Negative posts

[oldugly]

However

I spent a little time degrading the moral fabric of tree guys in general in my last post, or it would seem that way...I just wanted to clarify one thing. Although we are a bunch of self-centered egomaniacs...there is no one group of people that take more pride, or has more confidence in facing challenges than tree guys.

Also, if you are successful in this business, (not measured monetarily but by survival) you have to be intelligent, courageous, and most of all able to project yourself into your work in a competitive, and agressive manor. These characteristics are hard to find in the general public, and to bring a group of people like this in one place is an amazing thing.

It is a good thing we sit behind computer screens to voice our opinions sometimes. If we all were face to face, we would either keep silent our opinions, or end up coming to violence. This media in some ways is more honest and open than most meetings in person, (if the people involved have any moral fabric at all).

Another amazing quality about tree guys....We are always right. Even though we may change our minds....we weren't wrong the first time. LOL

 

[maxburton]

We are always right. Even though we may change our minds....we weren't wrong the first time.

Wiser words were never spoken!

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Nothing New

July 27:
....But, i say we have all failed, that if 2 say those things about 'us', 20+ have left without the respect of such a salutation/explanation; why would they bother? So as these 2 raise their hands to be counted, my heart sinks; for i have settled here, to give the most to the most (people), and have those people making me think as i due they, that leverage has dissipated.

i reach deep to bring forth some of the things i painstakiningly have wrought, almost like a deep soul searching and assembly of my experience, i need meditative kinda peace for that as others likewise that try hard to think clearly etc.


may 8:

Gentleman let this table be round.

We are all used to being warriors against the odds in the field; commanding cooperation of giants -the largest living organisms to wander our earth. Wee seem to be a breed that locks horns with the bull, and thru conniving and determination of body, mind and soul; just don't give up before it does, ushering its nose to the ground with control and grace. As wee ants stand before these matchstix! (One of my favorites Murph!)

There aren't many like us, if you can't wave or nod passing another crew on the road a block from the job; and end up up side down in the air; Who ya gonna call? i'm sorry to say, that i know exacly what Nick is talking about; and long before now.

All that aggresive energy, can be used in its place not hear. Here ye, can tip visors and toss these things around. Fold in things and views, see if they work for you.

Peace.


jun 30

i see peoples wanting to be looked on as polished profession-alls; carrying on like they were loud, rowdy roughnecks behind a seedy bar; trying to intimidate and prove each other out. i guess that is the ugly side of male competition; but think it should be channeled and controlled better! The war is in the fieds against gravity and injury i feel; not against one of the few on the planet that could rescue you in an emergency the way we push the odds. Nor against the only, almost chosen; few that can share and expand your own experiences; and also can do so through this medium.

i see the possibility of quiet thinkers and learners (with their own enrichening contributions) shying away from these loud, unsettling abashments; - short changing all. For i have felt these tides in myself; but have chosen to stay in the thin times; but what of those i try now (and previously) to speak for?

i think this board is great; and perhaps haven't thanked ya for it lately. But; i think it is great and dynamic enough, to try to be just this good positive, shining thing you have birthed, without the rest. i hope i am never really taken negatively, all ways and always try to peacefully present and explore. Ok lil'sarcasm and word-play for balance too!


Jul 07:
If Y'all wanna be the Supremes,

You must learn

the write tune.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T;

What it really means to me;

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

-KC

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Miss Mary Wilson and the girls did it; b4 doing it with the Temptations; i think it was kinda a Motown thing.

Poetically, i din't think that saying ya want to be the Reddings, then hear the music and respect each other; quite had the same ring to it as the same line with everyone wanting to be the Supreme (climbers etc.), somehow!:biggrinbounce2:

 

[treeseer]

Otis' version of Respect is still the best...another song he wrote and sang seems to fit into this thread:

OTIS REDDING
Try A Little Tenderness

[This is for you] Ooh she may be weary
And them young girls they do get weary
Wearing that same old shaggy dress
But when they get weary
[You gotta] try a little tenderness

[Tell you, might not believe it, but]
You know she's waiting
Just anticipating
The thing that she'll never, never, possess,no,no
But while [all the time] she's without it
Go to her and try just a little bit of tenderness
[Thats all you gentlemen gotta do]

Oh,but its one thing
It might be a bit sentimental yeah, yeah
She has - her greaves and care
But the soft words [they] are spoken so gentle
Yeah
But, oh, that makes it, makes it easier to bear, yeah

You wont regret it
No no,
Them young girls they dont forget it
[Cause] Love is their whole, whole happiness Yes, yes, yeah

And its all so easy
Come on and try
Try a little Tenderness
Yeah Try
Just keep on trying

You've got to love her
Squeeze her
Don't tease her Make love [Get to her]
Hold her tight
Just, just try a little tenderness
Thats all you gotta do
Youve gotta hold her tight

One more time
You`ve got to love her
hold her Don't tease her
Never leave her
Make love to her
Hold her, man

Try a little tenderness
[Just one time] God have mercy now

All you`ve gotta do
Love her
You've gotta hold her
Don't squeeze her
Never leave her Y
ou gotta now,now,now

Watch it , tell everybody
Try
Try a little tenderness

You gotta make love
Don't tease her
Never leave her
Rub her down
Smooth her, soothe her
Move her
Love her
Rub her
Gotta gotta, zak it to her
Try some tenderness

Oh yeah
Tenderness
Little tendernes
Gotta, lord you gotta hold her
Squeeze her Never leave her

 

[Yellowdog]

I'm a new member, only a few posts, but I read everything here. It's really disappointing to see how a great discussion can be violently derailed by negative posts. It seems like every thread eventually gets insulting and intolerant posts in it. Worst of all, a lot of these inflammatory posts make good points, but usually end up starting arguments and killing the conversation. Like I said, I'm a newbie here, but maybe I'm out of line by even making this thread, in which case I sincerely apologize to all. But is there a strategy for dealing with folks who start posturing and insulting without adding to the discussion?

