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Hi Thall! It's true that my 026 can run longer than the POS 290 but still nowhere in the near of the 353. We're talking maybe every 2 tanks on the 026, otherwise the power drop is very noticeable. On the 353 we're talking maybe 25-30 tanks of gas. Instead of taking a giant step forward in all those years since the 026 came out, you now have to clean the filter on the 290 after each face cut ;) Stihl engineers must have a very high coffee consumption and less time behind the desk...

No no no, your talking every two tanks of fuel, I'm talking many more than that with no power drop at all. I got 13 trouble free years on mine so I can't relate to what your yaking about, sorry. You still say the 290 needs a air filter cleaning after one face cut, Pete that just makes everyone go yeah right and the sky is falling too. Pete you just don't get it so let me help ya. The public, not the brand loyalist like you, but the public overall decide who is what by the number of what they buy, not everyone can be wrong and you the only one right. That said the sales of the 260 prove beyond a doubt your full it not only on the 260 but the 290 as well. Your calling Stihl a POS but you can't explain why Stihl continues to outsell your brand year after year. According to sales you got your POS's backwards which doesn't surprize me either. You may not have to clean your filter as much and now you don't have to clean your clock either, I just did it for ya,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
Haha. So now, 20 years after Husky invented the Air Injection, Stihl can launch their big marketing offensive with the Tornado system!

The big question this year will be: Can you now get through the face cut AND the back cut before it's time to clean the filter on a Stihl? :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

I'm sorry . I just couldn't resist that one :cheers:

I personally think the Flintstones threatened Husky over that cartoon logo and thats why they finally drop it, thank heaven for Fred,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
Yes this type of marketing works for Husqvarna, There is no pressure to be talked up to a pro saw. If they don't need one.
There are some lumber yard stihl dealers waiting for people to walk in so they can sell them a "Pro" saw To hack down a few trees on there dream land.

I assume your referring to me. Its not my fault they come in here complaining about the junk at Lowes and Sears and the Tractor store. What do those stores sell?, who supplies those stores? If they got a decent machine the first time I wouldn't sell so many Stihl's to them :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
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No no no, your talking every two tanks of fuel, I'm talking many more than that with no power drop at all. I got 13 trouble free years on mine so I can't relate to what your yaking about, sorry. You still say the 290 needs a air filter cleaning after one face cut, Pete that just makes everyone go yeah right and the sky is falling too. Pete you just don't get it so let me help ya. The public, not the brand loyalist like you, but the public overall decide who is what by the number of what they buy, not everyone can be wrong and you the only one right. That said the sales of the 260 prove beyond a doubt your full it not only on the 260 but the 290 as well. Your calling Stihl a POS but you can't explain why Stihl continues to outsell your brand year after year. According to sales you got your POS's backwards which doesn't surprize me either. You may not have to clean your filter as much and now you don't have to clean your clock either, I just did it for ya,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:


Hi Thall,

a bit irony can't hurt can it? The 290 is the most hated and discussed boat anchor on AS. That people buy them is a miracle and I must say I will never understand why. My only explanation is the one further down. I'm definately not calling Stihl as brand POS. They have many many good saws. The 361 and 441 for example, the 450 and 480 clearing saws. The 026 was also a very good saw but time cathes up....The only thing I have said is the 346/353 are both light much much better than the 260 without being more expensive! The second thing I’ve said is that I think the 290 is not one heck of a performer... The Husky 455 is also an anchor if that makes you feel better.

I wouldn't count on sales figures when judging a brand. People nowdays tend to buy crap, cheap crap. Same with power tools. People buy the 10$ Chinese made drilling machine at Lowes, not the Bosch or DeWalt 300$ machine. Skoda sells more cars than Ferrari, Stihl more saws than Husky, that doesn’t mean that Skoda is better than the Ferrari or that Stihl should be better than Husky, rather the other way around.
 
Yes this type of marketing works for Husqvarna, There is no pressure to be talked up to a pro saw. If they don't need one.
There are some lumber yard stihl dealers waiting for people to walk in so they can sell them a "Pro" saw To hack down a few trees on there dream land.

I assume your referring to me.

I'm sorry what part do you think, I was referring to You?
 
Hi Thall,
I wouldn't count on sales figures when judging a brand. People nowdays tend to buy crap, cheap crap. Same with power tools. People buy the 10$ Chinese made drilling machine at Lowes, not the Bosch or DeWalt 300$ machine. Skoda sells more cars than Ferrari, Stihl more saws than Husky, that doesn’t mean that Skoda is better than the Ferrari or that Stihl should be better than Husky, rather the other way around.

Shhhhhhh, You should not have said that, I like it when Thall and Mow are Delusional.
 
