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im using staight 30 all year round ..on a 25 hp kohla command engine....
synthetic
Synthetic may be great stuff, don't know, don't use it.
My question, with these extended change intervals, do they stand behiind you if there is an oil related failure?
I still like to see the oil get changed at 3 to 5000 on a vehicle. There are a lot of acids and other bad things that oil is supposed to keep suspended, but how else are these things going to get out of the motor unless you change the oil and filter?
Synthetic may be great stuff, don't know, don't use it.
My question, with these extended change intervals, do they stand behiind you if there is an oil related failure?
I still like to see the oil get changed at 3 to 5000 on a vehicle. There are a lot of acids and other bad things that oil is supposed to keep suspended, but how else are these things going to get out of the motor unless you change the oil and filter?
Amsoil stands behind there product and those who use it. They do warranty an oil failure, If it was caused by the oil.
I know I was really worried at first about the 2 stroke oil I use in my modded saws. Everybody said 32:1. So I mixed it up 32:1. Dan Henry told me when he opened my saws up, there was plenty of oil
I also spoke to one of the amsoil engineers about the rpms these saws turn and the mixtures.
I am currently running the Amsoil Dominator 2 stroke oil at 40:1 and have plenty of lubricity.
They have a pro rider(Moto cross) and he runs the oil 40:1. His motor turns more rpm and is alot higher compression than any of my saws
Hunter
I know I was really worried at first about the 2 stroke oil I use in my modded saws. Everybody said 32:1. So I mixed it up 32:1. Dan Henry told me when he opened my saws up, there was plenty of oil
I also spoke to one of the amsoil engineers about the rpms these saws turn and the mixtures.
I am currently running the Amsoil Dominator 2 stroke oil at 40:1 and have plenty of lubricity.
They have a pro rider(Moto cross) and he runs the oil 40:1. His motor turns more rpm and is alot higher compression than any of my saws
Hunter
Dominator aka formula 2000 is garbage. I have seen several motors ran on it that looked terrible. I just did a season long test on a snowmobile using amsoil new injector oil and it was medicore at best, but still light years ahead of dominator.
BTW amsoil tech is a bunch of morons. They recently rewrote their usage charts based inpart because of the hell I gave them for having inaccurate info. At one time they where claiming that AIO(boat oil) was OK for aircooled applications.
QUOTE]They have a pro rider(Moto cross) and he runs the oil 40:1. His motor turns more rpm and is alot higher compression than any of my saws[/QUOTE]
The only teams that run amsoil are the ones they sponsor and even them I would not be supprised if the used the best available product which isnt dominator. bTWIf you believe a bike turns more rpms than a saw your nuts. I 250 doesnt even come close to the 13,500 rpm my 7900 turns.
BTW would you rather buy a lube from the horses mouth that makes it or from some back yard blender like Amsoil?
BTW amsoil tech is a bunch of morons. They recently rewrote their usage charts based inpart because of the hell I gave them for having inaccurate info. At one time they where claiming that AIO(boat oil) was OK for aircooled applications.
QUOTE]They have a pro rider(Moto cross) and he runs the oil 40:1. His motor turns more rpm and is alot higher compression than any of my saws[/QUOTE]
The only teams that run amsoil are the ones they sponsor and even them I would not be supprised if the used the best available product which isnt dominator. bTWIf you believe a bike turns more rpms than a saw your nuts. I 250 doesnt even come close to the 13,500 rpm my 7900 turns.
BTW would you rather buy a lube from the horses mouth that makes it or from some back yard blender like Amsoil?
dtw902
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I run Amsoil in everything I own. My work car has 296000 miles on it. It is a 1998 jetta TDI (Diesel). Still get 44 mpg, and no abnormal oil use. I change the oil every 25000 and the filter every 12000.
Dave
Dave
25,000 mile drain?
Quote from adifferant site.
