Now taking pre-orders on 044,046,066 full wraps

[Shrug]

Hey, I just sent you a PM asking if you guys have one of these after market full wrap handles available yet for the Husqvarna 390XP? Figured I would post here as well in case others have the same question.

 

[adkranger]

Okay, I refreshed myself on the "piggyback". It makes me wonder what our liability is making aluminum aftermarket nozzles for gas tanks??

I see the ones Bailey's has is "CARB approved". Why do those ones suck so much? :dunno: I don't own a single tank that isn't old school.

They suck so bad because they have no vent and a spring loaded valve in the spout. Both items combine to make pouring accurately into a small gas tank dang near impossible w/o spilling, overfilling and generally being a major PITA. The only CARB compliant can I have that works OK is the deisel can for the tractor because I can just stick the nozzle into the tank and let the weight of the can hold the valve open till she's empty. For everything else I am keeping my old school cans for the flow control. I've also kept a few non-valved nozzles from old cans, but then you get the glug-glug w/o a vent.

These new fangled cans were designed by egg-heads to eliminate vapors & fluids from escaping into the environment, but by their design they tend to encourage more escape......go figure.:msp_mad:

 

[7oaks]

They suck so bad because they have no vent and a spring loaded valve in the spout. Both items combine to make pouring accurately into a small gas tank dang near impossible w/o spilling, overfilling and generally being a major PITA. The only CARB compliant can I have that works OK is the deisel can for the tractor because I can just stick the nozzle into the tank and let the weight of the can hold the valve open till she's empty. For everything else I am keeping my old school cans for the flow control. I've also kept a few non-valved nozzles from old cans, but then you get the glug-glug w/o a vent.

These new fangled cans were designed by egg-heads to eliminate vapors & fluids from escaping into the environment, but by their design they tend to encourage more escape......go figure.:msp_mad:

Agree 1000%!!!

 

[Metals406]

Okay, for some reason, I'm not getting emails for my subbed threads.:bang:

I'm going to go into settings and see what the heck is going on!?

It was just brought to my attention today, that two guys who ordered handles are having trouble with the factory screws being too short to mount the handles. PLEASE let me know if any of you others are having problems.

40mm screws from Ribe (Stihl) are part # 9074 478 4705.

My dealer was asking $1.95 a screw. If any of you think your bottom screws are sketchy (for how much plastic they grab on the bottom of the tank). . . Let me know, and I'll go buy some 40's and mail them to you.

Cliff and Stephen, those handles look great on your saws, and I'm super-glad you're happy!

 

[Metals406]

Agree 1000%!!!

Carl! Sorry I didn't hook up with you for yet another season!

Right after I talked to you about firewood, the '79 Chevy's 400 started smoking like a banshee, and using oil like I own stock in Exxon. I haven't taken it off the property since. I think I have a dead hole or two. :rant:

Are you and the wife coming up again this year?

 

[Metals406]

On these tank vents and nozzles. . . I've been thinking. Even my old cans have those crappy plastic vent caps that eventually break off, and gas always wants to slosh out.

I think a guy could make a check valve fairly easily using a piece of aluminum, and pen spring (or carb spring), a ball bearing, a really aggressive thread pitch, and some Seal-All.

Air would suck in, gas wouldn't come out.

 

[mcfly]

It was just brought to my attention today, that two guys who ordered handles are having trouble with the factory screws being too short to mount the handles. PLEASE let me know if any of you others are having problems.

I had that happen with my 460 handle. I just bored the countersunk part a bit deeper. No problem here I have the technology to take care of the easy stuff. :msp_biggrin:

 

[Mr. Bow Saw]

Okay, for some reason, I'm not getting emails for my subbed threads.:bang:

I'm going to go into settings and see what the heck is going on!?

It was just brought to my attention today, that two guys who ordered handles are having trouble with the factory screws being too short to mount the handles. PLEASE let me know if any of you others are having problems.

40mm screws from Ribe (Stihl) are part # 9074 478 4705.

My dealer was asking $1.95 a screw. If any of you think your bottom screws are sketchy (for how much plastic they grab on the bottom of the tank). . . Let me know, and I'll go buy some 40's and mail them to you.

Cliff and Stephen, those handles look great on your saws, and I'm super-glad you're happy!

I am not having any problems with mine. The stock screws did seem a little short on the bottom.

 

[Work Saw Collector]

Okay, for some reason, I'm not getting emails for my subbed threads.:bang:

I'm going to go into settings and see what the heck is going on!?

It was just brought to my attention today, that two guys who ordered handles are having trouble with the factory screws being too short to mount the handles. PLEASE let me know if any of you others are having problems.

40mm screws from Ribe (Stihl) are part # 9074 478 4705.

My dealer was asking $1.95 a screw. If any of you think your bottom screws are sketchy (for how much plastic they grab on the bottom of the tank). . . Let me know, and I'll go buy some 40's and mail them to you.

