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A friend and I have been cutting cord wood at our jobsite lately on the weekends and his craftsman saw S#it the bed so he was in need for a new saw. I told him to get a new husky or stihl and pay for a decent saw, I told him to spend around $300. Well he bought a used old husky 50 from another buddy at work for $150 and the bar,chain was junk and carb needed adjustment. I wasn't there to see that deal. Well he sent it in,and the husky dealer charged him $150 for bar, chain and a few carb turns. He could of bought a new saw for that kind of money or I would of sold him my stihl ms250 for a better deal than that. I can see dealers need to make money on repairs but WOW,I would of fixed his saw for $50 in parts and a six pack of bud. I wish I sold him my saw to help him and myself. The husky 50 is an alright saw but for being 15-20 years old for $300 I feel for him!!!
 
computeruser, I read your profile and I bet you see all kinds of people paying the price for a lesson or two being a lawyer. Your post was well said!!!
 
Stihl here said:
computeruser, I read your profile and I bet you see all kinds of people paying the price for a lesson or two being a lawyer. Your post was well said!!!

Pretty much. The part that amazes me, though, is that people will do the SAME thing over and over again and learn NOTHING. The thing is that there's nothing wrong with paying a price - money, time, inconvenience - to learn a lesson, that's just part of life. But to willingly do it twice?! Foolish!

Quick story - client terminates an employee, employee takes complaints to EEOC about race and gender discrimination. No real discrimination occurred, but client needs to clean up employment policies, supervisor's oversight practices, and update employment contracts and employee rules/regs handbook to avoid this sort of problem in the future. Client hires attorney (not me) to get them out of trouble, and pays A TON to do it. Once they're out of trouble, they make NO changes in their policies or practices, so of course the same problem happens again. They had since retained me/my firm to handle another matter, so I offer to look into this one. We come up with a quote (flat rate, even) to get their ducks in order BEFORE terminating the problem employee, where we will review and fix their policies and procedures so that they can smoothly discharge the problem employee AND have their business practices fixed up for the future. They balk at the price, which is actually less than they paid to get OUT of trouble last time. They refuse to see it as a worthwhile investment. Oh well, I'm sure I'll get a call in a few months when employee #2 goes after them for discrimination...
 
computeruseer,I like your point in getting help can be an investment. I would of never said those words years ago,I probably would of laughed at those words actually. Strange how your thinking changes as you grow up. My oldman's favorite saying was "those who think they know it all have alot to learn".I use to roll my eyes after he told me that as a kid. Now I seem to think of him whenever a argument,conflict happens. I must say though, My image of an attorney isn't one holding a chainsaw!! lol, That blew my image, It also shows not to judge a book buy its cover!!!
 
haha, even lawyers need cool hobbies....cutting in the woods is a nice change from playing golf....and i LOVE playing golf!!!!!
 
Dan Forsh said:
I'm not sure if you US boys are familiar with the saying, but here in the UK it is "Once bitten twice shy"
That sounds like an old Great White song.:cheers:
 
computeruser said:
Quick story - client terminates an employee, employee takes complaints to EEOC about race and gender discrimination. No real discrimination occurred, but client needs to clean up employment policies, supervisor's oversight practices, and update employment contracts and employee rules/regs handbook to avoid this sort of problem in the future.
So, does your statement "no real discrimination occurred" mean no discrimination occurred, or something else? If no discrimination occurred, why did you use the qualifier "real?" The question of discrimination occurring is a yes or no question, and any qualifier simply muddles the statement, no? The rest of your statement seems to indicate why the qualifier was included, however. When you say that the employment policies need to be cleaned up, you're speaking of ceasing the discrimination that seems to be occurring from the tone of your post, no?
 
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Ekka said:
I was thinking more along the lines of

"a fool and his money are easily parted." :greenchainsaw:
That sounds like someone who bought a Husky..:laugh: :ices_rofl: :laugh: JK
 
This is quite the rip-off.

In my store: Chain-$15, bar-$30, Labor, just to put the bar and chain on and adjust carb-$10. $55 plus tax.

The guys a crook.
 
spacemule said:
So, does your statement "no real discrimination occurred" mean no discrimination occurred, or something else? If no discrimination occurred, why did you use the qualifier "real?" The question of discrimination occurring is a yes or no question, and any qualifier simply muddles the statement, no? The rest of your statement seems to indicate why the qualifier was included, however. When you say that the employment policies need to be cleaned up, you're speaking of ceasing the discrimination that seems to be occurring from the tone of your post, no?

Geez, it's the weekend. I shouldn't have to be THAT precise, drafting and re-drafting my posts!

