Not all flip caps are created equal

[Jtheo]

I do not want another controversial thread about flip caps.

I just want to post something I discovered today.

I was in at the Stihl dealer for some parts, and I looked the 362 over.

The caps on this saw are easy to work, including the oil tank cap.

It is easy to see where the tabs fit on the opening and they go in and lock, no problem.

My bad experience was with the 211 oil tank cap. The gas cap on that saw was easy, but the oil tank opening was small ,and the proper location of the tabs was just too difficult to line up, and maybe I had a bad cap, who knows.

That said, the 362 is easy to work and I may see one in my future.

 

[DSS]

My 230 is the same, fuel cap works dandy, oil cap takes three men and a rented mule to get the SOB on.

What a pain in the crack.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

I've read that the plastic is somewhat absorbent of the oil thus making the caps swell. Some have said that shaving the caps down or cutting the edges off (ever so slightly) with a knife has made the caps work like new.

I have yet to have an issue. But if the caps start to fit tight then I'll try trimming the edges down a bit.

 

[DSS]

I've read that the plastic is somewhat absorbent of the oil thus making the caps swell. Some have said that shaving the caps down or cutting the edges off (ever so slightly) with a knife has made the caps work like new.

I have yet to have an issue. But if the caps start to fit tight then I'll try trimming the edges down a bit.

Just noticed....you're in LJ's basement ????

what's that like??????

Does he have a lot of economy sized women down there?????

 

[GASoline71]

Never... ever had a problem on any flippy cap saw I ever used.

Gary

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Just noticed....you're in LJ's basement ????

what's that like??????

Does he have a lot of economy sized women down there?????

Yeah. He keeps me locked in a cage, naked. All he gives me is a laptop for my entertainment. Each day I get a glass of water and a hand full of birdseed for food. He says I need to fast to lose weight. Why that is I don't know.

Kinda dark down here too. Sorta smells funny. I'm kinda creeped out by all these old Michael Jackson posters along with pictures of kittens with the eyes cut out. He says it's because he loves me.

Honestly I'm quite confused.


:help:

 

[FATGUY]

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?!?

 

[DSS]

Honestly I'm quite confused.


:help:

LMFAO

Aren't we all

 

[Gizzard]

Lots of flip cap saws through years at work and only one problem. Main problem was with users, but soon as they dump a tank of oil or fuel down their leg or boots they paid more attention. Replaced oil tank flip cap on one MS250. That cap wouldn't align correctly after removing it, unless you grabbed the black on underside and turned it back while holding the flip top.

I guess function or getting the job done can be done with little or lots of engineering. To each his own, when it comes to design.

 

[CentaurG2]

I do not want another controversial thread about flip caps.

I just want to post something I discovered today.

I was in at the Stihl dealer for some parts, and I looked the 362 over.

The caps on this saw are easy to work, including the oil tank cap.

It is easy to see where the tabs fit on the opening and they go in and lock, no problem.

My bad experience was with the 211 oil tank cap. The gas cap on that saw was easy, but the oil tank opening was small ,and the proper location of the tabs was just too difficult to line up, and maybe I had a bad cap, who knows.

That said, the 362 is easy to work and I may see one in my future.

You are right about the flippy caps. The oil cap on the ms200T is abysmal. Worst design ever! Since it is the only stihl I really need, I guess I am stuck with it till the new ms201T surfaces. If you hate flippy caps, the easiest solution is to just replace the offending stihl with a comparable husky or dolmar or jonserad or echo. Time is money. Flippy caps cost time and thus cost money. Boo on stihl for such a useless marketing tool to try and differentiate their saws from the competitors.

 

[GASoline71]

Seriously... there is nothing wrong with the flippy caps... just the flippy cap users.

Gary

 

[FATGUY]

Seriously... there is nothing wrong with the flippy caps... just the flippy cap users.

Gary

:agree2: I've said it before and I'll say it again.....if you can't handle the flippy caps, you shouldn't be using a saw.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

:agree2: I've said it before and I'll say it again.....if you can't handle the flippy caps, you shouldn't be using a saw.

And if you can't handle a saw then beans and carrots are what's for dinner!!!


Good god what in the hell am I talking about?!

 

[WoodChuck'r]

LMFAO

Aren't we all

There's a guy named Reed who mows his lawn. Ljute makes him speak only in cantonese and wear a black cloak with a water cask over his shoulder filled with M&Ms. The lawnmower is stored down in the basement. Ljute makes him haul the mower up and down the stairs each and every week for a good grass cutting. When the grass is cut, Ljute makes Reed eat as many M&Ms as blades of grass he cut to remind him of all the death he caused and how tasty death can be. The guy never wants to do it but he's warned that he'll end up like Bobby if he doesn't. Poor guy. At this point I'm thinking Ljute is kind of an odd ball, but I don't have enough evidence yet to be certain.

Weird.

 

[Edge & Engine]

Had a MS-280 in the shop the other day, the oil cap was fine but the fuel cap was a real pain and took several tries to get it seated. Several times I thought it was in, only to have it pop out. I'm not so sure I like that 2nd chain brake either...but that's a different story.

 

[DSS]

There's a guy named Reed who mows his lawn. Ljute makes him speak only in cantonese and wear a black cloak with a water cask over his shoulder filled with M&Ms. The lawnmower is stored down in the basement. Ljute makes him haul the mower up and down the stairs each and every week for a good grass cutting. When the grass is cut, Ljute makes Reed eat as many M&Ms as blades of grass he cut to remind him of all the death he caused and how tasty death can be. The guy never wants to do it but he's warned that he'll end up like Bobby if he doesn't. Poor guy. At this point I'm thinking Ljute is kind of an odd ball, but I don't have enough evidence yet to be certain.

Weird.

LMAO.....Dude you're starting to have some serious reality issues.:crazy1:

 

[WoodChuck'r]

LMAO.....Dude you're starting to have some serious reality issues.:crazy1:

Try living in Ljute's basement under these conditions for 11 months, 9 days, 16hrs, 29 minutes, and 54 seconds then tell me how you feel.

Gotta go. Birdseed time.

 

[oscar4883]

Seriously... there is nothing wrong with the flippy caps... just the flippy cap users.

Gary

Yup. All my flippy cap issues were caused by my own stupidity. I now constantly chant, "don't overfill the oil....don't overfill the oil...", whenever I fill up a flippy cap saw.

 

[Ljute]

Try living in Ljute's basement under these conditions for 11 months, 9 days, 16hrs, 29 minutes, and 54 seconds then tell me how you feel.

Gotta go. Birdseed time.

The basement is cold right now. Good place to stay when it's hot outside.

How did I get dragged into a flippy cap thread?

 

[boltonranger]

I posted a fix awhile back - I was amazed at how much emotion my post stirred up;
I think what surprised me was how few replies took interest in the fix and instead wanted to vent about it.
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=130186

It is an extremely frustrating problem when they won't seat; with me it was the gas cap.
A bad one took me 30 minutes of wasted time on my tailgate when I was losing daylight after work at a friends house bucking logs.

I found it does take a while to figure them out; and they are much more difficult to diagnose than a regular screw-in cap.

I HATE paying for replacements, so I solved my problem by shaving the edges, but I can't blame those who just don't want the hassle.
Stihl would do well to engineer the cap as an option. Something like a special insert that allows a flip-cap; remove the insert and you're back to screw caps.

I never soaked my leg with gas or oil but that would send me right over the edge! :censored:
-br