New 346XP by Husqvarna!

[SawTroll]

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(Sawtroll relax, I likes Peter, we fuss together real good)

:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: No need to relax here - I know you both quite well......

 

[THALL10326]

That's a mighty fine offer of you there brother Thall, I'll keep the belgian beers ready for ya (Tant no folgers over here, and we ain't missin it either ...)

All kidding aside, that 346 looks a very pruty saw to me, + Troll has given his benediction over its specs, so it must be a tough one to beat. I have a few 242XP's and I would not trade them for any Stihl in its class. The 260 is a rock solid saw for sure, but everyone agrees it needs an upgrade to the 261.
Untill that happens, I'd vote for that Husky :help: :help:

After I save your hide from those heathens you best find some Folgers overthere, grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Don't tell Peter but I got no bones at all with the 346 or any other Husky. I do find it odd though people walk in this shop with 026's 10-15-20 years and swear there is no saw like it, they lovem. I hear no complaints what so ever about the 260, only praise. That praise comes from 10-15-20 years of good service, not vib systems, filtration or speed in the cut. Long term trouble free service is what matters most of all and the 260 keeps on providing it year after year. The 346 has yet to even scratch the surface of where the 260 has been. Don't tell Peter I said that, he'll have a tissy,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[THALL10326]

:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: No need to relax here - I know you both quite well......

Well you gotta admit its the best show in town,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[16:1mix]

Another testimonial to the typical box store customer. I love it!!

There is more! You don't understand the Midwestern retired farmer....I've actually had people ask for a 10% discount for things that are ALREADY on sale!



It's all I can do to keep customers away from the Troy-Bilt saws. It seems that our buying group looks ONLY at $$ and refuses to consider the number of those POS machines come back with pi$$ed off customers.


dave

 

[Just Mow]

Betcha didn't get the best at S'lowes now did ya,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Nope I pick them up at quality shops like yours.
I'll keep letting SLowe's sell all the crap they want and Husky too:jawdrop:

 

[Just Mow]

Oh my its time for a wake up call Pete. So you figure since the folks on AS don't like the 290 no one must like them, hmmmmm. Lets see, once again the numbers Pete, get with the numbers. There's 300 million people in the US alone. How many are AS members Pete, hmmmm. I've had customers tell me face to face they love that 290 I sold them so either they are lyers or you are just relying on a very few on here verses the world, you can't win the argument, your numbers just don't amount to the buying public that see's things quite different than you.

You are right people do buy crap once, sometimes twice and sometimes even more. I'd venture to say 35% to 40% of every Stihl I sell is to such a person that bought the crap machines first. That said tell us here on AS who is Husqvanra's biggest customer above everyone, who is it Pete. If you don't know I'll be glad to tell you but I want to see you admit just who is Husky's biggest customer, tell us Pete and when you do remember where all those crappy machines come from, now let it rip, who is it???

Oh Oh I Know
Sears, Lowes, And Tractor Supply cuse its definately not the dealer :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[THALL10326]

Oh Oh I Know
Sears, Lowes, And Tractor Supply cuse its definately not the dealer :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Well shoot Mow I thought Peter would have answered me by now. The answer to the question is Sears Robuck Co. All those Craftsman crappy saws Pete was talking about are made by Poulan but owned by Husky or E-lux. Its them that reap the profits of those crappy saws so as far as I'm concerned its them as well that is flooding the market with the so called crappy saws Pete was referring to. The same outfit he adores reaps the profits and floods the market with what he himself calls crap. I see it as like that of a bunch of teen-agers on the street selling crack. The cops want to get to the source of the crack, the Kingpin. In the case of crap saws the sourse that reaps the profits is who? and I'm the cop,LOLOL

To be fair to Pete though I doubt seriously Husky in Sweden has any say whatsoever over the decisions by E-lux to flood the market with low grade Craftsman saws made by Poulan. Once again though your judged by the company you keep or in this case stuck with. So in all fairness, Husky pro saws, all of them, I have no issue with at all. Being the Kingpin of crap saws though and reaping the profits and counting the funds does leave Stihl in a class by itself, the upper class..

