McCulloch Chain Saws

[Syncop8r]

Oh... I thought theses went for more.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Oh... I thought theses went for more.

Its a pretty average trade me price for a 10-10 a 10-10S usually fetches up to 200. Ive seen two 700s go for the 350 each range and they were dam neer new like really really nice last year. An 800 might fetch 300 to 500.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

My 850 went for 500 but he refused to ship at all so it wound up me n two others chasing it. If the guy would of shipped it would of gone sky high

 

[banshee1]

Would get more on ebay for it, especially if you can say it's running. Ladybug sells those for 75-100 all day long, and some of those look like they fell off the back of a truck on a muddy road. I might be interested... I don't need another project saw, but that never stopped me before. Pretty sure there are some other guys here thinking the same thing. I just rebuilt an SDC last night that is looking for a saw.

I'll try to do a quick cleaning job on it tomorrow and see what it would cost to ship. If it's not bad maybe I'll put it up in the for sale section.
Thanks.

 

[vinnywv]

I'll try to do a quick cleaning job on it tomorrow and see what it would cost to ship. If it's not bad maybe I'll put it up in the for sale section.
Thanks.

Shipping should be near 40 dollars. Depending on how you pack it up. Larger the box the more pricey. The further away the more too. The last one i sold was a 700. with a 20inch bar. Fuel out, bar off and under the saw, lightweight packaging. From wv to michigan was 40 bucks. Of course further away will be more. A pm700 and 10-10 are very similiar. That may help you price the shipping.
On ebay i put a low shipping and .99 start price and hope for the best. Its been good so far. That 700 i mentioned got a bidding battle and sold very well. But it started at .99. So i couldve sold it for 10.00 if thats all the bidding i got.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Shipping should be near 40 dollars. Depending on how you pack it up. Larger the box the more pricey. The further away the more too. The last one i sold was a 700. with a 20inch bar. Fuel out, bar off and under the saw, lightweight packaging. From wv to michigan was 40 bucks. Of course further away will be more. A pm700 and 10-10 are very similiar. That may help you price the shipping.
On ebay i put a low shipping and .99 start price and hope for the best. Its been good so far. That 700 i mentioned got a bidding battle and sold very well. But it started at .99. So i couldve sold it for 10.00 if thats all the bidding i got.

Have you still got a 700? I remember you scored a really nice 1 a while back. I couldn't part with a 700 but they are harder to find down here and you have a lifetime supply of yellow beasts stashed already haha so fair enough

 

[vinnywv]

Yes i still have 1 pm700. The first one i got. The one i sold there i bought off ebay, made an offer to the guy that he accepted cause it had been on ther for several weeks at a fixed price. cleaned it and got it going then 2 weeks later resold it for a nice return. People like to bid. Ive done that 3 times with a pm700. 2 i did very well on and 1 i did fine on. Its funny watching ebay, a fixed price saw will sit there for a long time usually. The ones that are a bid tend to go pretty high....people like to bid.

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

Don't worry Jethro I can't part with any of my 700s even if they are a little more common in the states, some day I hope to pass them down to family or friends.

Most of my saws are rescues from the scrap pile or shut down repair shops so the value was almost 0.00 I suppose I could turn a pretty good profit if I put any of these on ebay, because Vinny is absolutely right about people "love" to bid on stuff! or just pay more for convenience.
A couple of months ago I got a husky 77 for 8$ and I needed a air filter cover for it , ebay was about 25-30$ for one , so I called around to some saw guys in my area and ended up findind another saw in the scrap yard (15$ 60cc poulan)to trade for another whole L65 which turned out to have a 77 top end on it . Consequently I then had 2 vintage chainsaws and 1 air filter cover..... see how this works?
Any way a member on here sold me a decent cover for 12$ which was an honest price.
Foot work and communication is part of the hobby for me ,because I enjoy talking to other chainsaw obsessed people.
And thank God for guys like JoeyMT because when I was looking for an 800 pro mac all kinds of slimy M.Fer.s came out of the woodwork but Joey really stepped up and helped me out.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Yes i still have 1 pm700. The first one i got. The one i sold there i bought off ebay, made an offer to the guy that he accepted cause it had been on ther for several weeks at a fixed price. cleaned it and got it going then 2 weeks later resold it for a nice return. People like to bid. Ive done that 3 times with a pm700. 2 i did very well on and 1 i did fine on. Its funny watching ebay, a fixed price saw will sit there for a long time usually. The ones that are a bid tend to go pretty high....people like to bid.

