MS 250 Compression - What To Expect

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Seriously?

All depends on who's buyin and who's sellin.

I personally wouldn't give more than that.......I have no need or desire for a clamshell in that class.
Check eBay for completed listings to give yourself an idea. They used to sell for $299 brand new.
 
:msp_confused:Me thinks I'm rethinking this. I took a look on ebay, they ranged from practically brand new, and reflective prices, all the way down to $70 rats without b's&c's. All I want is a decent little (40-45cc) back-up to my ms361 and that is better suited to the smaller jobs around the farm, but don't want to pay more for something than it is worth.
 
To the OP,

Just my two cents, take it for what it's worth, I 've had my 025 since I was 18, used it for winter firewood while still living at home then after moving out on my own. It was also used to help clean fence rows on the farm occasionally. I'm very particular and take extra care of my tools, it's 22 yrs old and other than normal maintenance it had its first carb rebuild 2 yrs ago. Still running strong!!! For what your planning to use it for sounds to me it would fit your needs. I do agree the price sounds a little high. I'd say more like no more than $100-$125. If it's in good condition.

Good Luck!
 
To the OP,

Just my two cents, take it for what it's worth, I 've had my 025 since I was 18, used it for winter firewood while still living at home then after moving out on my own. It was also used to help clean fence rows on the farm occasionally. I'm very particular and take extra care of my tools, it's 22 yrs old and other than normal maintenance it had its first carb rebuild 2 yrs ago. Still running strong!!! For what your planning to use it for sounds to me it would fit your needs. I do agree the price sounds a little high. I'd say more like no more than $100-$125. If it's in good condition.

Good Luck!
Your opinion is worth a bit more to me than $0.02. Moody almost had me sold on Husky 340/345/350's (and their Jred equivalents) and if it wasn't for the fact that the only 340 in the area was 2 hours away, and on the other side of Boston from me; I probably would've bought it. I was getting ready to look at a 350 located about 15 miles away and decided to check the specs on them; I was not impressed. I converted the kw (2.3) over to hp and got 3.08, and the weight came in at either 10.6 or 10.8 lbs, not heavy for a nearly 52cc saw, but it seemed under powered. I remembered that the MS 250 was rated at 3 HP, looked up the weight and they came in at 10.1 lbs, which is lighter than the 40cc (2.68 hp) 340 at 10.3 lbs. I worked out all of the power to weight ratios that I could find on 40cc saws and the 340 was the best, but then realized that the MS 250 easily beat it, the 345 and even the 350 (not in hp, but power to weight ratio). That's what got me thinking about the MS 250 and they do have their flaws and their detractors, but the majority of posters who have written anything about them all say about the same thing that you just did. "Beat the holy heck of the thing and it willingly comes back for more abuse." Overall, most owners of the saw praise it's reliability, durability and they seem to be good cutters to boot. It's a homeowner grade "clam shell", so what? For what I am looking to do with it; I don't need a pro saw, would be a waste of money. I have every reason to believe that the previously mentioned Huskies and Jreds are excellent saws, but I don't have any reason at this point to believe that the MS 250 is inferior to them.
 
A Husqvarna 350 is twice the saw of an 025/MS250.....IMO.
And this $0.02 worth of info is coming from a STIHL fan.
I've owned both
Have you owned or run the 340 and 345? Thoughts? The MS 361 that I already have is 59cc, 4.4 hp, and I didn't want to get a saw that was too close in size. The lighter weight of the smaller saw is also appealing, part of the reason I'm buying the smaller saw. I haven't written Husky off yet; I'm just weighing my options.
 
Nothing wrong with either of these saws! The 350 is more pro grade than the 250, however, the 250 is a pretty good saw. The #2 sold Stihl behind the MS290 and new are now $329. 1/2 that for a used saw in running condition, maybe a little more in great condition. I'm selling one with little time on it for $200 and have turned down $150 three times, $175 it would go.

The Husky 350.... very nice and they sell in my area for $175-225 all day long. Muffler mod either and you'll be surprised at the power, both pretty light in the hand.... .4lbs you'll never feel the difference. Put a 346 top end on the 350 and you'll have a ripper!

My vote is the 350 because of the 346 upgrade possibility... All magnesium case and a whole lot easier to work on.
 
Have you owned or run the 340 and 345? Thoughts? The MS 361 that I already have is 59cc, 4.4 hp, and I didn't want to get a saw that was too close in size. The lighter weight of the smaller saw is also appealing, part of the reason I'm buying the smaller saw. I haven't written Husky off yet; I'm just weighing my options.

You wont notice a weight difference with 340/345/350. They all share the same chassis.
No, I have never run a 340 or 345.
 