 

[Just Mow]

Well shoot Mow I thought Peter would have answered me by now. The answer to the question is Sears Robuck Co. All those Craftsman crappy saws Pete was talking about are made by Poulan but owned by Husky or E-lux. Its them that reap the profits of those crappy saws so as far as I'm concerned its them as well that is flooding the market with the so called crappy saws Pete was referring to. The same outfit he adores reaps the profits and floods the market with what he himself calls crap. I see it as like that of a bunch of teen-agers on the street selling crack. The cops want to get to the source of the crack, the Kingpin. In the case of crap saws the sourse that reaps the profits is who? and I'm the cop,LOLOL

To be fair to Pete though I doubt seriously Husky in Sweden has any say whatsoever over the decisions by E-lux to flood the market with low grade Craftsman saws made by Poulan. Once again though your judged by the company you keep or in this case stuck with. So in all fairness, Husky pro saws, all of them, I have no issue with at all. Being the Kingpin of crap saws though and reaping the profits and counting the funds does leave Stihl in a class by itself, the upper class..

So what you are saying is Poulan = Crap

 

[THALL10326]

So what you are saying is Poulan = Crap

Somewhat but have you any idea how many Craftsman saws are sold, its tons of them. Who reaps the rewards, guess who, its not Poulan though they make them. The final tally is totalled up by the KINGPIN, whos the KINGPIN Mow??

 

[Just Mow]

Somewhat but have you any idea how many Craftsman saws are sold, its tons of them. Who reaps the rewards, guess who, its not Poulan though they make them. The final tally is totalled up by the KINGPIN, whos the KINGPIN Mow??

Does he live in Shreveport? or Sweden

 

[THALL10326]

Does he live in Shreveport? or Sweden

Well if Husky is on their own like I've heard then yes the Kingpin is in Sweden. I seriously think though E-lux runs the show and I have no clue where their main headquarters are. Maybe Peter will tell us,LOL

All kidding aside I could care less about who is who and what is what. I do like agervating Peter though. He's ok, he lives in Sweden and he should stand up for his home brand and he does. Can't fault him for that. He does need to be more carefull with that crap word though,hehe...

 

[Just Mow]

Well if Husky is on their own like I've heard then yes the Kingpin is in Sweden. I seriously think though E-lux runs the show and I have no clue where their main headquarters are. Maybe Peter will tell us,LOL

All kidding aside I could care less about who is who and what is what. I do like agervating Peter though. He's ok, he lives in Sweden and he should stand up for his home brand and he does. Can't fault him for that. He does need to be more carefull with that crap word though,hehe...

I think that E-Lux is still in control and hold the reins. And I agree the crap word should not be thrown around loosely because you never know who you will offend by calling this stuff crap and that stuff crap because if it is crap then you know its crap but you could still get offended by it being clled crap. I hope I cleared this whole crap thing up for you.

 

[THALL10326]

I think that E-Lux is still in control and hold the reins. And I agree the crap word should not be thrown around loosely because you never know who you will offend by calling this stuff crap and that stuff crap because if it is crap then you know its crap but you could still get offended by it being clled crap. I hope I cleared this whole crap thing up for you.

Thankya kindly. Now we will have to teach Pete never to say POS, thats anutter phrase we can't have on here cause I know Sears Robuck has alot of those,

 

[manual]

Ahhhhh, There you are my beauty, nobody is posting here right now, So I thought I would take a look at you again.

Oh yes, you look fast just sitting there

See you soon in America.

