No More Heating With Firewood In New York?

[SS396driver]

the "loud exhaust" bill was just introduced in 2021. usually inspoections didn't bother checking if you had glass packs, or even no mufflers on a motorcycle. Now it mandatory in order to pass.

Has always been part of the inspection process has it been enforced no . Any modification is and has been illegal by state and federal law for the past 20 years . This law increases the fines for excessively noisy exhausted. So what is excessively noisy?

This amendment increases the fines nothing else

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/go...wn-noisy-illegal-mufflers-and-exhaust-systems
Interesting read about the myths and facts of what it does. The amendment deals with straight pipes cutouts and cat /muffler deletes.

https://www.semasan.com/legislative...vs-fiction-new-york-exhaust-noise-legislation

 

[ericm979]

I believe the ban will be on new wood heating devices being sold in the future Not already in use just like California's law .

It's only some of the more urban counties and cities in California that restrict putting in new wood burning appliances. There is no state wide ban or restriction.

I'd carefully read the NY statute before getting too worked up about it. A lot of journalists mis understand these things or exaggerate them to get people wound up.

 

[SS396driver]

It's like all these people wanting solar or wind power no fossil fuel . But dont realise how many buildings in NYC depend on steam generated by Con Edisons power plants to heat them . So now your throwing more buildings into the grid . Can you imagine thde electrical power needed to heat them .

It's been on the news that they have been granting exceptions to the natural gas hook ups in NYC there has been a moratorium in place far longer than the law that's been signed

 

[Mustang71]

The wife says we can't move out of NY until the kids grow up and they aren't very old at the moment. The county I live in doesn't enforce much of the nonsense and I'm rural so everyone is going to keep burning wood. Now if I lived in erie county the county I work in I'd expect a lot more strictness on dumb rules. Also if your auto mechanic is a car guy then I'm sure he won't care about loud exhaust or tinted windows for inspection.

 

[ericm979]

The NY statute says absolutely nothing about burning wood. It says that a way to measure emissions will be proposed in 2022 and a plan to reduce emissions in 2024. Now maybe the people from WYRK who wrote the article have some other knowledge that the plan for the plan includes banning wood burning, but the only link they provide is to the statute which says nothing about wood burning. So I'm guessing they're just trying to wind people up to get more clicks. There's a lot of that in today's media environment.

 

[Mustang71]

The NY statute says absolutely nothing about burning wood. It says that a way to measure emissions will be proposed in 2022 and a plan to reduce emissions in 2024. Now maybe the people from WYRK who wrote the article have some other knowledge that the plan for the plan includes banning wood burning, but the only link they provide is to the statute which says nothing about wood burning. So I'm guessing they're just trying to wind people up to get more clicks. There's a lot of that in today's media environment.

I live in the listening area of wyrk and take what they say with a grain of salt. Its another pop country station pretending to be country and relate to the rural living people. And yes its all media attention like everything else.

 

[Counselor]

No gas. I think they recently passed or at least proposed a no new gas stove---cooking, connection law. They'll come for all of it sooner or later.....it's what they do.

These people are Communists. They want to destroy everything. The worse it gets, the better for them. You will be starving in the dark freezing your ass off if they have their way. It's that simple.

 

[AKoz]

Here's an article that gives a less sensational explanation of what may or may not happen:

Climate Action Council study

 

[onedash]

Trees are carbon neutral. When they die and decay they release the C02 that was removed back into the air. No more or less. It is the same when they are burned. I will agree one may occur at a faster rate than the other but who cares.

Properly managed pasture captures the most carbon yet politicians want to spend trillions on something that will never come close

 

[Kenskip1]

What a bunch of Bull ****. I lived in Oneida County for 20 years I will guess that 25% of the rural homes heat with wood. This law will never be enacted. This is what the good people of NY have to listen to the jack asses they voted for. In Rome NY there are numerous business that heat with wood and (ready for this) waste oil. I heated with a Vermont Casting Vigilant for many years. And if I was still living there this could turn ugly. How about all the chain saw dealers? I can name three right off the bat. This bill is total baloney. Supposed the electric power plant went down in February. What's next, taxing the farmers foe the fluctuance produced buy the cows?

 

[Mustang71]

No gas. I think they recently passed or at least proposed a no new gas stove---cooking, connection law. They'll come for all of it sooner or later.....it's what they do.

