Now Early Seral Patches May Be Rarer Than Old Growth.

[forestryworks]

Salmonberry is native and edible. Scots' broom is invasive and poisonous. I'll take the former over the latter every time.

Word.

 

[northmanlogging]

"explosive dehiscence"

Wow, learn something everyday! Never knew that as the technical term was for the snap and popping sounds from SB during hot (over 75 here) summer days.

FIrst time heard it thought one of the kids was eating rice crispies in the backyard <G>

When we first moved to PNW (1967) DW put some SB on the mantle for Christmas decorations. The 'grandma' next door saw it and burst into near uncontrollable laughter - asked DW WHY she put weeds on the mantle for Christmas!

I'll take the SB over salmonberries any day though.

You should hear it under the power lines in D town... can be hard to carry on a conversation...

Salmon berries are far better, they stay put, where its just a bit damp, and produce tasty berries, that you can throw at you're rich aunt that happens to be wearing all white:msp_w00t:

 

[slowp]

Salmonberry is much easier to chop with a machete.

 

[northmanlogging]

Someone out there should start doing the ground work to plant more Devils Club, after all who doesn't like a shrub that fights back...

 

[OlympicYJ]

Ditto on the salmonberry. Not nearly the pain that Scotch broom is. Those edible berries are a bonus... at least tide ya over till the blackberrys and blue berries are rip :wink2:

Planting devils club is just.... wrong! Or genius if planted in the right spots. You have an evil mind! haha

 

[northmanlogging]

Yesss, that would be excellent, muhahaha

 

[slowp]

I don't think it took. I transplanted Devil's Club in a campground. We were assigned to cleaning up the campground after it was logged. I dug up a plant and put it between sites. I don't know how it did. It probably died. I can't remember where I was in the campground so can't check. If it lived, it would be large diameter with old growth characteristics.

 

[floyd]

It isn't the "horse jerks" that bring thistle into a disturbed site. Try the wind.

 

[madhatte]

I like the "horse jerks". They always know where the dump sites are and leave no trash other than road apples. They are a very useful source of information.

 

[northmanlogging]

It isn't the "horse jerks" that bring thistle into a disturbed site. Try the wind.

Not to ruffle any feathers, but the sight I am talking about for every canadian thistle there is a corresponding pile of horse poo... not to mention most of the "horse people" here about's have too many horses on not enough dirt, so the ground is all muddy and washing away... which in my mind makes them jerks...


Normally I don't mind horses and horse riders, unless they start shutting down atv trails again, so they can ride their ponies in peace, then I get angry

 

[forestryworks]

not to mention most of the "horse people" here about's have too many horses on not enough dirt, so the ground is all muddy and washing away

Too many horse folks keep a horse or three on their place like they keep dogs in a backyard. Not the way it's supposed to be done. Rotational grazing ain't that hard to figure out or to implement.

 

[northmanlogging]

Not a whole lot of flat land here, so what there is has a bit of a premium on it. There is a boarding stable a few miles from me that has maybe 20 horses on 5 wooded acres, on a slope... most of the trees are dead or dying, and all the top soil has washed into the road, causing some minor flooding when it rain a little harder than usual...


The rest of the majority have 2-3 horses locked up on 1-3 acres, usually hilly. Just not enough dirt to grow enough grass to rotate them. But they got their pony...

 

[floyd]

Yup. Thing about loggers I like is the 14 dead crummies in the back yard...or front yard.

Give a rest,boys.