Yep, I noticed that too. Should have been around for some of the flying rodents posts in the past.
Some people get real defensive, real fast. Dunno why they just can't have a civil conversation? I don't post much because of some of the attitude you get...That's not to say, though, that there isn't some great guys and gals here willing to lend experience..

 

[jmack]

I'm a new member, only a few posts, but I read everything here. It's really disappointing to see how a great discussion can be violently derailed by negative posts. It seems like every thread eventually gets insulting and intolerant posts in it. Worst of all, a lot of these inflammatory posts make good points, but usually end up starting arguments and killing the conversation. Like I said, I'm a newbie here, but maybe I'm out of line by even making this thread, in which case I sincerely apologize to all. But is there a strategy for dealing with folks who start posturing and insulting without adding to the discussion?

relax max what do you do for a living ??????????? j

 

[jmack]

Otis' version of Respect is still the best...another song he wrote and sang seems to fit into this thread:

OTIS REDDING
Try A Little Tenderness

[This is for you] Ooh she may be weary
And them young girls they do get weary
Wearing that same old shaggy dress
But when they get weary
[You gotta] try a little tenderness

[Tell you, might not believe it, but]
You know she's waiting
Just anticipating
The thing that she'll never, never, possess,no,no
But while [all the time] she's without it
Go to her and try just a little bit of tenderness
[Thats all you gentlemen gotta do]

Oh,but its one thing
It might be a bit sentimental yeah, yeah
She has - her greaves and care
But the soft words [they] are spoken so gentle
Yeah
But, oh, that makes it, makes it easier to bear, yeah

You wont regret it
No no,
Them young girls they dont forget it
[Cause] Love is their whole, whole happiness Yes, yes, yeah

And its all so easy
Come on and try
Try a little Tenderness
Yeah Try
Just keep on trying

You've got to love her
Squeeze her
Don't tease her Make love [Get to her]
Hold her tight
Just, just try a little tenderness
Thats all you gotta do
Youve gotta hold her tight

One more time
You`ve got to love her
hold her Don't tease her
Never leave her
Make love to her
Hold her, man

Try a little tenderness
[Just one time] God have mercy now

All you`ve gotta do
Love her
You've gotta hold her
Don't squeeze her
Never leave her Y
ou gotta now,now,now

Watch it , tell everybody
Try
Try a little tenderness

You gotta make love
Don't tease her
Never leave her
Rub her down
Smooth her, soothe her
Move her
Love her
Rub her
Gotta gotta, zak it to her
Try some tenderness

Oh yeah
Tenderness
Little tendernes
Gotta, lord you gotta hold her
Squeeze her Never leave her

replacements version as well

 

[Slyder]

This has been an interesting post to read.
This type of thing has been going on since the dawn of time.
There are all kinds of people.
And the statement has been asked, "Can't we all just get along"
I kinda like some of the controversy, it adds a little spice to life. Can you imagine if we all thought the same and acted the same how boring life would be.
I was called a Troll on a post. I wasn't quite sure how to take it or what it meant, but I asked he told me and life goes on.

I'm new to this sight and I think your right as far as the threads going down hill fast, just learn to take a little and you'll have your chance to give a little.

This has always been a thought of mine, remember when you were growing up in school, all the bully's, the jocks, the dope heads, the nerds we all kinda find a place that we fit in. This is where we all were molded into our mind sets and it deep down it the crevices of our minds it remains.

Just try to take things from all points of view.

 

[M.D. Vaden]

The thread has a good point, but achieving it may be a bit like trying to convert a tavern to country club etiqette.

But, amazingly, this forum is quite a bit more polite than sections of the Garden Web (.com) which appears like cat fights in sections like landscape design sometimes.

That site is not very tightly monitored since the coordinator is not all that interested in gardening.

So, although Arborist Site could "sharpen it's dull edges" a bit, it's still much sharper than many other dull rusty blades on the internet.

 

[pbtree]

I'm a new member, only a few posts, but I read everything here. It's really disappointing to see how a great discussion can be violently derailed by negative posts. It seems like every thread eventually gets insulting and intolerant posts in it. Worst of all, a lot of these inflammatory posts make good points, but usually end up starting arguments and killing the conversation. Like I said, I'm a newbie here, but maybe I'm out of line by even making this thread, in which case I sincerely apologize to all. But is there a strategy for dealing with folks who start posturing and insulting without adding to the discussion?

Don't lose too much sleep over the ego's - just glean the good stuff (there is lots of it here...) and ignore the rest!

Welcome to the site!

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

Rubbish Like This Should Be In 'off Topic' This Forum Is About Tree Work Not Personality's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!