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Today I went out to split some wood and my splitter will not draw oil out of the tank. Went to Napa and bought a new filter. Same thing will not make pressure. I remember when I was a kid putting diesel in the the 8n during the winter to thin the oil a little. Should I put some diesel in my splitter or switch to atf or maybe both? It has just regular r and o oil from Napa in it now.
 
Today I went out to split some wood and my splitter will not draw oil out of the tank. Went to Napa and bought a new filter. Same thing will not make pressure. I remember when I was a kid putting diesel in the the 8n during the winter to thin the oil a little. Should I put some diesel in my splitter or switch to atf or maybe both? It has just regular r and o oil from Napa in it now.
Just head back to Napa and pick up a Jug of Premium Winter Grade low viscosity hydraulic oil . This will most likely solve your problem , assuming your pump , relief valve and directional valves are mechanically sound . Depending on usage and your region filter and fluid should replaced every 2 YRS , due to contamination . Hope this is some help !
 
AW 48 should flow down to 0 Fahrenheit. I’d be looking at the suction side to see if there’s any ice from contaminated oil.
 
AW 48 should flow down to 0 Fahrenheit. I’d be looking at the suction side to see if there’s any ice from contaminated oil.
No ice in it I ended up punching some holes in the filter to get what I needed to split split and worked fine. I think I need to find a less fiber count filter. It uses a 1551 filter.
 
No ice in it I ended up punching some holes in the filter to get what I needed to split split and worked fine. I think I need to find a less fiber count filter. It uses a 1551 filter.
Good find & fix in a pinch , however the filter may have been fouled as I previously mentioned . Otherwise. oil viscosity thickness or water entrainment on older oil can contribute to the inlet icing. and sluggish performance that another member advised ?
 
Just head back to Napa and pick up a Jug of Premium Winter Grade low viscosity hydraulic oil . This will most likely solve your problem , assuming your pump , relief valve and directional valves are mechanically sound . Depending on usage and your region filter and fluid should replaced every 2 YRS , due to contamination . Hope this is some help !

I've never heard that before.
Would be darn expensive, some equipment holds 50-75 gallons.
 
I put a new filter on and took it back off and punched holes in the old one to put back on.
It also wouldn’t such oil through the brand new filter. I think I’m gonna run straight atf next fall when I fire it back up.

Sounds like you’ve got problems atf ain’t gonna fix. The filter should be on the return side not the suction, and it should have a bypass to prevent over pressurizing. Are you talking about a screen inside the tank itself? Screens are sized to gpm of the pump and suction screens are coarse enough to flow AW46 at 0 F. unless someone has tampered with it.
 
I've never heard that before.
Would be darn expensive, some equipment holds 50-75 gallons.
Choppy most commercial 15 to 35 ton hyd. splitters require no more than 5 gal. reservoirs that I have worked on . If you have a larger capacity tank then common sense dictates contamination from water entrainment , dirt & general debris is less as would be service intervals . A Wix filter and. 5 gal drum of general utility 46 hyd. oil will run you under $50 . ATF . Will add 25% to the overall cost if cold climate usage is required . A small investment in ensuring protecting the system internals long term . I also advised dependant on use (hours) and area temperature swings ( thermal cycles) this service frequency could vary . I have routinely seen milky looking oil in reservoirs within a 2 yr period .
 
Sounds like you’ve got problems atf ain’t gonna fix. The filter should be on the return side not the suction, and it should have a bypass to prevent over pressurizing. Are you talking about a screen inside the tank itself? Screens are sized to gpm of the pump and suction screens are coarse enough to flow AW46 at 0 F. unless someone has tampered with it.
I built the splitter and put the filter on the suction side because it was much easier for me do to space
 
Choppy most commercial 15 to 35 ton hyd. splitters require no more than 5 gal. reservoirs that I have worked on . If you have a larger capacity tank then common sense dictates contamination from water entrainment , dirt & general debris is less as would be service intervals . A Wix filter and. 5 gal drum of general utility 46 hyd. oil will run you under $50 . ATF . Will add 25% to the overall cost if cold climate usage is required . A small investment in ensuring protecting the system internals long term . I also advised dependant on use (hours) and area temperature swings ( thermal cycles) this service frequency could vary . I have routinely seen milky looking oil in reservoirs within a 2 yr period .

