test administered through DNR that most say is harder than the ISA CA test. If you do tree work without this license and are caught you suffer severe penalties. Most people who do sidework don't do enough or advertise and hence don't get caught. That being said, any "company" needs to have this license else they'll most likely get to meet someone from DNR. To my knowledge, Maryland and New Jersey are the only states that you need a specific license from the state in order to do tree work.

That being said, the fact that he is a CA has nothing to do with the topic in discussion. The real issue is whether or not topping is illegal under the jurisdiction of the Department of Natural Resources in Maryland. IT IS (under my understanding that they must conform to ANSI 300 pruning standards). That being said, topping a leyland or something else won't get you in trouble. But if you get caught blowing out 30' of an Oak top, you're going to have some explaining to do.

While its great to have websites like this, its interesting to read responses from people who don't have any clue about a states laws regarding arborcultural practices.

not that i care.they don't seem to enforce the shoddy work some of the licensed guys do.

i personally look to the government for my moral compass.

 

[Rftreeman]

it is against md law to spike a tree that is not being removed.

What do the line clearance guys do, are they bound by that law also? Just curious about that.

 

[ropensaddle]

Because of the chesapeake bay you have to have a permit to remove a tree within a 1000 ft of water. You have to have a Tree expert license to touch any tree larger than 3" in caliper and receive payment

Now ya'all keep that **** up there along with the friggin tolls etc.
I see how many or your people end up homeless sheesh bureaucratic
hog wash I say!:monkey:

 

[(WLL)]

What do the line clearance guys do, are they bound by that law also? Just curious about that.

same rules apply, but if you are a private company doing work for h.o.'s u prolly wont get busted for hooking/topping,and other poor pruning methods, unless there is a problem the chances are perty low of being busted. Taking down trees in the critical area is a whole different story and is very risky for private company's who dont mind taking chances, and disregard the rules. it is very easy to hear and or see when you r on the water looking in off a boat. dnr are all over the rivers and the bay looking fer reasons to bust and fine. i also did some line clearance during my stay in Md. and i must say the hooking is against the law but company i worked for would encourage u to hook the trees so they would get there mileage finished on time. hooking trees was only a problem if you were doing trees that u weren't supposed ta or the ho called and complained and people other than the ones employed by the company went out to look. i can remember the company i worked for getting fined $30,000 for every tree that got chopped! there was over 50 white pines. i was the one the boss sent to fix the prob. turns out he was mad about stubs and rips, but because he called bg&E and not the company who did the work the boss got nailed fer 50+ trees and a brand new fence.

 

[Rftreeman]

i can remember the company i worked for getting fined $30,000 for every tree that got chopped! there was over 50 white pines. i was the one the boss sent to fix the prob. turns out he was mad about stubs and rips, but because he called bg&E and not the company who did the work the boss got nailed fer 50+ trees and a brand new fence.

ouch...........that can knock out the profits real fast, I'm sure someone got reamed real good after that one, I remember once the company I worked for got sued over some dog wood and red bud trees, they had to pay $5000 a tree for cutting them down without permission, ended up being only $35,000 and I thought that was bad and then I was arrested once for "trespassing" can you beleive that? all charges were drop and squashed because I was working for the company and had rights to be there.

 

[Dadatwins]

I believe they are misusing the ISA Certified Arborist decal in their advertisement.

It is correct in the company website but not correct on the multiple listing ad. To use the decal you have to identify the certified arborist, and have the ISA number. There are size and placement restrictions also. The ISA is very strict about their logo. opcorn:

 

[clearance]

The ISA is very strict about their logo

But not about what people flying thier flag do, or more like it, have done for them 'cause they can't do it themselves.
What a bunch of crap on this thread, in the home of the free no less, sheesh. WTF is coming next? The grass height of your lawn?

 

[Dadatwins]

But not about what people flying thier flag do, or more like it, have done for them 'cause they can't do it themselves.
What a bunch of crap on this thread, in the home of the free no less, sheesh. WTF is coming next? The grass height of your lawn?

I figured you would jump in at the chance to bash the ISA again, but you are allowed your opinion like the rest of us. And where I live I do have a height restriction on my lawn.

 

[clearance]

I figured you would jump in at the chance to bash the ISA again, but you are allowed your opinion like the rest of us. And where I live I do have a height restriction on my lawn.

I let it go for awhile, it is after all page three now.
The ISA needs to clean up its act. Nothing I have ever said about the ISA or the acts and actions of those flying its flag has ever been untrue.

 

[B-Edwards]

I have also been way to busy to comment on this as I have been busy with all the hot chicks that came with my ISA certification . I have topped hundreds and possibly into the thousands of trees. Most were under a power line or for a view. The view trees after being topped several times are not worth even talking to the homeowner about because they are so damaged the only benefit I see to leaving them is the leaves they put out help the enviroment. I have talked the ho out of topping very nice trees that were never topped. It is tough trying to talk to some of these people as they have never heard "do not top", it's like selling snake oil. There are trees that I would refuse to top ( grand White Oaks that had never been topped or the like) but for the most part if that's what they wanted i would do it. I hear people say I would walk away and not do it, guess you ain't hungry enough (yet). There are many more hacks around here than people trying to be pros, most around here are ashamed to try and act professional. So finding someone to do it is not a problem. I didn't advertise to do topping , I advertised to do pruning and apparently that covers topping because I never had a customer act like there was a difference. I know topping is bad and most of you do also but as long as the customer wants his tree topped whatever the reason there will be someone doing it. I know we left many trees standing along the power lines that should have been cut, that was usually the property owners fault. Its like a Dentist telling you to not use tobacco or consume alot of sugar, he knows what the result will be.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

when i worked in md. u hade 2 have a permit to remove and a lic to prune. hooking trees was a major fine.

Dude knock off the IM gibberish, it looks so childish

 

[pdqdl]

Dude knock off the IM gibberish, it looks so childish

Hmmm... "IM gibberish" That wouldn't be some sort of abbreviation to save time typing would it?

Sounds like the pot doesn't like the color of the kettle.

:biggrinbounce2:

I'm sust agitating, 'cause it seemed like a fun thing to do.

 

[ropensaddle]

I think it's more like a dentist finding work in your mouth when there isn't any legitimate work.......but he wants the income!

Tree co so your saying we don't need power? Btw I don't top unless
it has crown dieback and the customer want to try to salvage it.
The cause of the dieback must be remedied but no matter how
you look at it it is topping! I top on pollards which is topping just
a better method of it. Crown reductions same applies but for power
f that it is pure topping if they won't let you remove. Why you may
ask; because I want to kill that sob, it is a nuisance that needs to
come out and a better specimen put back. In my opinion there are
arborists = good, peta member arborists that feel trees are more valuable
than human lives=bad and hacks, I am still struggling to see where I fit!

 

[Bigus Termitius]

Struggle not, ropen....thou knowest.


It's a long forgotten art...it is called.....


Commonai Sensus.

Hard to cipher with all the socialist propaganda bears running around doing the Chicken Little.

 

[Bigus Termitius]

I figured you would jump in at the chance to bash the ISA again, but you are allowed your opinion like the rest of us. And where I live I do have a height restriction on my lawn.

Something desperately needs to be done about these so called "height restrictions."

All they are doing is limiting the grass from battling their fair share of the much feared nemesis...global warming.

All in the name of aesthetics....how selfish.

We are in a state of emergency people!!

Cut your hair if you must, but take a stand and grow your lawns out!!!

The planet and the future of all mankind depend on you!

Still not convinced? Perhaps we can make it lucrative enough for you to buy into.

Al...get these clowns some credits!