New Skidsteer! Tracks or Tires??

[gink595]

I just now got a skid steer it is a m600 bobcat I like it small gets in anywhere and seems to get done what I need. I had to put a new motor conversion vangaurd 35 hp but for a 70s model it kicks. Anyone ever use one, it is bob tach and I was wondering if new attachments fit?

I'm thinking the older stuff is different, If you want to take measurements I check and see what mine are I have a 2001, but I believe they are different until somewhere in the late 80's early nintys. Most manufactures use the same quick attach now, I have ran many different brands of attachments.

 

[gink595]

Not trying to piss anyone off but,smoothness and not ripping the hell out of things is in the hands (and feet) of the operator. Same with a dozer,excavator or any other piece of equipment.

Oh I see, quote me and then say your not trying to piss me off, LOL.

No I agree, you learn real fast when to go like hell and when to back way off and drive like your in a tractor. You can make a lot of extra work for yourselff real quick.

 

[ropensaddle]

I'm thinking the older stuff is different, If you want to take measurements I check and see what mine are I have a 2001, but I believe they are different until somewhere in the late 80's early nintys. Most manufactures use the same quick attach now, I have ran many different brands of attachments.

That would be my luck it has the auxiliary kit lines plugged but there so was going to put a grapple of some sort on it. I may just use the bucket that is on it and build my own grapple if the attachments wont fit.

 

[super3]

I concur. If you insist on making tight turns you will have a hell of a mess no matter what. Gradual turns, or drive in back out and avoiding wheel or track slip are the key. I was just saying that the tracks with the smoother wider shoe make shallower impressions on the ground. Operator care is still required, a greenhorn in a skid can do more damage than good.
Ken

That says it all,

We demoed one from every manufacturer when we were in the market for our first track machine,all but New Holland which were not available yet, there is a lot of differance in the 2 styles of tracks as far as how easy it was to tear up the ground or grass as well as differances in in opperation of 2 machines from the same manufacturer of larger or smaller size.
The style tracks on Cat or ASV were the ones everyone (on my crew) liked the best as well as the smoothness of pilot controls.The suspention was sweet too.We only tested models in 60,70 and 80 HP range. Visability out the back was a big concern also.

 

[super3]

Oh I see, quote me and then say your not trying to piss me off, LOL.

No I agree, you learn real fast when to go like hell and when to back way off and drive like your in a tractor. You can make a lot of extra work for yourselff real quick.

Sorry buddy:hmm3grin2orange:

A lot of times it just doesn't matter if things get all tore up. If it's all getting reshaped anyway,what's the diff.

 

[redprospector]

That says it all,

We demoed one from every manufacturer when we were in the market for our first track machine,all but New Holland which were not available yet, there is a lot of differance in the 2 styles of tracks as far as how easy it was to tear up the ground or grass as well as differances in in opperation of 2 machines from the same manufacturer of larger or smaller size.
The style tracks on Cat or ASV were the ones everyone (on my crew) liked the best as well as the smoothness of pilot controls.The suspention was sweet too.We only tested models in 60,70 and 80 HP range. Visability out the back was a big concern also.

My old ASV 4810 is real hard to see out the back of, so I put a "back up camera" in it. The screen has a button for "mirror image" on it, so it's just like backing up a truck using the mirrors.
My neck and shoulders feel a lot better since I installed this, and I'll never have another skidsteer without one.

Andy

 

[gink595]

My old ASV 4810 is real hard to see out the back of, so I put a "back up camera" in it. The screen has a button for "mirror image" on it, so it's just like backing up a truck using the mirrors.
My neck and shoulders feel a lot better since I installed this, and I'll never have another skidsteer without one.

Andy

I've been looking at doing someting like that also, a buddy has them on his combine and grain wagon tractor so you can see all angles, works really slick. The Bobcats are terrible for rear visibility I was in a New Holland recently and was really impressed with the side and rear view it had, kinda made me jealous!!

 

[gink595]

Sorry buddy:hmm3grin2orange:

A lot of times it just doesn't matter if things get all tore up. If it's all getting reshaped anyway,what's the diff.

Yup for what I do it never matters how bad I tear it up, the only time I give a chat is when I'm doing something for someone in there grass area, but normally it's fence row clearing and moving logs.

 

[SINGLE-JACK]

Ice

One more consideration: ICE! Rubber tires or rubber tracks don't work on ICE! So, if you have to deal with ice get chains for your tires or steel tracks. Don't know which is better on ice, chains or tracks.

Here's mine with tires and 3/8 chains (on the back):
View attachment 102996

 

[redprospector]

It's hard to beat chain's on ice, but anything that's good on ice will tear up pavement with a skidsteer.
I had a set of the chain type track's on my 863 first, and they weren't too bad on ice. But like most track's you didn't want to get sidehill. I replaced them with a set of real over the tire track's, but they had a real smooth, wide pad and were terrible on ice. I blew holes in the pad's and installed 3/8" bolt's in the holes, and then it was great on ice, but they reaked havoc on asphalt.

Andy

 

[skidsteer.ca]

I just now got a skid steer it is a m600 bobcat I like it small gets in anywhere and seems to get done what I need. I had to put a new motor conversion vangaurd 35 hp but for a 70s model it kicks. Anyone ever use one, it is bob tach and I was wondering if new attachments fit?

http://www.skidsteerforum.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=54&frmView=ShowPost&PostID=26410
There you go.
I think the quick attach is the same on all but the smallest bobcats , they had a style change up. But to my knowledge the bigger one bobcat pioneered and only the other manufacturers changed over to bobcats style.
ken

 

[ropensaddle]

http://www.skidsteerforum.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=54&frmView=ShowPost&PostID=26410
There you go.
I think the quick attach is the same on all but the smallest bobcats , they had a style change up. But to my knowledge the bigger one bobcat pioneered and only the other manufacturers changed over to bobcats style.
ken

Thanks I thought they may fit I have got to build up my pins with weld and grind them they are wore out and the bucket comes loose when back dragging sometimes. I shot some paint on it and have been using it some but got to get a grapple. It has the auxiliary package lines capped I was wondering if I need a control valve or if the foot pedal would work the grapple?
I will likely make the grapple as the price for them is taller than the trees I trim.

 

[skidsteer.ca]

Trace the aux hyd hoses back they are either hooked to "the" valve or hanging in the wind.
No idea how bobcat did the aux hyd back then. But you could ask at the skidsteer forum. lots of 600 series owner there.
Ken

 

[redprospector]

Thanks I thought they may fit I have got to build up my pins with weld and grind them they are wore out and the bucket comes loose when back dragging sometimes. I shot some paint on it and have been using it some but got to get a grapple. It has the auxiliary package lines capped I was wondering if I need a control valve or if the foot pedal would work the grapple?
I will likely make the grapple as the price for them is taller than the trees I trim.

I had a 600, & a 610 back in the day. If there is a 3rd (center) pedel then you should have an auxillary valve. You'll still need to trace the lines to make sure they're hooked up. I can't picture it having the lines, and not the valve. Unless someone took it out.

Andy

 

[ropensaddle]

I had a 600, & a 610 back in the day. If there is a 3rd (center) pedel then you should have an auxillary valve. You'll still need to trace the lines to make sure they're hooked up. I can't picture it having the lines, and not the valve. Unless someone took it out.

Andy

The valve is there and hooked up so it should operate a double acting cylinder for a grapple thumb right? I just finisked making the variable speed work a few minutes ago and now it scoots lol! Also they are open center systems right?

 

[skidsteer.ca]

Yes, open center.
I'm sure it is a double acting valve and would run a grapple cylinder.
ken