 

[peter399]

Well shoot Mow I thought Peter would have answered me by now. The answer to the question is Sears Robuck Co. All those Craftsman crappy saws Pete was talking about are made by Poulan but owned by Husky or E-lux. Its them that reap the profits of those crappy saws so as far as I'm concerned its them as well that is flooding the market with the so called crappy saws Pete was referring to. The same outfit he adores reaps the profits and floods the market with what he himself calls crap. I see it as like that of a bunch of teen-agers on the street selling crack. The cops want to get to the source of the crack, the Kingpin. In the case of crap saws the sourse that reaps the profits is who? and I'm the cop,LOLOL

To be fair to Pete though I doubt seriously Husky in Sweden has any say whatsoever over the decisions by E-lux to flood the market with low grade Craftsman saws made by Poulan. Once again though your judged by the company you keep or in this case stuck with. So in all fairness, Husky pro saws, all of them, I have no issue with at all. Being the Kingpin of crap saws though and reaping the profits and counting the funds does leave Stihl in a class by itself, the upper class..

Hi Thall,

Sorry for the delay, work kept me busy!
I must say I’d love to go over there and look at all your box stores, dealer, Lowes etc.
I cannot answer for any other market than mine, the Swedish market. I’d say that at least half of all Huskys sold in Sweden are XP saws, mainly 346 and 357. Another 25% of sales would be the 353 and the last 25% 345 and 350. I know of ONE person who has a 55, hence a so called farmer saw. My local dealer is a pretty big one, selling both Husky Stihl and J-red. On the Stihl shelf there is everything between the MS170 and the MS361. J-red he only stocks the 2147 and 2156, Husky from 340 to 575. But as I told, there is a overwhelming majority of 346/2147 and 357/2156.

It might very well be the case that in the US the number of Husky non-Pro saws vs the Pro ones is bigger than here. But Thall, you 300 million Americans represent 6% of the world population. How can you know anything about the ratio Pro/not Pro for Stihl and Husky? Being married to a German girl I’m a regular visitor of Germany. Germany has 80 million people, quit a lot. I can guarantee you that 90% of the Germans that buy a consumer saw, buy a Stihl. They are in every supermarket you can find. If a German buys a Husky, the chance is pretty high it’s a pro saw don’t you think?

You ask why your customers are so happy with their 290s, coming in to your shop with praises only 2 days after they bought it? Do you think they have tried something else? Do you think that anyone who has tried a 361 will have a smile reaching the ears when he tries a 290? Don’t think so Thall. My wife was born in GDR. She still remembers the fall of the iron curtain and the first time she got to eat a banana. It’s all about expectations Thall. Of course you can sell an underpowered boat anchor with lousy vibes and clogged filter to someone you has never tried something else. 2 years after he will come back and you will sell him a 361. He will make you best man on his wedding! Brilliant, for him, for you and for Stihl.

Btw, it’s Peter, not Pete.

/Peter

 

[manual]

Hi Peter,
Lowes, Sears and home Depot are stores that cater to home Owners that like to "Do it there self".
Thall and Mow Like to put a picture in peoples minds that it is a bad thing to have Husqvarna sell there saws there.
I am sure if Stihl would put there saws in the open market other then there own stores. Those home Owner stores would jump all over the chance to sell Stihls in there stores.
other Big name brand companys sell there products at these stores also,
Such as John Deere, May tag, Anderson windows to name a few.

 

[belgian]

I can guarantee you that 90% of the Germans that buy a consumer saw, buy a Stihl.

I believe you are right about this..

They are in every supermarket you can find.

peter, I travel a lot in germany but have never found Stihl products in supermarkets (baumarkt, Hornbach, Praktiker...) The only ones I have seen there are the homeowner range of dolmar, Homelite, but never Stihl or Husqvarna.

As far as I know, Stihl only works through official dealers, especially in germany,or belgium, or elsewhere .

Btw, it’s Peter, not Pete.

Pete is the american way for Peter

 

[THALL10326]

Ahhhhh, There you are my beauty, nobody is posting here right now, So I thought I would take a look at you again.

Oh yes, you look fast just sitting there

See you soon in America.

