McCulloch Chain Saws

[Maintenance supervisor]

Ok, I will pull the starter mechanism apart to figure out how it works and let you know. I see another Mac15 went on TM last night, lasted a few hours and then the H&S nazi's pulled it down....

What's H&S?

 

[rwoods]

Health & Safety I presume. I am hoping to hear more. Ron

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Yeah health and safety. They will not allow a saw to be sold on trade me with out a chain brake and it's a dam shame for us vintage people. Not even a mac 15.

 

[fossil]

H&S nazi

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

H&S nazi

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[Sean Littlefair]

What's H&S?

H&S is the same as COA (Cover own Arse) 'Health and Safety' its generally happens when the Grey Beards and dirty boots retire and the shiney bums in offices run things. Now they tell me I have to have a 'Diversity Hire' policy at work.... Im a pest controller and fur trapper. I just thought diversity meant working in different types of weather and terrain, apparently not. Oh well, Ill just keep pretending its the 1970's and carry one ;-)

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

Yeah health and safety. They will not allow a saw to be sold on trade me with out a chain brake and it's a dam shame for us vintage people. Not even a mac 15.

WTF!!! is that like a government agency?

 

[Kevin hayes]

WTF!!! is that like a government agency?

yeah that's dumb as hell...

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[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Na just trade Me policy they covering there bums

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

yeah that's dumb as hell...

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Well i see you also live in the Dixie land so maybe we're not exactly the best people to argue with safety? Especially since most deaths in the south are proceeded by " hold my beer" or "watch this ya'll "

 

[rwoods]

H&S nazi

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I have a chain brake that will fit that beast. But I am keeping it. I am told most were thrown in the trash. Ron

 

[Kevin hayes]

Well i see you also live in the Dixie land so maybe we're not exactly the best people to argue with safety? Especially since most deaths in the south are proceeded by " hold my beer" or "watch this ya'll "

that's right safety third in dixe land and usaully the beer is a celebration of i can't believe that didnt kill me

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[Little Jerrry]

Gents

Probably my last post here as the McCulloch 7-10 is basically finished and my time restoring saws and learning to powder coat is done for now as I switch back to my main passion - Ford F-truck restoration.

Appreciate all the help you guys gave me and the patience to endure the same old questions you probably see year after year.

 

[Sean Littlefair]

Gents

Probably my last post here as the McCulloch 7-10 is basically finished and my time restoring saws and learning to powder coat is done for now as I switch back to my main passion - Ford F-truck restoration.

Appreciate all the help you guys gave me and the patience to endure the same old questions you probably see year after year.

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Great looking saws. Do you have any tips and tricks or links for powder coating?, Ive got a couple of old stihls that could do with a powder coat but dont know if I have the skills to do it. I look on youtube and get confused.

 

[Little Jerrry]

Great looking saws. Do you have any tips and tricks or links for powder coating?, Ive got a couple of old stihls that could do with a powder coat but dont know if I have the skills to do it. I look on youtube and get confused.

I restored the middle two saws, the top and bottom saws I just replaced parts but didn't do any powdercoat etc.

I'll share with you the little I do know but remember this is coming from the guy who put the McCulloch 7-10 decal on upside down - so use my advise with discretion.

Remember the Stihl parts are factory powder coated so from my experience a real laborious task to remove (so make sure your passionate about this), whereas the enamel on the McCulloch was a breeze.

Assuming you want to DIY this on the cheap, there are still costs to incur.

Before you even start some equipment you will need:
Dual voltage powder coat unit - Eastwood would be your friend here for USA guys
Oven - assuming chainsaw parts is about as big as you want to go, once again Eastwood sells one that is identical to mine that worked well
Sandblast cabinet (you could use sandpaper but I dont know how the adhesion would be)
Air compressor (s) (12cfm+ - I plumbed a 2.5hp and a 2hp together and I could hold basically hold the psi going through a small 3/8" air hose sized unit).
Shop vac
cyclone dust extractor

Go here for overall guidelines on how to prep / powder coat:
http://www.powdercoatguide.com/2014/12/prepping-for-powder-coating-step-by-step.html#.XbqbyVUzapq

Go here for powder (so many options - use the gallery for real world examples of what stuff looks like):
https://www.prismaticpowders.com/