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Hi Thall,

a bit irony can't hurt can it? The 290 is the most hated and discussed boat anchor on AS. That people buy them is a miracle and I must say I will never understand why. My only explanation is the one further down. I'm definately not calling Stihl as brand POS. They have many many good saws. The 361 and 441 for example, the 450 and 480 clearing saws. The 026 was also a very good saw but time cathes up....The only thing I have said is the 346/353 are both light much much better than the 260 without being more expensive! The second thing I’ve said is that I think the 290 is not one heck of a performer... The Husky 455 is also an anchor if that makes you feel better.

I wouldn't count on sales figures when judging a brand. People nowdays tend to buy crap, cheap crap. Same with power tools. People buy the 10$ Chinese made drilling machine at Lowes, not the Bosch or DeWalt 300$ machine. Skoda sells more cars than Ferrari, Stihl more saws than Husky, that doesn’t mean that Skoda is better than the Ferrari or that Stihl should be better than Husky, rather the other way around.

Oh my its time for a wake up call Pete. So you figure since the folks on AS don't like the 290 no one must like them, hmmmmm. Lets see, once again the numbers Pete, get with the numbers. There's 300 million people in the US alone. How many are AS members Pete, hmmmm. I've had customers tell me face to face they love that 290 I sold them so either they are lyers or you are just relying on a very few on here verses the world, you can't win the argument, your numbers just don't amount to the buying public that see's things quite different than you.

You are right people do buy crap once, sometimes twice and sometimes even more. I'd venture to say 35% to 40% of every Stihl I sell is to such a person that bought the crap machines first. That said tell us here on AS who is Husqvanra's biggest customer above everyone, who is it Pete. If you don't know I'll be glad to tell you but I want to see you admit just who is Husky's biggest customer, tell us Pete and when you do remember where all those crappy machines come from, now let it rip, who is it???
 
Hi Lake,

I changed all clutch springs maybe 2months ago and vey little cutting with the 026 since then. Springs look 100% OK. The problem was a thin film of vey "chewy" dirt between clutch and drum. And it keeps coming back occasionally. Never had that problem with Husky clutches. When I change chain I always do a quick clean with compressed air inside the cover.

You americans always surprises me. Why buy a 20 years old 260 when there is 346? Why buy a V8 GMC when there is global warming and 5-10 hurricanes each year in the US? Why eat Burger King when there is French or Italian kitchen? Why mix your own 2 stroke gas when there is akrylate ? ;)

Happy cutting! (with Husky of course..)

/Peter



Obviously you haven't eaten the itallian out here (most of it IS fast food):monkey: and, in case you haven't noticed most Americans don't drive V8s... I blame global warming on reindeer "emissions" anyhow.

Back to the subject at hand..

I have no idea what the problem is with your 026 then... Millions of inboard clutches don't have your problem. I service a lot of saws, and, outside of the clutch shoe contact area there is alwsys a ridge of junk, but the shoes keep the contact area clean. How can a film build up if it's rubbed off every time you rev the saw? If your clutch is running at idle, then I suspect you have a bad drum and/or bearing, or you shoes/spider are worn.


Just because you clutch looks dirty behind the covers doesn't make it work worse.. just like the air cleaner - it doesn't have to look clean to work well... but I wont go there as I see you are re-Pete'ing that with Thall:cheers:
 
It wasn't me, well durn your no fun at all,grrrrrrrrrrrrr,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:


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Tom......this is your father speaking.
Let your conscience be your guide.
 
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Wowza!!!!!!! Petey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Back to the subject at hand..

I have no idea what the problem is with your 026 then... Millions of inboard clutches don't have your problem. I service a lot of saws, and, outside of the clutch shoe contact area there is alwsys a ridge of junk, but the shoes keep the contact area clean. How can a film build up if it's rubbed off every time you rev the saw? If your clutch is running at idle, then I suspect you have a bad drum and/or bearing, or you shoes/spider are worn.


Just because you clutch looks dirty behind the covers doesn't make it work worse.. just like the air cleaner - it doesn't have to look clean to work well... but I wont go there as I see you are re-Pete'ing that with Thall:cheers:

uuuraahhhh!!!!