"The 25K mile change is widely regarded as a myth. Amsoil tells you to change twice per year or 25,000 miles with six month filter changes. My used oil analysis for regualr ATM 10W-30 was ugly just after six months and 6,000 miles. I can't imagine what it would look like after one year."
Quote from adifferant site.
"The 25K mile change is widely regarded as a myth. Amsoil tells you to change twice per year or 25,000 miles with six month filter changes. My used oil analysis for regualr ATM 10W-30 was ugly just after six months and 6,000 miles. I can't imagine what it would look like after one year."
dtw902
ArboristSite Operative
You need to use good filters most of the dirt enters your engine through your air filter. If you use cheap filters then you better change your oil more often. Don't use cheap filters.
Dave
Dave
Bwalker,
I am sorry I am not a Motor guru. I just have had good luck with some of the Amsoil products and i like some of there stuff. Its not for everybody. We all have our own opinions. I respect the fact that you dont like Amsoil, I do.
As far as the motor cycle motors,
Mike Laracco's bike is cranking around 11,000+ rpm,
The 125's are cranking around 12000-13000 rpm,
The GP bike are cranking around 18,000-19,000 rpm.
As far as a stock 7900, they will crank around 9300 rpm in the cut.
Hunter
I am sorry I am not a Motor guru. I just have had good luck with some of the Amsoil products and i like some of there stuff. Its not for everybody. We all have our own opinions. I respect the fact that you dont like Amsoil, I do.
As far as the motor cycle motors,
Mike Laracco's bike is cranking around 11,000+ rpm,
The 125's are cranking around 12000-13000 rpm,
The GP bike are cranking around 18,000-19,000 rpm.
As far as a stock 7900, they will crank around 9300 rpm in the cut.
Hunter
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No way. I have tuned many 250 mx bikes and they peak around 9 grand or less. A highly modded 125 will only pull 11 grand, a stock 125 even less. Attached is a dyno chart to prove what I am saying.
No they do not. They buy their base oils from Exxon-Mobil and their additives from lubrazol. This is the reason that Amsoil is ten years behind mobil in synthetic oil technology. If you want I can got into detail?
Amsoil is a Multi Level Marketing company that blends oils. The do not MFG a single drop of oil.
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Here a chart for a cr 250 like LaRocco's.
Bwalker,
No Problem, Lets just agree to Disagree and leave it at that.
I am really not trying to get into a who knows what match with you. Its a waste of time.
I was just stating the fact that I liked some of the products Amsoil has.
Hunter
No Problem, Lets just agree to Disagree and leave it at that.
I am really not trying to get into a who knows what match with you. Its a waste of time.
I was just stating the fact that I liked some of the products Amsoil has.
Hunter
Hunter, no problem. Just dont post BS and pass it off as fact.
BTW would your liking Amsoil have anyhting to do with you selling it? I have never heard a Amsoil salesman admit that their product was nayhting other than the best on the market. I dont sell anyhting so i have no ax to grind.
BTW would your liking Amsoil have anyhting to do with you selling it? I have never heard a Amsoil salesman admit that their product was nayhting other than the best on the market. I dont sell anyhting so i have no ax to grind.
Ben,
You are always right and always will be. I am nobody and dont want to be.
As far as selling amsoil, Never sold a drop of it. Only reason I am a dealer is cause I use the product and it was the cheapest way for me to get the product. I never said they were the best. There are alot of great products out there,Amsoil just happens to be the one I have had great succes with. You can use and like whatever you want, its a free world.
Have a good night,
Hunter
You are always right and always will be. I am nobody and dont want to be.
As far as selling amsoil, Never sold a drop of it. Only reason I am a dealer is cause I use the product and it was the cheapest way for me to get the product. I never said they were the best. There are alot of great products out there,Amsoil just happens to be the one I have had great succes with. You can use and like whatever you want, its a free world.
Have a good night,
Hunter
LOL!!!!
You want some soap?
I am so closed minded.LOL
Just cause other AS members do not like somethin, doesnt mean it will not work for me or someone else, Its like saying FORD is better than Chevy or Stihl is beter than Husqvarna. Its just opinions, we all have them just like alot of other things.