Aw32, if I buy 10 pails at a time, runs me about $45/pail.
 
I built the splitter and put the filter on the suction side because it was much easier for me do to space

Is this the first cold weather you’ve run it in? What micron rating? This is not the way to filter hydraulic oil. No manufacturer or parts supplier recommends anything but a coarse screen on the suction side. A true filter is far to restrictive. That’s why they’re always on the return. That’s also the only way the bypass valve works. Under pressure ,not suction.
 
I built the splitter and put the filter on the suction side because it was much easier for me do to space
Is this the first cold weather you’ve run it in? What micron rating? This is not the way to filter hydraulic oil. No manufacturer or parts supplier recommends anything but a coarse screen on the suction side. A true filter is far to restrictive. That’s why they’re always on the return. That’s also the only way the bypass valve works. Under pressure ,not suction.
J , if bypass your referring to a system pressure relief valve , they are installed within the static pressure side of the system for a over pressure situation to protect valve. & cylinder o-rings and cyl.seal components . This rel.valve dumps back to the oil reservoir in such over pressure instances . Also a conventional spin on oil filter is normal on the return of these splitters & micronsized to the oil viscosity and flow requirements of the unit . Often within the oil tank for protection although external mounting is often also used provide a cooling effect and easier servicing .
 
Is this the first cold weather you’ve run it in? What micron rating? This is not the way to filter hydraulic oil. No manufacturer or parts supplier recommends anything but a coarse screen on the suction side. A true filter is far to restrictive. That’s why they’re always on the return. That’s also the only way the bypass valve works. Under pressure ,not suction.
Idk what micron rating all I know is it’s a Napa number 1551 and they told me it was ok for on suction side. I don’t use a bypass beings the valve has a bypass in it. Iv ran the splitter down to 15-20 degrees the day I was trying to use it was nearly zero
 
Idk what micron rating all I know is it’s a Napa number 1551 and they told me it was ok for on suction side. I don’t use a bypass beings the valve has a bypass in it. Iv ran the splitter down to 15-20 degrees the day I was trying to use it was nearly zero
Rather apparent that the high viscosity or combination of too small micron sized filter impeded oil suction flow causing your situation from what you have indicated (punching holes) . If you continue cold weather usage suitable atf oil and proper filtration placement is required Motorhead !
 
Napa 1551 is a 10 micron filter.

Can put a coarse strainer from the hydraulic tank to the pump. The 10 -30 micron filter should be on the line back to the tank.
If the oil tank is clean and the return line 10 micron filter is piped into the tank - then all oil is filtered that goes back to the tank. Inlet filter is not required since the hydraulic oil will not contain particles large enough to be captured by the coarser mesh strainer.

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Napa 1551 is a 10 micron filter.

Can put a coarse strainer from the hydraulic tank to the pump. The 10 -30 micron filter should be on the line back to the tank.
If the oil tank is clean and the return line 10 micron filter is piped into the tank - then all oil is filtered that goes back to the tank. Inlet filter is not required since the hydraulic oil will not contain particles large enough to be captured by the coarser mesh strainer.

https://www.arboristsite.com/commun...rainer-on-a-log-splitter.209699/#post-3856127
Another reason to install the properly micron sized filter on the return to tank as advised by Mr Henderson and Ray, is to prevent starving the hyd. pump due to filter restriction fouling as it does its job , that may contribute to pump cavitation . Which can elevate oil temps ( thermal breakdown & foaming ) that increase potential for pump damage from air entrainment .
 
So your point is that your splitter has a 50 + gallon oil reservoir ?
I have always used Shell Tellus Hydraulic within our Tractor and Loader Systems . Previously Tellus 46 for 10+ yrs more recently Tellus 22 for better Performance in Winter conditions . Actually have just put 22 in my Splitter this yr , since I by it in 55 gal drum @ significant savings for our fleet usage .
 
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