My main tips:
- Most powders require 10 minutes at 400F. So put your parts in the oven for an hour before hand at 450F to get all the trapped moisture / oils etc out of the part so you dont get outgassing when you bake it.
- ditch the ground wire that comes with the powder coat gun and put in an earth stake and run your own ground 4mm2 etc to the parts (way better adhesion and flow etc)
- The cheap guns can get you a good finish but it can be a gamble sometimes with the second coat as if the powder doesn't want to stick due to bad ground / insulation / faraday effect, you cant make it stick. So be prepared to be frustrated when you cannot repeat the process and get the same result each time.
- I had issue with consistency with the clear coats, so I just did two colour coats. The high gloss colours (like the McCulloch yellow show up your flaws a lot more than say a satin colour - I couldn't get the yellow right until I changed my grounding half way through. Basically pick simple colours unless you like stripping powder coat.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Well today a parcel showed up. Bitter sweet really. I had found a pm700 wrecking on trade me had no spark he said was like new compression and yeah it's like new compression indeed when I rang him he said do ya want the oil pump and decompression valve yup I said well it's not a 700 but it is a 10-10S and a very very nice piston n cylinder still has cross hatching in the bore so kinda happy ish sorta lol. I always hoped to get an S but yeah can't complain it was only 65 bucks. Not blaming him eather it had 700 on the filter cover and a decompression valve so I spose an easy mistake for a non mac person. Now to combine a few bits for a frankensaw hehe.
Wish he had of gave it a blow down at least lol
thinking this old beast mite be a doner its spitting gas out the carb badly and I've got a 54cc already

 

[Sean Littlefair]

I restored the middle two saws, the top and bottom saws I just replaced parts but didn't do any powdercoat etc.

I'll share with you the little I do know but remember this is coming from the guy who put the McCulloch 7-10 decal on upside down - so use my advise with discretion.

Remember the Stihl parts are factory powder coated so from my experience a real laborious task to remove (so make sure your passionate about this), whereas the enamel on the McCulloch was a breeze.

Assuming you want to DIY this on the cheap, there are still costs to incur.

Before you even start some equipment you will need:
Dual voltage powder coat unit - Eastwood would be your friend here for USA guys
Oven - assuming chainsaw parts is about as big as you want to go, once again Eastwood sells one that is identical to mine that worked well
Sandblast cabinet (you could use sandpaper but I dont know how the adhesion would be)
Air compressor (s) (12cfm+ - I plumbed a 2.5hp and a 2hp together and I could hold basically hold the psi going through a small 3/8" air hose sized unit).
Shop vac
cyclone dust extractor

Go here for overall guidelines on how to prep / powder coat:
http://www.powdercoatguide.com/2014/12/prepping-for-powder-coating-step-by-step.html#.XbqbyVUzapq

Go here for powder (so many options - use the gallery for real world examples of what stuff looks like):
https://www.prismaticpowders.com/

My main tips:
- Most powders require 10 minutes at 400F. So put your parts in the oven for an hour before hand at 450F to get all the trapped moisture / oils etc out of the part so you dont get outgassing when you bake it.
- ditch the ground wire that comes with the powder coat gun and put in an earth stake and run your own ground 4mm2 etc to the parts (way better adhesion and flow etc)
- The cheap guns can get you a good finish but it can be a gamble sometimes with the second coat as if the powder doesn't want to stick due to bad ground / insulation / faraday effect, you cant make it stick. So be prepared to be frustrated when you cannot repeat the process and get the same result each time.
- I had issue with consistency with the clear coats, so I just did two colour coats. The high gloss colours (like the McCulloch yellow show up your flaws a lot more than say a satin colour - I couldn't get the yellow right until I changed my grounding half way through. Basically pick simple colours unless you like stripping powder coat.

Thank you for the

I restored the middle two saws, the top and bottom saws I just replaced parts but didn't do any powdercoat etc.

I'll share with you the little I do know but remember this is coming from the guy who put the McCulloch 7-10 decal on upside down - so use my advise with discretion.

Remember the Stihl parts are factory powder coated so from my experience a real laborious task to remove (so make sure your passionate about this), whereas the enamel on the McCulloch was a breeze.

Assuming you want to DIY this on the cheap, there are still costs to incur.

Before you even start some equipment you will need:
Dual voltage powder coat unit - Eastwood would be your friend here for USA guys
Oven - assuming chainsaw parts is about as big as you want to go, once again Eastwood sells one that is identical to mine that worked well
Sandblast cabinet (you could use sandpaper but I dont know how the adhesion would be)
Air compressor (s) (12cfm+ - I plumbed a 2.5hp and a 2hp together and I could hold basically hold the psi going through a small 3/8" air hose sized unit).
Shop vac
cyclone dust extractor

Go here for overall guidelines on how to prep / powder coat:
http://www.powdercoatguide.com/2014/12/prepping-for-powder-coating-step-by-step.html#.XbqbyVUzapq

Go here for powder (so many options - use the gallery for real world examples of what stuff looks like):
https://www.prismaticpowders.com/

My main tips:
- Most powders require 10 minutes at 400F. So put your parts in the oven for an hour before hand at 450F to get all the trapped moisture / oils etc out of the part so you dont get outgassing when you bake it.
- ditch the ground wire that comes with the powder coat gun and put in an earth stake and run your own ground 4mm2 etc to the parts (way better adhesion and flow etc)
- The cheap guns can get you a good finish but it can be a gamble sometimes with the second coat as if the powder doesn't want to stick due to bad ground / insulation / faraday effect, you cant make it stick. So be prepared to be frustrated when you cannot repeat the process and get the same result each time.
- I had issue with consistency with the clear coats, so I just did two colour coats. The high gloss colours (like the McCulloch yellow show up your flaws a lot more than say a satin colour - I couldn't get the yellow right until I changed my grounding half way through. Basically pick simple colours unless you like stripping powder coat.