These people are Communists. They want to destroy everything. The worse it gets, the better for them. You will be starving in the dark freezing your ass off if they have their way. It's that simple.

What you mean to say is many New Yorkers will be loading up. They have restricted our ammo buying online so thats an issue. But i would like to know who is going to enforce any of the nonsense. The police won't. A good portion of NY is republican outside of NYC. Do you really think the police will show up in a rural area to remove fire arms? Swat team 1 house at a time lol they are not dumb. I'm one of those unvax "5 percent" of NY adults. Come take my stove and my freedom...

 

[Counselor]

The article says they intend to reduce wood use by 40% in a rather short time frame

Here's an article that gives a less sensational explanation of what may or may not happen:

Climate Action Council study

It acknowledges that people are heating with wood because it's the least expensive alternative. There are NO green energy alternatives that even come close on cost. Of course we know that the 40% figure is ultimately a lie, it's like everything else they do, just the tip....we promise...

They have acknowledged-- the government, that inflation is in excess of 6%-- much higher on things people actually buy--food and energy, and that it is no longer "transitory"....I remember the Stagflation of the 70s and 80s....

Starving while freezing your butt off in the dark is the end result.....

 

[Counselor]

They shut down the entire economy for over a year. Do you really think they care about a stove maker and three small businesses selling saws?

What a bunch of Bull ****. I lived in Oneida County for 20 years I will guess that 25% of the rural homes heat with wood. This law will never be enacted. This is what the good people of NY have to listen to the jack asses they voted for. In Rome NY there are numerous business that heat with wood and (ready for this) waste oil. I heated with a Vermont Casting Vigilant for many years. And if I was still living there this could turn ugly. How about all the chain saw dealers? I can name three right off the bat. This bill is total baloney. Supposed the electric power plant went down in February. What's next, taxing the farmers foe the fluctuance produced buy the cows?

 

[ROME K/G]

They should ban all jet airliners then too, look at all the pollution they put in the atmosphere. Oh thats right "out of sight out of mind". Remember how clear the skies were after 911?

 

[InTheNorth]

What you mean to say is many New Yorkers will be loading up. They have restricted our ammo buying online so thats an issue. But i would like to know who is going to enforce any of the nonsense. The police won't. A good portion of NY is republican outside of NYC. Do you really think the police will show up in a rural area to remove fire arms? Swat team 1 house at a time lol they are not dumb. I'm one of those unvax "5 percent" of NY adults. Come take my stove and my freedom...

Hats off to all the unvaxxed freedom fighters!!! All 5% of them.....what happened to when men fought against tyranny and placed their God given freedom above everything. Now they roll over on their backs and do nothing as long as the wife lets them get a new saw occasionally and a six pack on Friday night. I don't want my family, home, cars, toys or even my life if it doesn't come with freedom

 

[mountainguyed67]

New York is the next commiefornia, Gross.

Funny that you don’t think it’s there yet...

 

[mountainguyed67]

just like California's law .

You mean California’s upcoming (In two years) small engine law?

 

[Drifter2406]

Interesting consider that the UK is a large importer of Amazon rain forest to power their electric generation grid. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22630815#:~:text=Environmentalists are trying to block the expansion of,help keep the lights on in the UK.

No, no, you don't get it, we are doing everything to be environmentally friendly, how it works is, get someone else to cut it down and then send it to us so we can burn it and that's ok because quite a few people don't know it's happening, then we go on telly bigging ourselves up because the government has promised to plant 3 million trees over the coming years and all the world looks and see's how green we are. What BS.

 

[Drifter2406]

One of the laws here states that depending on where you live we have to buy certain wood burners which are apparently better for the environment, they are a couple of hundred quid dearer than the others, funny that aint it?

 

[Mustang71]

I'm an all electric house already minus my lp furnace which doesn't run much. My electric bill is 3 times people who have natural gas. If i had electric heat you are talking 1000 dollars a month for a electric bill. Im sure a heat pump would cut that price in half but still the wood is free. The ash trees are all dead and had to come down.

Also there's a bill waiting to be signed that would allow the state to imprison anyone without a trial who is deemed a health threat. Aka the unvaccinated. If you don't comply you go to jail, sounds like communism.