So, here's one of my 4000's. I've been searching for years for a 3400-4000 full wrap handle and finally located one in Canada. I had to grab it, and yes it may have been a CAD moment. Remember, CAD comes in many shapes and forms. I have a friend on AS and elsewhere (you know who you are!) who has a NOS one he wisely hangs on to, but who provided me pictures years ago that fully began the addiction/drive to find one. I like the way it looks and feels, but need to put it in wood to really learn about performance.