MONSTER TREE's removal photos

[Koa Man]

Is the job completed? I would like to see the area after the tree is removed.

 

[Ryan Gossen]

why dont you reach out to the dude and see if you can help him out uh cause its nice to have freinds in this biz

Now there's a good idea Treeminator/innovator. And having read your other posts, I think its possible that you could use the karma. Dont get me wrong; I apreciate this post, and Id be lying if I said it didnt give me some satisfaction to see underbidders getting thier just deserts. But if you are going through all the trouble to make a photo documentary and post it online, would it be so much harder to give the guy a few pointers?

Then again, there is a good chance he will blow you off, or maybe he dosnt speak English. Still, maybe you are in a possition to improve the industry in your area. Anyway, all Im saying is consider where you are directing your energies. But thanks for the interesting post.

 

[1CallLandscape]

Now there's a good idea Treeminator/innovator. And having read your other posts, I think its possible that you could use the karma. Dont get me wrong; I apreciate this post, and Id be lying if I said it didnt give me some satisfaction to see underbidders getting thier just deserts. But if you are going through all the trouble to make a photo documentary and post it online, would it be so much harder to give the guy a few pointers?

Then again, there is a good chance he will blow you off, or maybe he dosnt speak English. Still, maybe you are in a possition to improve the industry in your area. Anyway, all Im saying is consider where you are directing your energies. But thanks for the interesting post.

I agree, friends are always good to have and alot better than enemies. if i saw some guy driving buy a job of mine taking pictures every day without talking to me i might be wondering wht he is doing. Also as others have pointed out that the company could have been a newer one in the business and bid low to get the work and his name out there, unfortunately the job was alot more intensive than expected. We ALL have been there at some time. now, like my self , we can pick and choose our jobs so we dont have to underbid. why wouldnt you go and lend some friendly advice to the poor guy . maybe he has a skill or pointer to offer you in return???

-mike

 

[Treeinnovator]

I agree, friends are always good to have and alot better than enemies. if i saw some guy driving buy a job of mine taking pictures every day without talking to me i might be wondering wht he is doing. Also as others have pointed out that the company could have been a newer one in the business and bid low to get the work and his name out there, unfortunately the job was alot more intensive than expected. We ALL have been there at some time. now, like my self , we can pick and choose our jobs so we dont have to underbid. why wouldnt you go and lend some friendly advice to the poor guy . maybe he has a skill or pointer to offer you in return???

-mike

i do give out my advice... then i get flamed and banned. yeah i suppose i could show him how to successfully displace the weight of the trunk with mulch bags....etc.

chance are though, he'd react the same way you all do.

 

[Treeman67]

this is interesting threads, when i see those photos, it alike no way my company can to do it alone weather it $3700 to $12,000.I humble myself as treeman, i would have sub-out major operation of removal and clean-up at least 2 contractors which is top excavators company and 2 more tree service company depend on size their companies,also it make take more than just a 2 1/2 day of completion. i was wonder if this is insurance will be billed or property owner had to paid full bill.To rest my case , i don't care if i get this job if this bid high, i rather walk way than put up major headache of unforeseeable situations..
treeman67

 

[Jim1NZ]

It is great to have friends in the same area of business but nonprofessionals who can under bid on a job by more than 50% need some advice alright, get some industry training or allot more experience before pricing jobs or starting a business.

People that drag the industry down by doing what this contractor has done will not be friends to many.

I realize this i would have been an extremely hard job to put a price on, maby it would have been one to leave to one with more experience.

I agree with Ekka and Treeinnovater on this 1. Unprofessional tree men like this WONT last long in the industry they will literally sell them self out of business and out of the industry.

I think this contractor could do with more than a bit of advice, especially with the most difficult and expensive part of the job still come.

 

[Ekka]

Judge them on the final result rather than keep popping back taking the piss because you didn't gt the work..

He's not popping back taking the piss coz he didn't get the work.

He's keeping us informed and observing what idiots do in this business .... a scientific study of human moronic behaviour.

Indeed, "taking the piss", how down right assumptive and instigating. By the way, are you a low baller or work for some?

 

[a_lopa]

i suppose i could show him how to successfully displace the weight of the trunk with mulch bags....etc.

please tell.

 

[vharrison2]

why did they stop there? keep cutting it off the house

That is all you get for $ 3,700.00:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[TheGrasshopper]

First post for me here. With that I will give a disclaimer: I am quite new to tree work, and I am an employee, rather than an employer at this point in my tree career.
With that said, I think this thread is good, because it shows what happens when a person/company low balls the competition to get the work, and gets theirs. We live in a wal-mart society where most people are ill-informed, and will almost always take the option with the lowest bottom line. In a service industry like tree work, the two bit hacks that do poor work and charge little do a community service for both the tree work community, and the community surrounding the homeowner; sometimes misfortune is the best teacher of all. So I definitely give my props to the creator of this thread for broadcasting this learning experience to a greater audience than the immediate surrounding area of this particular job. Nice work

 

[Treeinnovator]

So I definitely give my props to the creator of this thread for broadcasting this learning experience to a greater audience than the immediate surrounding area of this particular job. Nice work

listen up everyone, this might possibly be the smartest guy on the AS message board.

 

[Koa Man]

,also it make take more than just a 2 1/2 day of completion.
treeman67

2.5 days tops if you have a big ex with a grab. Most of the limbs in that photo could be just grabbed and broken off with the ex. No need to climb and use a saw. I saw a banyan at least that big being removed several years ago by a tree company with a bucket truck and a big ex. By the end of 2 days the tree was gone, including the roots and backfilled with dirt. The ex was pulling apart the trunk like nobody's business. Benjamina banyan trunks are made up of a lot of small trunks and when you start cutting into it or ripping it with heavy equipment, they usually start to come apart in sections.

 

[a_lopa]

i suppose i could show him how to successfully displace the weight of the trunk with mulch bags....etc.

please tell.

stihl wait inovator.

 

[a_lopa]

I do a few excavator jobs this one is no more than a day.

i would have bid around 3,800-4,800 depending on float costs and made 2k for organising it

 

[Treeinnovator]

here's the final result... with new pics.
i e-mailed the owner this week and asked them how everything went with their removal. here was her response:

Hi *****…the tree removal went well. It took them 5 days. The trunk was the hardest part. They just kept cutting away at it until it was down almost to the ground and then they used a stump grinder to take it down all the way. I then had a pile of mulch about 10 inches deep so we had to hire a guy with a little bobcat to level the ground. Part of the trunk was actually growing into the roof. The roofer tied a rope to it and pulled it out with his truck. The roof is done and the city has lifted the “unsafe structure” violation. All is going slow but well. I attached a before and some after picture that you can share with your tree buddies.

appearently they never used a crane or any large equipment. so what do you all think?.... was it worth the $3,500 that they bid ???

(new photos attached)

 

[Ekka]

Here's the 3 pics resized and a lot smaller files to download for dial uppers to have a gander.

 

[Ekka]

I think pics 2 and 3 show the enormity of the task of cutting through that aerial root system.

Layers of roots impregnated with dirt, a did a close up for you. That would have been a chain destroyer.

I cant see how they made money on that job.

 

[nitwit dolt]

I guess?

I guess my screen name says it all, but I don't see any thing being done in the pics.:jester:

 

[Groundie30]

Yeah, those dirt filled roots look like alot of chain sharpening. Its cool when other trees grow out of those dirt pockets.. Glad I didn't go.

P.S. Thanks for re-sizing those pics.