But to answer your question, in the situation I described no race/gender discrimination occured. The employee had exhibited a regular pattern of simply blowing off client appointments, routinely showing up late for work, dressing inappropriately for her job (wearing straight-up hoochie-wear in a professional setting), violating professional codes of conduct because she was being guided by her faith and was acting as an instrument of the will of God, and stuff like that. She asserted that those were attributes of her culture and belief system, and sanctioning her for engaging in them was discrimination, rather than recognizing tht the behaviors were examples objectively inappropriate workplace conduct.
 
computeruser said:
Geez, it's the weekend. I shouldn't have to be THAT precise, drafting and re-drafting my posts!
Ha ha!! I have that same feeling everytime I have to read fine print on any transactions. ;)

If that's her argument, then it certainly sounds like no discrimination occurred. Most places have a professional code of ethics or code of conduct that explicitly states what is expected of the employees. I assume this company had no such documents? I think these documents are a good idea for a number of reasons. Do you specialize in labor practices?
 
Yeaaaa

Try paying a dollar for a friggin Bar/chain nut. You can get the same thing in a hardware store for like 20cents. Not that I'm cheap, but DAMN, $1 for a friggin nut? Sometimes i wonder about this new dealer dude.
 
ciscoguy01 said:
Try paying a dollar for a friggin Bar/chain nut. You can get the same thing in a hardware store for like 20cents. Not that I'm cheap, but DAMN, $1 for a friggin nut? Sometimes i wonder about this new dealer dude.


I highly doubt you will find a flanged headed nut in metric at your local hardware store for 20 cents, if you do, I will send you 5 bucks to pick me up a box. Bar nuts through dolmar are about 2.50....

A regular nut, yes is very cheap, it also doesn't have the integrated washer in the head of the nut.... to me, a dollar is fine. Not worht the hassle of losing the washer everytime the bar nut is taken off...

You think that is bad, go price some covers for a Stihl, or better yet a topend for a 660.
 
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Freakingstang said:
I highly doubt you will find a flanged headed nut in metric at your local hardware store for 20 cents, if you do, I will send you 5 bucks to pick me up a box. Bar nuts through dolmar are about 2.50....

A regular nut, yes is very cheap, it also doesn't have the integrated washer in the head of the nut.... to me, a dollar is fine. Not worht the hassle of losing the washer everytime the bar nut is taken off...

You think that is bad, go price some covers for a Stihl, or better yet a topend for a 660.

:jawdrop: I never woulda guessed they were that expensive. Sh1te...


Oh, and yea dude, so far this week, I've spent close to $400 in parts/oil and chains at my Stihl dealer. It just shocked me, lol. One of those things ya know. Like when you go into a store to buy a drink and the cashier is like $3. Your like HUH???? Got me?

Oh man, I just figured out you prolly thought I was talking about the big ones the same size as the spark plug, no, these are the smaller ones. For my old 266xp, 041's and 031's etc...
 
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ciscoguy01 said:
Oh man, I just figured out you prolly thought I was talking about the big ones the same size as the spark plug, no, these are the smaller ones. For my old 266xp, 041's and 031's etc...


No, I meant the small ones.... dolmars are the same as the huksies, but have a tad larger integrated washer, so i thought I'd pick up a couple extra. he said 2 fity, I said no thanks. Hell the Stihl big ones are only a buck!

Anywho, I totally know what you mean. Went to the stihl dealer to pick up a fuel line and a an elastostart handle. After ordering the covers for my 084, I about **** my pants when the total was $166 and some change!!!!
 
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Freakingstang said:
No, I meant the small ones.... dolmars are the same as the huksies, but have a tad larger integrated washer, so i thought I'd pick up a couple extra. he said 2 fity, I said no thanks. Hell the Stihl big ones are only a buck!

Anywho, I totally know what you mean. Went to the stihl dealer to pick up a fuel line and a an elastostart handle. After ordering the covers for my 084, I about **** my pants when the total was $166 and some change!!!!

Yea, then I **** again today. I bought a new chainbrake for my 266 right? $85, not too bad. So I'm cuttin away and notice that the exhaust is burning the brand new plastic brake handle. I'm like DAMNIT. So I call him back and tell him. He said I need a deflector shield, I'm like, ugh!!! And you didn't notice that? So he tells me I have to buy a whole new muffler, $60. For $60 I can buy 2 lifetime guaranteed mufflers for my jeep from the parts store. You gotta be kidding me. So for me to be safer in the woods, it went from $85 to $150 really quick. It's BS dude. Plain and simple. And now my brand new chainbrake is scorched with some melted plastic. Nice, really nice.:bang:
 
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