Now ya went and done it Peter,,, Ya made my usually quiet and reserved little buddy perk up and one thing he said about the idler/hub brought to mind a few questions,,,, Did you buy that 026 new?????? the very fact that it's model # starts with an 0 says its approching antique status,,,,, is that clutch/drum/bearing the one that came on it???? I don't know the whole story on your saw..... but it stands to reason if it's the original cutting drive apparatus that came on it and you came by the saw second hand,,,,,,, It has probably cut more feaking wood than you could ever use in the next twenty years and if it could talk it would probably tell you where to get off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for raggin on it,,,, clutches on 20+ year old saws have been known to fail,, in fact they are supposed to wear out,,,, eventually

I'm glad you like your new modern Huskies and I would assume there is something amiss with your clutch setup on your older Stihl saw and could be wore slap out heck it happens but I am starting to wonder about your mechanic/ diagnostic skills from the descriptions I hearing,,,,,

But I could be wrong........................:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: BTW if your tired of that old Stihl,,,, box it up and send it to me!!!!! Ill fix it for ya if it can be fixed and send it back to ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Tom......this is your father speaking.
Let your conscience be your guide.

:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: , you aint right Manual, ya just aint right, funny though, thats why I like sparring wit ya.....
 
Why is it I am treated like Rodney Dangerfield ?

LOL, I didn't know who Rodney Dangerfield was, so googled it and got your point though.

Dang Manual, you're a stubborn ole cuss but the stuff you pulled with Thall's 262 shows you're a fella who knows his stuff :rockn:

Now back to normal programming : I personally would take a 346XP over a 260 anytime. I choose my battles :givebeer: :givebeer: (the one I can win, hehe..)
 
LOL, I didn't know who Rodney Dangerfield was, so googled it and got your point though.

Dang Manual, you're a stubborn ole cuss but the stuff you pulled with Thall's 262 shows you're a fella who knows his stuff :rockn:

Now back to normal programming : I personally would take a 346XP over a 260 anytime. I choose my battles :givebeer: :givebeer: (the one I can win, hehe..)

Whats that written in yeller there. Let me get my specs on. Ok let me look at it now, YIKESSSSSSSSSSS. Oh my I gotta get on the Lisa Marie and go save a fallen hero. No doubt Peter and Manual have tortured poor Belgian and they are using him as their tool. Hang on Belgian, I'm coming to save you from those heathens, hang in there ole boy, help is on the way,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
Hi Thall,

a bit irony can't hurt can it? The 290 is the most hated and discussed boat anchor on AS. That people buy them is a miracle and I must say I will never understand why. My only explanation is the one further down. I'm definately not calling Stihl as brand POS. They have many many good saws. The 361 and 441 for example, the 450 and 480 clearing saws. The 026 was also a very good saw but time cathes up....The only thing I have said is the 346/353 are both light much much better than the 260 without being more expensive! The second thing I’ve said is that I think the 290 is not one heck of a performer... The Husky 455 is also an anchor if that makes you feel better.

I wouldn't count on sales figures when judging a brand. People nowdays tend to buy crap, cheap crap. Same with power tools. People buy the 10$ Chinese made drilling machine at Lowes, not the Bosch or DeWalt 300$ machine. Skoda sells more cars than Ferrari, Stihl more saws than Husky, that doesn’t mean that Skoda is better than the Ferrari or that Stihl should be better than Husky, rather the other way around.

+1

I think you are right all the way, this time......:cheers:
 
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I think you are right all the way, this time......:cheers:

He isn't right on anything but he will be proven right about all these crap saws he says people buy as soon as he tells me who is Husky's biggest customer. I'll give him a hint, its the same outfit that sells all those crap saws he's talking about, the outfit that does more business with Husky than any other. Then I want to see Peter wiggle out of his own words,LOLOL

(Sawtroll relax, I likes Peter, we fuss together real good)
 
Whats that written in yeller there. Let me get my specs on. Ok let me look at it now, YIKESSSSSSSSSSS. Oh my I gotta get on the Lisa Marie and go save a fallen hero. No doubt Peter and Manual have tortured poor Belgian and they are using him as their tool. Hang on Belgian, I'm coming to save you from those heathens, hang in there ole boy, help is on the way,:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

That's a mighty fine offer of you there brother Thall, I'll keep the belgian beers ready for ya (Tant no folgers over here, and we ain't missin it either :cheers: ...)

All kidding aside, that 346 looks a very pruty saw to me, + Troll has given his benediction over its specs, so it must be a tough one to beat. I have a few 242XP's and I would not trade them for any Stihl in its class. The 260 is a rock solid saw for sure, but everyone agrees it needs an upgrade to the 261.
Untill that happens, I'd vote for that Husky :help: :help:
 
He isn't right on anything but he will be proven right about all these crap saws he says people buy as soon as he tells me who is Husky's biggest customer. I'll give him a hint, its the same outfit that sells all those crap saws he's talking about, the outfit that does more business with Husky than any other. Then I want to see Peter wiggle out of his own words,LOLOL

(Sawtroll relax, I likes Peter, we fuss together real good)

Not to worry Thall,,, He must be over medicated!!!!!! :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 

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