Nice one and yeah is a funny thing auctions there sort of a strange excitement. And when ya win something its a huge relief or guilt hahaha

Don't worry Jethro I can't part with any of my 700s even if they are a little more common in the states, some day I hope to pass them down to family or friends.

Most of my saws are rescues from the scrap pile or shut down repair shops so the value was almost 0.00 I suppose I could turn a pretty good profit if I put any of these on ebay, because Vinny is absolutely right about people "love" to bid on stuff! or just pay more for convenience.
A couple of months ago I got a husky 77 for 8$ and I needed a air filter cover for it , ebay was about 25-30$ for one , so I called around to some saw guys in my area and ended up findind another saw in the scrap yard (15$ 60cc poulan)to trade for another whole L65 which turned out to have a 77 top end on it . Consequently I then had 2 vintage chainsaws and 1 air filter cover..... see how this works?
Any way a member on here sold me a decent cover for 12$ which was an honest price.
Foot work and communication is part of the hobby for me ,because I enjoy talking to other chainsaw obsessed people.
And thank God for guys like JoeyMT because when I was looking for an 800 pro mac all kinds of slimy M.Fer.s came out of the woodwork but Joey really stepped up and helped me out.

There a good saw and really impressed you still work with 1 daily. You must be 1 of the last on the planet nearly. Lots of us hobby folk cut a heap with them but not earning a living though

Really stoked it was a Joey 800. Have you found a muffler duct yet? Do you think you might run it on the job much?

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

Nice one and yeah is a funny thing auctions there sort of a strange excitement. And when ya win something its a huge relief or guilt hahaha



There a good saw and really impressed you still work with 1 daily. You must be 1 of the last on the planet nearly. Lots of us hobby folk cut a heap with them but not earning a living though

Really stoked it was a Joey 800. Have you found a muffler duct yet? Do you think you might run it on the job much?

Well earning a living is subjective, I cover all parts of maintenance which includes trees but also tractors,buildings,sewage, and electricity. If I could cut with my saws every day that would be AWESOME! But some days are literally sh#t pumps and plumbing.
I will be including the 800 in my line up this year and will let everyone know how it works (with pictures when I can).
Joeymt33 sure did do me a soild, the saw is in very good shape for the age of it and he was helpful with questions about repairs.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Well earning a living is subjective, I cover all parts of maintenance which includes trees but also tractors,buildings,sewage, and electricity. If I could cut with my saws every day that would be AWESOME! But some days are literally sh#t pumps and plumbing.
I will be including the 800 in my line up this year and will let everyone know how it works (with pictures when I can).
Joeymt33 sure did do me a soild, the saw is in very good shape for the age of it and he was helpful with questions about repairs.

Yeah true sounds like you have a pretty cool job full of allsorts

The 800 with a 24 is a real boss of a saw if you can get away with it

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

Yeah true sounds like you have a pretty cool job full of allsorts

The 800 with a 24 is a real boss of a saw if you can get away with it

Thats exactly what I have on it , but I made a loop of
.404 chisel for it , I figured it can handle .404 .
Ultimately I'd like to run it with a 5200 Poulan and an XL925 beside it to get a good comparison of the 5 cube saws of those years.

 

[vinnywv]

Omg,,the 2020 hallmark christmas ornaments preview pamphlet came in the mail yesterday. I browsed thru and saw a 600 series mcculloch chainsaw. Its a must have!!!!

 

[ThistleIA]

Thats exactly what I have on it , but I made a loop of
.404 chisel for it , I figured it can handle .404 .
Ultimately I'd like to run it with a 5200 Poulan and an XL925 beside it to get a good comparison of the 5 cube saws of those years.