Well today a parcel showed up. Bitter sweet really. I had found a pm700 wrecking on trade me had no spark he said was like new compression and yeah it's like new compression indeed when I rang him he said do ya want the oil pump and decompression valve yup I said well it's not a 700 but it is a 10-10S and a very very nice piston n cylinder still has cross hatching in the bore so kinda happy ish sorta lol. I always hoped to get an S but yeah can't complain it was only 65 bucks. Not blaming him eather it had 700 on the filter cover and a decompression valve so I spose an easy mistake for a non mac person. Now to combine a few bits for a frankensaw hehe.View attachment 769803
Wish he had of gave it a blow down at least lol
View attachment 769804 thinking this old beast mite be a doner its spitting gas out the carb badly and I've got a 54cc already
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I’ll swap you that pm 850 start shaft and if you’ve got a fly wheel dog and maybe a half decent bar and chain for that 710 or 700 I’ve got. Runs well, but just needs a fuel line, also, it has one of those single screw carbs (no high jet) I was going to change the carb to a two screw anyway and put the matching fuel line to suit (has large hose end on carbie) my email address is [email protected], with the 850 and the 1010s I’m golden. The 700 or 710 is yours

 

[Sean Littlefair]

I restored the middle two saws, the top and bottom saws I just replaced parts but didn't do any powdercoat etc.

I'll share with you the little I do know but remember this is coming from the guy who put the McCulloch 7-10 decal on upside down - so use my advise with discretion.

Remember the Stihl parts are factory powder coated so from my experience a real laborious task to remove (so make sure your passionate about this), whereas the enamel on the McCulloch was a breeze.

Assuming you want to DIY this on the cheap, there are still costs to incur.

Before you even start some equipment you will need:
Dual voltage powder coat unit - Eastwood would be your friend here for USA guys
Oven - assuming chainsaw parts is about as big as you want to go, once again Eastwood sells one that is identical to mine that worked well
Sandblast cabinet (you could use sandpaper but I dont know how the adhesion would be)
Air compressor (s) (12cfm+ - I plumbed a 2.5hp and a 2hp together and I could hold basically hold the psi going through a small 3/8" air hose sized unit).
Shop vac
cyclone dust extractor

Go here for overall guidelines on how to prep / powder coat:
http://www.powdercoatguide.com/2014/12/prepping-for-powder-coating-step-by-step.html#.XbqbyVUzapq

Go here for powder (so many options - use the gallery for real world examples of what stuff looks like):
https://www.prismaticpowders.com/

My main tips:
- Most powders require 10 minutes at 400F. So put your parts in the oven for an hour before hand at 450F to get all the trapped moisture / oils etc out of the part so you dont get outgassing when you bake it.
- ditch the ground wire that comes with the powder coat gun and put in an earth stake and run your own ground 4mm2 etc to the parts (way better adhesion and flow etc)
- The cheap guns can get you a good finish but it can be a gamble sometimes with the second coat as if the powder doesn't want to stick due to bad ground / insulation / faraday effect, you cant make it stick. So be prepared to be frustrated when you cannot repeat the process and get the same result each time.
- I had issue with consistency with the clear coats, so I just did two colour coats. The high gloss colours (like the McCulloch yellow show up your flaws a lot more than say a satin colour - I couldn't get the yellow right until I changed my grounding half way through. Basically pick simple colours unless you like stripping powder coat.

Tanks for the info. I appreciate the effort in writing this.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Thank you for the



I’ll swap you that pm 850 start shaft and if you’ve got a fly wheel dog and maybe a half decent bar and chain for that 710 or 700 I’ve got. Runs well, but just needs a fuel line, also, it has one of those single screw carbs (no high jet) I was going to change the carb to a two screw anyway and put the matching fuel line to suit (has large hose end on carbie) my email address is [email protected], with the 850 and the 1010s I’m golden. The 700 or 710 is yours

Aww wow yup you have my interest definitely umm I only have 1 shaft that fits your saw but its inployed on my 800 however 1 way or another will sort a shaft out for it. I'll send ya an email now

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Sean im stuffed for the flywheel pawl although I could probably make 1 though