You wont notice a weight difference with 340/345/350. They all share the same chassis.
No, I have never run a 340 or 345.

Correct.... 340/345/346/350/351/353 all share the same chassis. One of my tree service customers swears by the 345 he runs. I've rebuilt that saw 3 times from dropping it, running it over and the latest, pulling the intake boot loose.
 
Compression Test

Yes, absolutely, that will be good info to know. Thanks much.
Tested this 025 engine twice and got 103 and 105 psi. Imagine that after ten years of use, about 500 hours of operation, and the original piston and rings? I'm afraid that I have to be impressed. I wager this saw will last another 10 years without breathing hard. A new pickup body, fuel line, and tank vent hose was all it needed--less than $20 in parts. I spent the rest of the time cleaning it all up, sharpening the chain, and redressing the bar. It's good to go. :rock:
 
To the OP,

Just my two cents, take it for what it's worth, I 've had my 025 since I was 18, used it for winter firewood while still living at home then after moving out on my own. It was also used to help clean fence rows on the farm occasionally. I'm very particular and take extra care of my tools, it's 22 yrs old and other than normal maintenance it had its first carb rebuild 2 yrs ago. Still running strong!!! For what your planning to use it for sounds to me it would fit your needs. I do agree the price sounds a little high. I'd say more like no more than $100-$125. If it's in good condition.

Good Luck!

That's my exact story, except the saw is a $99.95 Poulan 2050. You take care of your equipment and it will take care of you. I see no reason why an MS-250 would not give years of faithful service if the owner gave it proper care and respect.
 
Nothing wrong with either of these saws! The 350 is more pro grade than the 250, however, the 250 is a pretty good saw. The #2 sold Stihl behind the MS290 and new are now $329. 1/2 that for a used saw in running condition, maybe a little more in great condition. I'm selling one with little time on it for $200 and have turned down $150 three times, $175 it would go.

The Husky 350.... very nice and they sell in my area for $175-225 all day long. Muffler mod either and you'll be surprised at the power, both pretty light in the hand.... .4lbs you'll never feel the difference. Put a 346 top end on the 350 and you'll have a ripper!

My vote is the 350 because of the 346 upgrade possibility... All magnesium case and a whole lot easier to work on.
This, as well as what the rest of the posters have written, is all good stuff and the exact discussion that I was looking to have. The one question left in my mind about the Huskies is their reliability. Stihl's reputation for reliability, dependability and ruggedness is legendary. Okay, the 350 is the better overall saw between the two, but is it going to start and run trouble free for years? I've heard others say, and this is opinion speaking, that the "fiddle factor" is higher for Huskies than for Stihl, which seem to have the reputation of "set it and forget it." This means that the Huskies require more tuning to keep them running right, is this true or not?
 
If you use a regular automotive gauge with a long hose your readings will probably be 20-50 psi low.
Right on Furguson! - In regards to what psi to expect on a MS150C Stihl chainsaw. I just got done intalling a new fuel pump today. Also did a compression test. I have the automotive 0-300 psi pressure gauge with the short hose and threaded fittings. I only had about 26 psi before the tuning. Felt like it too. It wasn't starting, so I replaced the fuel pump, since it was leaking. Pulled the muffler off, checked the screen on it - clean. Checked the piston for scaring by pulling on the rope a few times - no scaring, but it looked black like it was getting some blow-by, but no scaring. Yay! Only some carbon build up. I pulled the spark plug and saturated both sides in PB Blaster for about 5 minutes. I thought maybe the rings had seated themselves in the piston from to much carbon build up. Therefore it wouldn't start. Took the wire brush to the spark plug and reinstalled everything. My Stihl mechanic said I should think about upgrading, because he was sure it should be reading closer closer to 100-125 psi at least. However, I believe in miracles. So, you wouldn't believe it. This thing started on the second pull and runs on an idle like new off the shelf! It smoked a good bit from the PB Blaster for about 20-30 seconds. After trimming a few trees like a champion, I pulled the spark plug and did another compression test fully expecting 100-150 psi for how good it runs. Well to my amazement now it's reading even lower at 23-24 psi! Haven't had it running this good in a long time. Maybe someone else can explain the low pressure reading? This gauge is reading well over 100 psi perfectly on a V8 Mercruiser. Another amazing thing - this thing started on year old fuel and idles beautifully. No joke. Running as strong as new on old fuel. I must say that I'm using Amsoil 2 cycle fuel mix with Ethonal gas. Highly recommend Amsoil's fuel oil over Stihl's 2 cycle oil, but I'm still unclear why everyone thinks these small engines need such high compression when my MS250C clearly does not!
 
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