FourMoCajuns
ArboristSite Operative
Sure it cuts like mad in clean stuff but ANY debri of any sort just kills it. I am going back to semi-chisel.
Not a fan of chisel chain.
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I've been running Carlton A1EP semi-chisel and takes a beating ...
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THALL10326
The Champ
Awwwwwwwwwww you've found out what eveyone finds out sooner or later. Clean wood its great, dirty wood, not worth two cents...
I have a hard time staying out of the dirt all the time yet my semi chisel stays sharp. I have yet to drop a tree and it not drive parts of it into the ground even if the limb stays parallel to the ground.
Define clean wood also please. Or am I just picky?
Define clean wood also please. Or am I just picky?
THALL10326
The Champ
Clean wood is a tree standing. Dirty wood is a tree or log thats been dragged out the woods to be blocked up later. Its covered in mud and lord knows what all from being dragged across the ground. Square chisel chain does awesome in clean wood but run it in some dirt or into mud caked on a log and it slows to a crawl real quick.
FourMoCajuns
ArboristSite Operative
Real quick means instantly!:censored:
FourMoCajuns
ArboristSite Operative
Well I had 3 brand new in the box semi chisel's and traded them to the dealer for 3 chisels. Dumbas$! My last sc flew off the bar and it messed up the guides so it doesn't fit in the bar grooves anymore.
Well I don't deal with trees that have been drug anywhere but it is hard to say what I can get into.
I did have some semi chisel in the dirt today fairly good and it held its edge. Put it back into a chunk of wood and it threw chips like it did before.
I did have some semi chisel in the dirt today fairly good and it held its edge. Put it back into a chunk of wood and it threw chips like it did before.
FourMoCajuns
ArboristSite Operative
I believe if you showed a picture of dirt to a chisel chain it would dull it!
clearance
Addicted to ArboristSite
File the burrs off the drivers with a raker file, it works.
FourMoCajuns
ArboristSite Operative
I tried with a dremel but will try the raker file.
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
Or black cottonwood that's perfectly clean but has sucked sand up into the wood..grrr...
I have been using Bailey's Woodsman Pro 30SC (Carlton). I wish all I was cutting was clean green wood but it ain't so. Holds up a heck of a lot better than the Oregon did for me. Bailey's charges $.20 per drive link for it and for the skip version.
B_Turner
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Seems like around here big madrones only grow where the soil is very sandy and just like a picnic the sand seems to be everywhere. Including grown into the lower portion of the tree and roots. Brutal.
I hate cutting up big trees that have been handled by large machines and hauled as the jaws seem to grind in bit of rock that can't even be brushed off. Couple of years ago I was harvesting a load of oak blocks from several large stumps in a municpal dump and if I hadn't dirven over a hundred miles to get there, I would have packed up and gone home after rocking my fifth chain in probably 20 minutes. Luckily I always bring bags of chains.
I hate using semi-chisel, but I always bring a bunch of it for occasions like this.
I hate cutting up big trees that have been handled by large machines and hauled as the jaws seem to grind in bit of rock that can't even be brushed off. Couple of years ago I was harvesting a load of oak blocks from several large stumps in a municpal dump and if I hadn't dirven over a hundred miles to get there, I would have packed up and gone home after rocking my fifth chain in probably 20 minutes. Luckily I always bring bags of chains.
I hate using semi-chisel, but I always bring a bunch of it for occasions like this.
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Sick joke ...My bad.... .
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stihl025
ArboristSite Guru
All this talk about chisel vs semi chisel made me look at some of my chains last night. Most of what I own from Woodsman Pro are round chisel chain (30RC and 23RC) which, for the most part, I have had no problems with. As I read the description on Bailey's site, the semi chisel chain is the best cutter type for dirty conditions although it is not as fast a regular chisel. Correct so far? I am kicking myself because most of what I cut are downed (dirty) trees for firewood. Bad choice I guess? I know that I can buy the Woodsman 30SC (instead of the 30RC) in a 3/8" pitch but what about .325? The only semi chisel I saw offered was the narrow kerf version, which I don't really want due to the amount of regular bar and chains I already own. Do they make a regular semi chisel in .325?
SawTroll
Information Collector
Allmost all my wood is clean, and start as standing green trees...
Except for the 95VP on the 353, most of the chains are chisel, and stay sharp reasonably long.
I keep a few semi-chisels in reserve, for the occational dirty wood, and stumps - but they are not used much.
Except for the 95VP on the 353, most of the chains are chisel, and stay sharp reasonably long.
I keep a few semi-chisels in reserve, for the occational dirty wood, and stumps - but they are not used much.
Diesel JD
ArboristSite Guru
I'm a firewood cutter and use round chisel on my bow guide and square chisel on my straight bar, as long as I don't cut into the dirt much and file way more than most people would it still cuts great. If I was cutting stumps or in the swamp, some semi chisel or at least round chisel might be the ticket. SC is good for these applications. As far as the .325b NK you can use it on your regular 325 bars as long as they are .050" gauge, if they are .325X.063, you're pretty much stuck with low kickback 26RM2 or if you have a Stihl dealer that will order it for you you can get 26RMC or RM (yellow label)