Don't forget the Pioneer P51/52,same 82cc displacement,certainly no slouch.But not as easy to find compared to the Mac & Homie.In good tune they're on par with the 5200.

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

Yeah those pioneer saws are pretty rare this far south, someone just gave me a pretty ruff (cosmetic) 5200 and I could scare up a 925 pretty easy around here.
I also never thought an 800 series McCulloch would come my way either so who knows?
I find it pretty odd that the reed valve saws fell by the wayside as time marched on, seems to me that if you had today's technology and wanted a power house small saw that would be the way to go? I suppose rpms impressed more people than torque.

 

[rwoods]

CONTENT WARNING​

Those who wear white lab coats, NASA employees and any who want verifiable/repeatable results may find this post offensive – all others read at your leisure.

Yesterday, Brian and I took some MACs out to play – no falling, bucking or brush work, just play.

LINE-UP:


PROCEDURE: Saws with chains in place run at no load full throttle to record rpm. Saws are then put to the wood. Operator indicates when he thinks saw is in its sweet spot. Brian runs B saws while Ron records rpm and Ron runs R saws while Brian records rpm. Bars buried in 32” to 36” Red Oak except over 28” bars as extra wood didn’t seem to matter. Minimum of 30” of wood on long bars.

Legend to the results: B = Brian’s saw, R = Ron’s saw. SP = sprocket nose, HN = hard nose, RN = roller nose. Under 90cc classes are .375” pitch unless indicated .404”; 90cc class and 120cc class are .404”. McCulloch saw unless indicated as OB or CC. OB = Off-Brand, CC = China Com. All stock unless indicated as Modified. DSP = 82cc with DSP from factory. All 7 pin except as noted.

RESULTS:

Mid 50cc to Mid 60cc Class:

B – 1010S 20” SN – Maximum 11,200 Sweet Spot 8,540
B – 55 16” SN – Maximum 9,130 Sweet Spot 6,800
B – 1010 20” SN – Maximum 10,800 Sweet Spot 8,000
B – 262 OB 20” SN – Maximum 13,700 Sweet Spot 9,500
R – 036 Pro OB 20” SN – Maximum 11,700 Sweet Spot 7,820
R - 361 OB Modified 20” SN – Maximum 11,270 Sweet Spot 8,170
1/8 turn leaner – Maximum 12,100 Sweet Spot 9,200

70cc Class:

R - 700 20” SN – Maximum 10,900 Sweet Spot 6,500

80cc Class:

B – 800 28” .404” SN – Maximum 9,380 Sweet Spot 6,500
B – 805 24” SN DSP – Maximum 9,700 Sweet Spot 7,400
R – DE80 24” SN DSP – Maximum 10,590 Sweet Spot 8,700
R – 800 33” SN – Maximum 9,720 Sweet Spot 7,190
R – 800 24” SN – Maximum 9,230 Sweet Spot 7,800
R – 800 24” SN DSP – Maximum 10,500 Sweet Spot 7,600 (8 pin)
R – 800 Modified 25” SN .404” – Maximum 10,200 Sweet Spot 8,025
R – 805 28” SP DSP – Maximum 8,270 Sweet Spot 6,400
R – CS8000 OB 24” SN – Maximum 11,050 Sweet Spot 7,300
1/4 turn leaner – Maximum 11,920 Sweet Spot 8,060

90cc Class:

B – 660 CC 36” SN – Maximum 12,100 Sweet Spot 8,000

120cc Class:

B – 125C 36” SN Adjustable jet – Maximum 8,300 Sweet Spot 7,350
R – 125C 33” SN Adjustable jet – Maximum 8,040 Sweet Spot 7,400 (8 pin)
1/8 turn leaner – Maximum 8,320 Sweet Spot 7,400
1/4 turn leaner – Maximum 9,730 Sweet Spot 8,400
R – 125C 36” SN Fixed jet GEM kart muffler – Maximum 10,050 Sweet Spot 9,490
R – 125C 42” HN Fixed jet – Maximum 8,400 Sweet Spot 7,670
R – 125C 54” RN Fixed jet – Maximum 10,000 Sweet Spot 8,640

Unscientific Take Aways:

Higher speed doesn’t translate into faster cutting as feed rate varies. 125s were leaned on hard. 90+cc CC and 82cc MACs were leaned on. CS8000 took a delicate touch, close to pulling up – seemed it had more chain than the saw wanted (new chain and off the same roll as R’s smaller OBs and 700 were running – also new - Go Figure). Small OB saws needed much more finesse than small MACs.