Cliff and Stephen, those handles look great on your saws, and I'm super-glad you're happy!

I went and bought those longer screws the day my handles came in. Works great.

 

[Metals406]

Sounds like you fellas got it worked out. We initially took a little more from the counter-bore, but now I see we either need to take another 8mm or so, or send screws along with each handle.

My subscriptions still aren't working, Darin said Microsoft is blocking his IP addy from email notifications -- I switched to gmail, I'll see if it makes it work?

 

[Metals406]

I am not having any problems with mine. The stock screws did seem a little short on the bottom.

Cliff, if you think the bottom screws don't have enough contact, let me know and I'll send you some screws. . . Or take the appropriate sized drill bit in a hand drill, and remove another 1/4 to 5/16 from the holes.

 

[Work Saw Collector]

I took the MS460 out yesterday to do some cleanup where a fence is. I was able to cut lower than I thought it would with the full wrap. Plenty low enough to drive a truck or tractor over, no more than 3" on the highest side.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/supercabs78/5619613743/" title="MS460 full wrap by supercabs78, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5061/5619613743_2598b1eaa2_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="MS460 full wrap"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/supercabs78/5619617813/" title="MS460 full wrap by supercabs78, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5183/5619617813_ac69bdff20_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="MS460 full wrap"></a>

 

[madhatte]

I think a guy could make a check valve fairly easily using a piece of aluminum, and pen spring (or carb spring), a ball bearing, a really aggressive thread pitch, and some Seal-All.

Air would suck in, gas wouldn't come out.

I like that thinking quite a bit. It would be at least a nod to CARB compliance, while flowing way better than the junk we're forced to buy now. I have a handful of the good old ones and you can bet I'm hoarding them like they're made of pure gold.

Similar thought: why does California get to bully the rest of the US around with their environmental laws? I live in WA; CARB has no jurisdiction here. Why can't I buy what I want?

 

[Metals406]

I like that thinking quite a bit. It would be at least a nod to CARB compliance, while flowing way better than the junk we're forced to buy now. I have a handful of the good old ones and you can bet I'm hoarding them like they're made of pure gold.

Similar thought: why does California get to bully the rest of the US around with their environmental laws? I live in WA; CARB has no jurisdiction here. Why can't I buy what I want?

You can't buy what you want because Government, as a whole, has gotten too big, and out of control. Over the past 100 years, people have neglected their duty to be self sufficient, and have begged for a Nanny-State. Now we got it, and they'll complain that they don't like that either. :msp_rolleyes:

China is segueing into Capitalism, as we slip into Socialism/Marxism/etc.

I want to try my check valve idea, but it'll have to be later, I'm swamped for the next few months.

 

[Metals406]

To the fellas waiting on 372 handles. . . The waiting will have to continue I'm afraid. The shop has a big construction project going, which will keep us busy (and working out-of-town) for at least 8 weeks. I also have personal work projects I'm doing, and 400 irons in the fire.

We do have (don't quote me on this, I'll have to check) 3-4 066 handles in inventory, and a couple 044/046's. The price is $115.00 shipped.

A guy's gotta work while the work is there.

 

[Metals406]

I took the MS460 out yesterday to do some cleanup where a fence is. I was able to cut lower than I thought it would with the full wrap. Plenty low enough to drive a truck or tractor over, no more than 3" on the highest side.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/supercabs78/5619613743/" title="MS460 full wrap by supercabs78, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5061/5619613743_2598b1eaa2_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="MS460 full wrap"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/supercabs78/5619617813/" title="MS460 full wrap by supercabs78, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5183/5619617813_ac69bdff20_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="MS460 full wrap"></a>

Love the pics Stephen!! What are your thoughts on the handle after having some time on it? Do you think it transitions smoothly from top to side?

 

[Rudedog]

Similar thought: why does California get to bully the rest of the US around with their environmental laws? I live in WA; CARB has no jurisdiction here. Why can't I buy what I want?

Because California has the 9th largest economy in the world. The top two exports of the United States, technology and entertainment, are dominated by California. Sucks doesn't it.

 

[Work Saw Collector]

Love the pics Stephen!! What are your thoughts on the handle after having some time on it? Do you think it transitions smoothly from top to side?

I couldn't be happer with them the MS460 and the MS660 the 066 will be done soon and already got one put on it as well. Thanks Nate.

 

[Metals406]

I couldn't be happer with them the MS460 and the MS660 the 066 will be done soon and already got one put on it as well. Thanks Nate.

Super glad you like them!

Did you ever check and see if the 044 even came close to fit on the 038? Not pressuring you mang, just curious.

Also, did you end up keeping both 066 handles then?

 

[Metals406]

Jameson has his mounted up, and should be cutting with it Monday. Although, he's dropping some danger-snags in the park today too.

I'm looking forward to his thoughts on it, and maybe some video/pics.:msp_w00t: