My first climb job.

[Kottonwood]

I am really just ranting cuz I am pissed about that elm tree....

It is cool that you're learning to climb. I just hate the idea that owning a bucket truck makes you a tree man... I think it makes you a tree man about as much as it makes you a lineman. I just think climbing trees is something you should learn early in your career. It gives you a different relationship with the tree and tree work.... just my opinion

swyman, if you own a tree business but have never climbed a tree I am just making the assumption that you have never picked up a book about arboriculture or taken a class about how to properly maintain trees and neither has anyone on your crew. Am I wrong?

 

[Blakesmaster]

The HO told me he had 3 companies just leave his property and not give.the bid which is suprising. I let him know that this would be my first climb and that I am not going to use any spikes and he was very pleased. I never mislead him in any way and it will be a nice fairly.simple job and will take my time. My rates for this job were not a huge profit but not lowballed either. I intend to be an honest, straight forward company to learn and go home in one piece everyday. Hope it gets.me somewhere someday.

Sorry dude, I don't see it. Maybe I need to move to Missouri because around here if I told a customer that I'd never climbed a tree before they would laugh me off their property. 3 tree services turned down the job? Why? I'll stick with my carpentry analogy, if you called some guy to build you a set of stairs for your porch and he shows up, and admits to never having done that before, would you hire him?

 

[tree MDS]

Sorry dude, I don't see it. Maybe I need to move to Missouri because around here if I told a customer that I'd never climbed a tree before they would laugh me off their property. 3 tree services turned down the job? Why? I'll stick with my carpentry analogy, if you called some guy to build you a set of stairs for your porch and he shows up, and admits to never having done that before, would you hire him?

Easy on the poor guy blakes... I thought this forum was for beginners and new to the business types, what's a salty old veteran tree dog like you doing in here picking on the poor guy? Live and let live bro!

 

[swyman]

I am really just ranting cuz I am pissed about that elm tree....

It is cool that you're learning to climb. I just hate the idea that owning a bucket truck makes you a tree man... I think it makes you a tree man about as much as it makes you a lineman. I just think climbing trees is something you should learn early in your career. It gives you a different relationship with the tree and tree work.... just my opinion

swyman, if you own a tree business but have never climbed a tree I am just making the assumption that you have never picked up a book about arboriculture or taken a class about how to properly maintain trees and neither has anyone on your crew. Am I wrong?

I have a retired former tree care owner that was in the business for 20 years that view with me on every job. He was not a climber but hired one when he needed. He would find them while in jail or at AA meetings. I will that he has helped.me greatly but is not as professional as I want to become.

 

[Blakesmaster]

Easy on the poor guy blakes... I thought this forum was for beginners and new to the business types, what's a salty old veteran tree dog like you doing in here picking on the poor guy? Live and let live bro!

Blah blah blah. Hugs and kisses all around, etc. Want me to pat his back and say "good job, buddy"? He seems a nice dude, upfront and honest and all that, but I'm trying to understand his reasoning, that's all.

 

[formationrx]

mr immortal...

....this whole thing sounds bad....DVDs !? what? come on? really?....you got a bucket and cant climb? thats bad mojo...it does not make any sense to me..... have someone experienced teach you..... most people who die from a fall in this business are not high off the ground.... life is far too precious to risk on crazy stunts....

 

[Kottonwood]

i have a retired former tree care owner that was in the business for 20 years that view with me on every job. He was not a climber but hired one when he needed. He would find them while in jail or at aa meetings. I will that he has helped.me greatly but is not as professional as i want to become.

ha!

 

[tree MDS]

I have a retired former tree care owner that was in the business for 20 years that view with me on every job. He was not a climber but hired one when he needed. He would find them while in jail or at AA meetings. I will that he has helped.me greatly but is not as professional as I want to become.

How old are you man? Why don't you just get a job working for a decent company for a while? I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned to you, but I must have missed the answer.

This mentor of yours sounds like a joke.. either that or you're screwing with us.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Easy on the poor guy blakes... I thought this forum was for beginners and new to the business types, what's a salty old veteran tree dog like you doing in here picking on the poor guy? Live and let live bro!

Wow, you actually sound a good guy rather than a blathering know it all! Nice to see some restraint in the 101 forum. Maybe someday I will be the Moderator of this forum. May need some since they will likely get a little harassed here to.
Jeff

 

[jefflovstrom]

I have a retired former tree care owner that was in the business for 20 years that view with me on every job. He was not a climber but hired one when he needed. He would find them while in jail or at AA meetings. I will that he has helped.me greatly but is not as professional as I want to become.

I am not trying to start anything, but a retired tree care owner for 20 years don't come close to a guy that has 35 years experience and still can not retire for another 15 years!
Jeff

 

[tree MDS]

Wow, you actually sound a good guy rather than a blathering know it all! Nice to see some restraint in the 101 forum. Maybe someday I will be the Moderator of this forum. May need some since they will likely get a little harassed here to.
Jeff

Don't let a couple of posts fool ya jeff, I'm still the same old blathering know it all!

 

[Saw Dust Smoken]

small jobs

A lot of big companys wont do small jobs. $300 or under $500 they wont go out. Not enough profit for big compay. Three buz owner here wont get out of the bucket to trim or removals. Get out there and climb!

 

[Nailsbeats]

If you don't or haven't climbed then you aren't a real treeman. It's a dead give away to someone's skill level. Think about that when you think about mentors.

And I don't care how many degrees someone hangs on their wall, how many people they boss around, how many trees they look at in one day, how big their company is, or what their bottom line last year was....

 

[MackenzieTree]

Im kinda new but before touching any tree i learned to climb first, my uncle is an lic arborist and has done it his whole life and only climbs doesnt own any bucket trucks thats the way to do it even though trucks are needed in some jobs. Climbing is getting a feel for tree care and maintaince and a different knowledge alltogether.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Im kinda new but before touching any tree i learned to climb first, my uncle is an lic arborist and has done it his whole life and only climbs doesnt own any bucket trucks thats the way to do it even though trucks are needed in some jobs. Climbing is getting a feel for tree care and maintaince and a different knowledge alltogether.

Jeff

 

[tree MDS]

Jeff

You're just not opening your ears enough to the youth of our trade Jeff...

I don't know how you think you're gonna make moderator of this forum with that attitude! Just saying.

 

[VA-Sawyer]

I hope it's a troll, cause if not............. just the thought, gives me a headache.

Rick

 

[VA-Sawyer]

There is a thread over in the PRO section about a guy trying to find a good climber, maybe I should suggest that he check in jails and at AA meetings.
Rick

 

[swyman]

Good thread gone bad. Posted with good intent in the proper forum and kind of blew up. That's ok, I'll be fine and there was some to learn from this. Wow? Admit might not have best crew but will make it. Had a good starting year and getting off to a better one this year. You guys on this forum are the only reason I would even think of learning to climb and thank you for it. Maybe some looking out for my safety so I hope I don't get hurt for the bashers to say I told you so. Stay tuned, will let you know.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

Post a before and after pic of the job.