1010S is a strong running saw.

All saws initially tuned for winter (i.e. 40+ degrees F. cooler). Those re-tuned gained 800 to 1700 in maximum rpm and 750 to 1000 rpm in their sweet spot.

Bar length doesn’t matter much on a 125C. Nor does a hard nose.

125C are the easiest saws to start.

With the right jet, a fixed jet 125C is no slouch.

Don't let a "governed" DE80 fool you.

MACs will run even after sitting for years. The longest bar 125C had 9 year old gas in it from its last run; dumped most of it and used fresh mix. Several of the other MACs had not been run in two years or more. Some had old gas; others had evaporated dry. Even while burning copious amounts of bar oil, a 82cc MAC just keeps going.

I have too many 82cc MACs. Same for the 125C.

Have a safe and HAPPY 4th!

Ron

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

CONTENT WARNING​

Those who wear white lab coats, NASA employees and any who want verifiable/repeatable results may find this post offensive – all others read at your leisure.

Yesterday, Brian and I took some MACs out to play – no falling, bucking or brush work, just play.

LINE-UP:
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PROCEDURE: Saws with chains in place run at no load full throttle to record rpm. Saws are then put to the wood. Operator indicates when he thinks saw is in its sweet spot. Brian runs B saws while Ron records rpm and Ron runs R saws while Brian records rpm. Bars buried in 32” to 36” Red Oak except over 28” bars as extra wood didn’t seem to matter. Minimum of 30” of wood on long bars.

Legend to the results: B = Brian’s saw, R = Ron’s saw. SP = sprocket nose, HN = hard nose, RN = roller nose. Under 90cc classes are .375” pitch unless indicated .404”; 90cc class and 120cc class are .404”. McCulloch saw unless indicated as OB or CC. OB = Off-Brand, CC = China Com. All stock unless indicated as Modified. DSP = 82cc with DSP from factory. All 7 pin except as noted.

RESULTS:

Mid 50cc to Mid 60cc Class:

B – 1010S 20” SN – Maximum 11,200 Sweet Spot 8,540
B – 55 16” SN – Maximum 9,130 Sweet Spot 6,800
B – 1010 20” SN – Maximum 10,800 Sweet Spot 8,000
B – 262 OB 20” SN – Maximum 13,700 Sweet Spot 9,500
R – 036 Pro OB 20” SN – Maximum 11,700 Sweet Spot 7,820
R - 361 OB Modified 20” SN – Maximum 11,270 Sweet Spot 8,170
1/8 turn leaner – Maximum 12,100 Sweet Spot 9,200

70cc Class:

R - 700 20” SN – Maximum 10,900 Sweet Spot 6,500

80cc Class:

B – 800 28” .404” SN – Maximum 9,380 Sweet Spot 6,500
B – 805 24” SN DSP – Maximum 9,700 Sweet Spot 7,400
R – DE80 24” SN DSP – Maximum 10,590 Sweet Spot 8,700
R – 800 33” SN – Maximum 9,720 Sweet Spot 7,190
R – 800 24” SN – Maximum 9,230 Sweet Spot 7,800
R – 800 24” SN DSP – Maximum 10,500 Sweet Spot 7,600 (8 pin)
R – 800 Modified 25” SN .404” – Maximum 10,200 Sweet Spot 8,025
R – 805 28” SP DSP – Maximum 8,270 Sweet Spot 6,400
R – CS8000 OB 24” SN – Maximum 11,050 Sweet Spot 7,300
1/4 turn leaner – Maximum 11,920 Sweet Spot 8,060

90cc Class:

B – 660 CC 36” SN – Maximum 12,100 Sweet Spot 8,000

120cc Class:

B – 125C 36” SN Adjustable jet – Maximum 8,300 Sweet Spot 7,350
R – 125C 33” SN Adjustable jet – Maximum 8,040 Sweet Spot 7,400 (8 pin)
1/8 turn leaner – Maximum 8,320 Sweet Spot 7,400
1/4 turn leaner – Maximum 9,730 Sweet Spot 8,400
R – 125C 36” SN Fixed jet GEM kart muffler – Maximum 10,050 Sweet Spot 9,490
R – 125C 42” HN Fixed jet – Maximum 8,400 Sweet Spot 7,670
R – 125C 54” RN Fixed jet – Maximum 10,000 Sweet Spot 8,640

Unscientific Take Aways:

Higher speed doesn’t translate into faster cutting as feed rate varies. 125s were leaned on hard. 90+cc CC and 82cc MACs were leaned on. CS8000 took a delicate touch, close to pulling up – seemed it had more chain than the saw wanted (new chain and off the same roll as R’s smaller OBs and 700 were running – also new - Go Figure). Small OB saws needed much more finesse than small MACs.

1010S is a strong running saw.

All saws initially tuned for winter (i.e. 40+ degrees F. cooler). Those re-tuned gained 800 to 1700 in maximum rpm and 750 to 1000 rpm in their sweet spot.

Bar length doesn’t matter much on a 125C. Nor does a hard nose.

125C are the easiest saws to start.

With the right jet, a fixed jet 125C is no slouch.

Don't let a "governed" DE80 fool you.

MACs will run even after sitting for years. The longest bar 125C had 9 year old gas in it from its last run; dumped most of it and used fresh mix. Several of the other MACs had not been run in two years or more. Some had old gas; others had evaporated dry. Even while burning copious amounts of bar oil, a 82cc MAC just keeps going.

I have too many 82cc MACs. Same for the 125C.

Have a safe and HAPPY 4th!

Ron

That's a great read Ron cheers for doing that.

Really interesting.

Is that 55 a pm55? Interested why that was quite a low rpm compared to the S is it a fixed jet?

Is the Modified 800 the ducted exhaust one?

The 10-10S loves to rev yet doesn’t fall off the power at the bottom its got a lovely fat power band. Still my favorite most used saw

Vinny what scale is that little guy? I'd like a 1/10 scale mac for my rc truck

 

[vinnywv]

Ron, that is great information!
Those 125 dont lose out much only dropping a few hundred rpms. Agreed that ob saws rev like mad but really drop off in rpm. Old saws hang on way better.

Jethro, im not sure yet. Its just a picture now. Likely wont see it in stores for a couple more months. Id say 4 to 5 inch tall.

 

[Jethro 2t sniffer]

Ron, that is great information!
Those 125 dont lose out much only dropping a few hundred rpms. Agreed that ob saws rev like mad but really drop off in rpm. Old saws hang on way better.

Jethro, im not sure yet. Its just a picture now. Likely wont see it in stores for a couple more months. Id say 4 to 5 inch tall.

Bugger we bit small but very cool all the same and actually have another smaller truck it may fit.

Ron will like this. Can even get them in blue and the other body

2 speed box and will have a working winch too and lights all from the remote and engine noise for the boy those axles are alloy and brass gears full ball bearings all for about 220nz posted. Its even real wood on the deck and is lovely to build. Not running yet but will get 45 min or an hour per battery pack depending on what I stuff under the hood.

 

[rwoods]

Love the FJ45. Have always wanted one - diesel, of course.

Brian will have to respond regarding the PM55.

The 125 tests are the most precise as they are so steady. The others could easily be 200 - 300 rpm off as it was common for them to surge and drop; we just did our best to estimate. Also some of my readings of Brian’s saws could be lower than actual rpm as he had a tendency to let off immediately after signaling he was at the sweet spot.


We were surprised by the DE80. Also surprising was my higher reving 125 (36” bar). I believe the compression is only 135 psi as opposed to the one I use the most (33” bar) which I believe is 165#.

Ron