Mastermind Meets The Stihl 088

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This one will be happiest with an 8pin 404 or a 9 pin 3/8.

mine i run 404. 8 pin w/ the 42 , 7 w/ the 60. just easier on the saw stepping down with the 60. would like it to pull the longer bar with out working it so hard with some more chain speed.
 
mine i run 404. 8 pin w/ the 42 , 7 w/ the 60. just easier on the saw stepping down with the 60. would like it to pull the longer bar with out working it so hard with some more chain speed.

I don't have enough time or the size of wood to really test these the way they need to be tested. I plan to use this one to noodle 36" blocks to test it. I'll make some video. Probably be a few days before we get to cut though.
 
Whats it cost to mod a 088 or 880? If there is a noticable difference i maybe interested.

hey there 2tree,
i dunno if you have a stock 088/880 ??
but your more than welcome to come try out my masterminded 880, i'm only about 1/2 hour from you depending on what part of lancaster your in..
i don't have any huge blocks of wood to whittle on at the moment..


if ya take me up on my offer, please don't bring any of them "amish mafia" guys with you......
 
oh, i wanted to add something for the owner of this big boy...
once you get this animal home you should look at adding to the exhaust deflector, make it longer toward the front..
i noticed my brake handle got a little, shall i say, warm ?? from randy testing her out when he was done..
 
Cool build Randy nice work. Always looking foward to another one of you're builds. I like eating pie also!
 
oh, i wanted to add something for the owner of this big boy...
once you get this animal home you should look at adding to the exhaust deflector, make it longer toward the front..
i noticed my brake handle got a little, shall i say, warm ?? from randy testing her out when he was done..

I was thinking about that too Chuck. That factory deflector is smaller than the one on a 044. :dizzy:

I hesitate to add "extras" to someone's saw......especially if it's as nice as yours and this one.
 
It's running great randy. Never fails to start when I need it too. But man I need a different handle.... Rips my hand off...

So what would be Better elastostart or d handle? And how hard to change to 3/8 sprocket??
 
It's running great randy. Never fails to start when I need it too. But man I need a different handle.... Rips my hand off...

So what would be Better elastostart or d handle? And how hard to change to 3/8 sprocket??

The Stihl handle is like $5. And I don't get a death grip on it.

Like keeping your knee bent starting a Harley.

Plan for failure. LOL
 
It's running great randy. Never fails to start when I need it too. But man I need a different handle.... Rips my hand off...

So what would be Better elastostart or d handle? And how hard to change to 3/8 sprocket??

The sprocket is a breeze......just a C clip holds it on.....

I would get a D handle
 
I didn't write down the stock timing numbers n this one.......here's the finial numbers though.

Ex: 101°
Tr: 122°
In: 76°
Sq: .035
Comp: 190psi

No ignition advance. Josh's saw tore some tendons in my wrist.......I'm not doing that again. :(

That "sounds" like just 158 degrees exaust duration, maybe too little in a 120cc saw? :confused:
 
I was thinking about that too Chuck. That factory deflector is smaller than the one on a 044. :dizzy:

I hesitate to add "extras" to someone's saw......especially if it's as nice as yours and this one.

i know what your saying..
i did'nt even notice it till a month or so ago myself, but, a longer deflector is gonna be needed to eliminate a fire..
if ya catch my drift ??

no biggie.
 
That "sounds" like just 158 degrees exaust duration, maybe too little in a 120cc saw? :confused:

That will make a nice wide power band to pull long bars. It may cut cookies faster with more exhaust but wouldn't be as forgiving as a work saw.
 
158-162 are absolute perfect work saw numbers for the big saws. just becouse there bigger doesnt mean they port that much differently than there smaller brothers. i run 161ex in my 3120 work saws. what works , just works. sometimes as a sawbuilder we sometimes would really like to re inv ent the wheel when we are really better off just gettinn in and going for ther ride on the wheels thats done been proven to go round.
 
That will make a nice wide power band to pull long bars. It may cut cookies faster with more exhaust but wouldn't be as forgiving as a work saw.

What is wrong with a little more blow-down, I doubt the trade-off (blow-up) is doing that much damage?

162 sounds a lot better btw!
 
I can tell by looking at the spec sheet that that saw will have terrible sideways balance. It wont handle like a 120cc saw should.
 
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