So tell me Maunal when ya gonna get ya self a 346xp, I want you to get it and when you do I'll get one too, hows that sucker, now you have to buy a brand new 346xp for all this yaking you been doing. Time to quit yaking and start buying fool, talk is cheap. As for me I'll get mine from Spike and then when ya say how great it is I'll be able to agree or tell ya BS, mine aint worth a hoot in hell,LOLOL

 

[SawTroll]

So tell me Maunal when ya gonna get ya self a 346xp, I want you to get it and when you do I'll get one too, hows that sucker, now you have to buy a brand new 346xp for all this yaking you been doing. Time to quit yaking and start buying fool, talk is cheap. As for me I'll get mine from Spike and then when ya say how great it is I'll be able to agree or tell ya BS, mine aint worth a hoot in hell,LOLOL

I guess it will be some time before it hits the market, no need to rush it.....:biggrinbounce2:

 

[THALL10326]

Hi Thall,

Sorry for the delay, work kept me busy!
I must say I’d love to go over there and look at all your box stores, dealer, Lowes etc.
I cannot answer for any other market than mine, the Swedish market. I’d say that at least half of all Huskys sold in Sweden are XP saws, mainly 346 and 357. Another 25% of sales would be the 353 and the last 25% 345 and 350. I know of ONE person who has a 55, hence a so called farmer saw. My local dealer is a pretty big one, selling both Husky Stihl and J-red. On the Stihl shelf there is everything between the MS170 and the MS361. J-red he only stocks the 2147 and 2156, Husky from 340 to 575. But as I told, there is a overwhelming majority of 346/2147 and 357/2156.

It might very well be the case that in the US the number of Husky non-Pro saws vs the Pro ones is bigger than here. But Thall, you 300 million Americans represent 6% of the world population. How can you know anything about the ratio Pro/not Pro for Stihl and Husky? Being married to a German girl I’m a regular visitor of Germany. Germany has 80 million people, quit a lot. I can guarantee you that 90% of the Germans that buy a consumer saw, buy a Stihl. They are in every supermarket you can find. If a German buys a Husky, the chance is pretty high it’s a pro saw don’t you think?

You ask why your customers are so happy with their 290s, coming in to your shop with praises only 2 days after they bought it? Do you think they have tried something else? Do you think that anyone who has tried a 361 will have a smile reaching the ears when he tries a 290? Don’t think so Thall. My wife was born in GDR. She still remembers the fall of the iron curtain and the first time she got to eat a banana. It’s all about expectations Thall. Of course you can sell an underpowered boat anchor with lousy vibes and clogged filter to someone you has never tried something else. 2 years after he will come back and you will sell him a 361. He will make you best man on his wedding! Brilliant, for him, for you and for Stihl.

Btw, it’s Peter, not Pete.

/Peter

Glad ya replied Peter. I noticed you didn't say whether you was in favor of your company reaping the rewards of all those low grade saws sold by thier biggest customer of all, Sears. Now ya can't have it both ways Peter. You can't scream how bad the 290 is and yet be in favor of Husky reaping the rewards of all those super low grade saws sold at Sears, their biggest customer in the world.

I agree the 290 is no 361 nor is the price the same either. Not everyone needs a 589.00 saw to do one tree in the back yard. You seem to always boast about XP saws but frown on homeowner Stihls as though the homeowner Stihl should be as good as the XP Husky. I've personally worked on many homeowner grade Huskies here at the shop and they are nothing to write home about, that I can assure you, but I don't mix them with their pro saws as equals. Ya need to keep the apples with the apples and the oranges with the oranges when comparing these two brands of saws.

Far as the American market goes Stihl rules, like it or lump it, those are the facts. In your home country sure Husky rules, they should. You think Stihl doesn't rule in Germany where they are made, hmmmm. That said whats left, the whole world,ok, go country to country and see who is top dog. The whole world can't be wrong and Sweden be the only one right, sorry, just isn't possible, especially after almost a half a century at the top.....