I just stated the fact that the oil worked well for me in my application. You guys use what ever you want. Guess I should have told you that I used Regular Husqvarna 2 stroke oil for 10 years and switched to synthetics in my modded saws. Maybe that would make you all happier.:alien:
The question was " what oil do you use in your stump Grinder"
Again, I said, I use Amsoil, Sorry some people do not like it and some are the authority on it. I use it and have had good success with it.
Its not for everybody!
Ill say it again, since I am so closed minded. There are alot of good products out there, find the one that works for you.
LOL!
Lets go fishin! LOL
Hunter
You want some soap?
I am so closed minded.LOL
Just cause other AS members do not like somethin, doesnt mean it will not work for me or someone else, Its like saying FORD is better than Chevy or Stihl is beter than Husqvarna. Its just opinions, we all have them just like alot of other things.
I just stated the fact that the oil worked well for me in my application. You guys use what ever you want. Guess I should have told you that I used Regular Husqvarna 2 stroke oil for 10 years and switched to synthetics in my modded saws. Maybe that would make you all happier.:alien:
The question was " what oil do you use in your stump Grinder"
Again, I said, I use Amsoil, Sorry some people do not like it and some are the authority on it. I use it and have had good success with it.
Its not for everybody!
Ill say it again, since I am so closed minded. There are alot of good products out there, find the one that works for you.
LOL!
Lets go fishin! LOL
Hunter
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dtw902
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It is just the smart thing to do if your going to use Amsoil. Amsoil is not a backyard blender they have been in business since 1972, long before some here where born. (sounds fishy to become a dealer to buy amsoil). Then don't use your business acount to buy saw chain or shop around to get the best deal on your next saw just walk in and pay full retail. Its all about staying in business pinch penny's and do what you think is best for your business. Amsoil works for me I have had no oil related problems. My work car has 296000, so I'm talking long term also. If you don't use good filters it won't matter much what kind of oil you run. Do some research and run what ever kind of oil you want, its a free country. The question was (what oil do you run in your stump grinder). Then you leave a reply and somone jumps all over you. They are all opinions unless we have a stable full of chemical engineers here. So I stick with my answer I use Amsoil they have a full line up of syn oil, tranny fluid, grease, and so on, some products are hard to find from the other company's. Only my opinion from long term use of there products.
Dave
Dave
Amsoil total lube business isnt even dot on a computer screen compared to the biggies like E-M, Shell, Chevron-Phillips.
If you want to keep using a over priced, undervalued product go ahead. There are better products out there. Do some research for yourself.
dtw902
ArboristSite Operative
Just because they are large corps does that make them better, I have done research, lets hear what oil you use and if your oil analysis is so bad after 6 months what is causing the contamination. Like I stated I like Amsoil. You use what ever you like and leave it at that. If you are the expert then start your own oil blending company and sell your product, you'll find that if you don't have all the corp money it will be tough. I find it hard to believe that a company could stay in business 34 years and not do somthing right. Just my thoughts I'm sure you will have a good response to this as for me lunch is over I have tree"s to work on ( if all my engines are not seized just kidding ).
Dave
just kidding ).Dave
No? Wh0 has more money for R&D Exxon mobil or Amsoil?
In the inwter I use Mobil Delvac 1
or Petro Canada 5w40. This is for a dodge diesel BTW.
in the summer I use delvac or delo 15w40. Drain interval varries, but I have went 15k on both of the 5w40's with excellany results and 10k on the dino 15w40. The Cummins diesel is very easy on oil and has a 3 gallon capacity
Amsoil formula for succes is a good sales pitch and gullable people.
BTW you seem to be of the oppinion that dirt is the only thing that fowls oil. This is completley in correct as even oem filters do a fine job of keeping dirt out of the motors. What about water level, soot level, nitration, oxidation,particulate level, tbn depletion, aw and detergent additive levels?
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