Juha
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I pulled the muffler. It does have the thick rings.
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Juha
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I couldn't find the recommended max rpm for my 3800, so unless someone has a number for me, I will try tune it by ear tomorrow (four-stroking method). Erroneously believing the new-to-me saw was a 3700, I set it at 8000rpm (little lower than spec), but i wouldn't count on 3800 being the same.
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Using the 4 stroke method is the best way to tune ur saw. Willing to bet it will end up higher than 8,000rpm. Thats way too fat. I'm assuming ur referring to out of the cut.
Juha
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Yeah, i watched some youtube video where it was explained how to adjust out of the cut. So i will do that.
I was going to bring that up too. Grey 3.7 are almost always a 3800 bare bore unless a past owner has changed them.
Like above in Tim's pic, but what you will see by just pulling front cover.
Top 3.7 = 3800
Bottom 3.7 = 3700
Like above in Tim's pic, but what you will see by just pulling front cover.
Top 3.7 = 3800
Bottom 3.7 = 3700
I had one come in like this for work. I sold him a air filter and ran new lines.
Whole thread on the poulan board of just the blue decal 3.3 http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/craftsman-3-3-sears-best/
Someone was looking for choke linkage and throttle linkage for poulan 3400 3700 3800 4000 saws. Plus their cousins
It's good to have spares like those no matter the make or model of saw. FWIW, you can't have too many extra parts that are easy to lose or hard to see. See where I'm going with that one? LOL. Nice Craftsman/Poulan pieces, grab 'em while you can. Max.
Juha
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Today was the first real field test for the Craftsman/3800, after restoring the saw (this is from a homeowner occasional user perspective).
I think the saw worked flawlessly, after tuning in the high needle.
It was definitely faster and more powerful than my brand-new Husky 440e.
But the 3800 is heavy! At least, when compared to the Husky. But they worked well together. I used the 3800 for felling, then the Husky for limbing, and then back to the 3800 for cutting down to firewood length.
The 3800 definitely uses way more gas than the Husky, no suprise there.
The idle stayed solid all day, and it always started easily. Except for when it ran out of gas and didn't want to start after refill. I need to figure out how to do that. I let it sit for a while, while using the Husky, and when I tried to start it later, it started just fine.
I believe the bar oil feed was fine. Anytime i added gas, i also added a fair amount of oil. Never noticed any sign of lack of oil on the bar.
I think the saw worked flawlessly, after tuning in the high needle.
It was definitely faster and more powerful than my brand-new Husky 440e.
But the 3800 is heavy! At least, when compared to the Husky. But they worked well together. I used the 3800 for felling, then the Husky for limbing, and then back to the 3800 for cutting down to firewood length.
The 3800 definitely uses way more gas than the Husky, no suprise there.
The idle stayed solid all day, and it always started easily. Except for when it ran out of gas and didn't want to start after refill. I need to figure out how to do that. I let it sit for a while, while using the Husky, and when I tried to start it later, it started just fine.
I believe the bar oil feed was fine. Anytime i added gas, i also added a fair amount of oil. Never noticed any sign of lack of oil on the bar.
Shouldn't really let it run out. Not real good for a saw they lean out
Juha
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Ok, thanks, i didn't know it was bad. I did keep topping off through the day, but i guess i waited too long that one time.
Btw, i was using 50:1 full synthetic gas. That's what the Husky uses, and i didn't want two different mixes. Maybe 40:1 is better? Certainly not the 16:1 the manual calls for, that must be for -80's oil quality
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Ok, thanks, i didn't know it was bad. I did keep topping off through the day, but i guess i waited too long that one time.
Btw, i was using 50:1 full synthetic gas. That's what the Husky uses, and i didn't want two different mixes. Maybe 40:1 is better? Certainly not the 16:1 the manual calls for, that must be for -80's oil quality
50 probably fine. Yeah running out is not going to kill it but should be avoided really also better for the starter pulley not getting a million pulls on it every time it gets re fueled
I know another guy has killed a saw not hearing it run out n screaming for a bit. Was a Mac in that instance a much higher compression 82cc. It probably kept picking up enough fuel to keep running for a while and was very lean. I would imagine the thick ring bare bore poulans are probably a bit more hardy at dealing with that. I certainly feel sad every time I hear my 4000 go lean with no gas
Tank vent may be no good if its difficult to resart after refueling.
He needs a bowsaw handle. Told they were different.
Juha
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Ok, thanks, I will take a look at the vent.
http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/craftsman-poulan-3-7-questioni/msg72706/#msg72706
Poulan missed the fuel tank vent detail & parts callout in their 3400 series IPLs, we’ll never know why....
Same idea on this one. But i use oem echo line.
This was a 3.3 which is little different since it tucks behin the carb instead of back topof tank like on 34 etc. Guy on the chainsaw repair group FB I was having to show the difference in the older tank and updated tank later tank vents.
= For the guy asking about how the tank vents were. This is the older style used with the 2 line tanks. That will be pulled to inside of tank to top. Extra tucked around carb.
I changed my username here to my shop name. Just so you know it still me.
Yesterday working on a black gold 3.3 bare bore that a circlip got loose and locked up. Ruined the p+c. So I cleaned the crankcase flushing and air pressure like I do every time on this. But some how I missed one piece of the broken up circlip.
So the new used 3300 bare bore I put on it and was running for a second also got ruined.
Now here is my question for the poulan brain trust. Going through my parts saws. I found a green poulan with wide muffler case with small 335 3300 bolt pattern in chrome bore 54cc. What green poulan 54cc chrome bore with small bolt pattern, impulse in the case, wide muffler was there. I cant recall myself this saw.
So for now this chrome bore is going on this black gold 3.3. The topend kit is just like the blue black 3.3 and red predator 335. But this was on a green poulan with wide muffler case.
@3000 FPS thoughts? I know we have figured out some saws in past.
Yesterday working on a black gold 3.3 bare bore that a circlip got loose and locked up. Ruined the p+c. So I cleaned the crankcase flushing and air pressure like I do every time on this. But some how I missed one piece of the broken up circlip.
So the new used 3300 bare bore I put on it and was running for a second also got ruined.
Now here is my question for the poulan brain trust. Going through my parts saws. I found a green poulan with wide muffler case with small 335 3300 bolt pattern in chrome bore 54cc. What green poulan 54cc chrome bore with small bolt pattern, impulse in the case, wide muffler was there. I cant recall myself this saw.
So for now this chrome bore is going on this black gold 3.3. The topend kit is just like the blue black 3.3 and red predator 335. But this was on a green poulan with wide muffler case.
@3000 FPS thoughts? I know we have figured out some saws in past.
