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[4675797]

Any one have any new decending tricks or tips? :msp_smile:

 

[superjunior]

you mean ASCENDING? descending is usually the easy part...

 

[ForTheArborist]

Most of the time I just use the figure of 8, and rappel out of there.

 

[4675797]

Sorry I men't acendiing/descending tricks

 

[Grace Tree]

Do a search here and on youtube for Rope Wrench, Unicender, Lockjack, Wraptor. That's some of the mechanical stuff. If you have more specific questions after that, ask away.
Phil

 

[ForTheArborist]

youtube spiderjackery II

 

[Carburetorless]

Any one have any new decending tricks or tips? :msp_smile:

It's nothing new, but I like to use a couple of Bachmans to ascend. The top one is used like a chest ascender, while the other has a foot sling attached to it so I do a sit/stand type of ascent.

When I'm ready to come down I clip into a carabiner and rappel, or just reverse the sit/stand ascent into a stand/sit descent.

1/2" rope
7mm prusik chord
Spring loaded gate/Screw locking collared carabiners

 

[ddhlakebound]

It's nothing new, but I like to use a couple of Bachmans to ascend. The top one is used like a chest ascender, while the other has a foot sling attached to it so I do a sit/stand type of ascent.

When I'm ready to come down I clip into a carabiner and rappel, or just reverse the sit/stand ascent into a stand/sit descent.

1/2" rope
7mm prusik chord
Spring loaded gate/Screw locking collared carabiners

Simply as an FYI, screw lock biners are not up to standards. All life support biners should be triple action, and for good reason. Not because the ANSI will arrest you, but because the ground will arrest you if your screw lock unexpectedly opens.

 

[Carburetorless]

Simply as an FYI, screw lock biners are not up to standards. All life support biners should be triple action, and for good reason. Not because the ANSI will arrest you, but because the ground will arrest you if your screw lock unexpectedly opens.

O.K. Dad.

What type of device do you recommend?

 

[roelex14]

O.K. Dad.

What type of device do you recommend?

its all fun and games till someone...

 

[ForTheArborist]

For long hauls up, I would ride an SRT line up with a double handle ascender to pull up on. Then I'd use a pantene on one foot. Maybe add a second pantene with a bungi cord attached to keep this one coming upp.

I might place a prussic on the SRT, and attach a DRT system to it with a spiderjack or lock jack.

I don't have the spider or lock jack. I don't have the pantenes. I do use a one handle ascender on my SRT. BTW the SRT is the fastest way up. I also use an ascender with a homemade stirrup on it. And attaching a prussic on the line with a pulley attached to it so I can DRT off that is not much too handle.

I'm a big fan of the RADS system too.

 

[ddhlakebound]

For long hauls up, I would ride an SRT line up with a double handle ascender to pull up on. Then I'd use a pantene on one foot. Maybe add a second pantene with a bungi cord attached to keep this one coming upp.

I might place a prussic on the SRT, and attach a DRT system to it with a spiderjack or lock jack.

I don't have the spider or lock jack. I don't have the pantenes. I do use a one handle ascender on my SRT. BTW the SRT is the fastest way up. I also use an ascender with a homemade stirrup on it. And attaching a prussic on the line with a pulley attached to it so I can DRT off that is not much too handle.

I'm a big fan of the RADS system too.

Ed, I've been trying really hard to avoid hackin on ya, but jeez man, you just make it to ez.

You use shampoo on your feet while your climbing? And how in the heck do you attach a bungi to the shampoo?

Next, when you're combining your SRT and your DRT, doesn't that equal a TRT? (triple rope tech) Innovative man, you're coming up with stuff that's never even been dreamed of.

Honestly man, you've been here years, and you obviously still don't understand how to talk about climbing systems. It makes us think that you don't understand the climbing systems, and therefore are a danger to yourself and anyone that you attempt to "educate".

Please, for the good of mankind, get with the program. As much as I enjoy flipping you crap, I'd feel really bad to hear that you got yourself seriously hurt, or worse.

 

[ForTheArborist]

Ed, I've been trying really hard to avoid hackin on ya, but jeez man, you just make it to ez.

You use shampoo on your feet while your climbing? And how in the heck do you attach a bungi to the shampoo?

Next, when you're combining your SRT and your DRT, doesn't that equal a TRT? (triple rope tech) Innovative man, you're coming up with stuff that's never even been dreamed of.

Honestly man, you've been here years, and you obviously still don't understand how to talk about climbing systems. It makes us think that you don't understand the climbing systems, and therefore are a danger to yourself and anyone that you attempt to "educate".

Please, for the good of mankind, get with the program. As much as I enjoy flipping you crap, I'd feel really bad to hear that you got yourself seriously hurt, or worse.

Oh, that's just how I hurt myself. Wait. I'll get into how I really work.

....without hands.....or feet.

 

[ForTheArborist]

http://www.arboristsite.com/commercial-tree-care-climbing/118676.htm

 

[Tree Pig]

O.K. Dad.

What type of device do you recommend?

dude seriously, you are obviously clueless and someone gives you a legit answer to the question, with your safety in mind and thats the way you respond... by the way one of the main reasons screw locks are a no no, it has been proven that on top of several other action that can unintentionally unlock them, just the simple act of the rope running across the gate on a ascent or decent can unscrew them. Next stop is your dumb ass on the ground. If you knew so much then you would not be here asking would you?

 

[ForTheArborist]

dude seriously, you are obviously clueless and someone gives you a legit answer to your question, with your safety in mind and thats the way you respond... by the way one of the main reasons screw locks are a no no, it has been proven that on top of several other action that can unintentionally unlock them, just the simple act of the rope running across the gate on a ascent or decent can unscrew them. Next stop is your dumb ass on the ground. If you knew so much then you would not be here asking would you?

I have a re-occurring nightmare about this, and the best part of the dream is that no one in the county sells triple lock biners. I wake up in shock............and mad.

 

[sgreanbeans]

They sell them all over SD. They sell alot more online.

 

[superjunior]

dude seriously, you are obviously clueless and someone gives you a legit answer to your question, with your safety in mind and thats the way you respond... by the way one of the main reasons screw locks are a no no, it has been proven that on top of several other action that can unintentionally unlock them, just the simple act of the rope running across the gate on a ascent or decent can unscrew them. Next stop is your dumb ass on the ground. If you knew so much then you would not be here asking would you?

I used to use screw locks for a couple different things, one of which was attaching my saw to the saw strap. Last season I noticed it was loosening up on its own and one day while trimming a locust I reached for my saw and it was gone. I looked around and it was stuck in a limb about 20 ft away - didn't make it to the ground luckily. I don't use screw locks any more for anything.

 

[Carburetorless]

dude seriously, you are obviously clueless and someone gives you a legit answer to the question, with your safety in mind and thats the way you respond...

I didn't ask a question, so how did anyone give me an answer to one???

by the way one of the main reasons screw locks are a no no, it has been proven that on top of several other action that can unintentionally unlock them, just the simple act of the rope running across the gate on a ascent or decent can unscrew them.

The rope can't run across the gate on a Bachman, if it did it wouldn't unlock the collar, let alone open the gate, and allow all of the raps to come out.

I place the mouth of the gate facing down, if the gate did by some stretch of the imagination come open then only the first rap would come out leaving me 3 more since I always use 4 raps on the top Bachman.

Next stop is your dumb ass on the ground. If you knew so much then you would not be here asking would you?

You really should pay closer attention to who you're replying to, cause I'm not the one asking the question in this post. Not only that, but just because someone asks a question doesn't mean they're a dumb ass by default. You moron!

 

[Carburetorless]

I used to use screw locks for a couple different things, one of which was attaching my saw to the saw strap. Last season I noticed it was loosening up on its own and one day while trimming a locust I reached for my saw and it was gone. I looked around and it was stuck in a limb about 20 ft away - didn't make it to the ground luckily. I don't use screw locks any more for anything.

I have 4 different types of biners, biners with spring loaded gate only, biners with only a screw collar for a gate, biners with a spring loaded gate and a spring loaded locking collar, and biners with a spring loaded gate and a screw type locking collar.

The biners with spring loaded gate and the screw type locking collar are the ones I use for my Bachmans. They're also the most reliable biners I've used.

If anyone knows of a better biner, please enlighten me.