Old saw toughness vs. new saw delicateness

[slowsuki]

homelite sxl 925 82 ccs 14.5 lbs 385xp 85ccs over 16 lbs 046 78ccs 14.4 lbs something is wrong with your theroy of old saws are heavy.

 

[458_lott]

Here is the deal for me. I really don't care what the saw is made out of. It has to work when I want it to and it has to work as hard as I do and I am a hard worker, particularly in the woods. I am a big fan of Homelites. Guys that have read my posts are probably sick of hearing that. AND, the Super XL-925s buttered my bread for many years. Having said that and being the new owner of a new MS-460, I will repeat that the saw has to be ready to work hard when I am and I have no evidence to suggest that Stihl (new plastic ones, or Huskys, or Jonnyreds, or Makitas (Dolmar), etc.) will not make in to call when it's work time. I was suspect about plastic saws, but they work. Engineering is better and I am old school for sure, but there is nothing, repeat, nothing wrong with the plastic saws of today. I have worked with saws for 35 years (always supplementing my income) and I have broken my share of magnesium saws also. Can't saw they are anymore durable. My Super Wizzes are like tanks, but they can break also as I have broken rear handles off of them also. Bottom line, the saw has to work and plastic saws come to work as well as the old timers. Just my experience.

 

[slowsuki]

i stated earlyer plastic is not bad i have sevral 036 029 soon 6400 just think not as strong as older saws.sometimes you can over engineer things i gess people get bored . read your thed about 046 and you said it had no wow factor.most prase 046 because they have not ran sxl 925.

 

[Blowdown1]

well then I guess

that means you are not built as strong as me or any of the much older guys around here?

As for plastic wheels, essentially they exist. It is called carbon fiber, which is essentially glorified plastic.

By the way, do those weights you posted include modern equipment like chain brakes?

people are like saws they are not as strong or built like they use to be.sad realy if you think about it

 

[166]

By the way, do those weights you posted include modern equipment like chain brakes?

You can add Mufflers that actually quiet down the saw, anti-vibration, along with chain brakes.
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I'm not sure that some people in here understand that most (All Pro Models) still are using Magnesium Crankcase's. The only exception to that are some cheaper Elux & Stihls (Homeowner $100-$199 Saws) are using Plastic Crankcase's.
Also Dolmar has two models that use Aluminum Crankcases (PS-460 & PS-510)

So the only Plastic in most saws are: Gas Tank / Rear Handle, hoods, recoil housing, switch, choke lever, & maybe the side cover on some smaller saws.

Steve

 

[slowsuki]

carbon fiber chainsaw would be nice but expince would be to high.carbon fiber is not plastic it is more like fiber glass but not plastic. the weight of the saws are without bars does a brake made of plastic weigh two pounds. i hope not. saws and people were tuffer because the conditions demanded it. the use of a saw for 30 years will were it out like people.

 

[16gauge]

You are all full of crap.

How did you know that! I have not even posted yet. Ohhh you said "you are all full of crap"....not "ya'll are full of crap"...sorry, please ignore this then.

 

[weimedog]

And then there folks like me...where logic isn't what rules the descision with
saws. If I was making a living with a saw, I would have to by new and size the saw to the job. But I'm not. Its a hobby. I've blended a mechanical itch with a hobby that helps generate raw material I need to build & heat this farm. I happen to LIKE the technology of the 60's and 70's. Simple as that. I couldn't care less about the new saws. Since I can buy any saws I like...I buy what I want to mess with and thats old Mac's & Homies of the 60's and 70's era. I don't even try to rationalize when it comes right down to it. They are functional tools and fun. I like bringing neat old mechanical things back to life. Thats enough.

 

[spacemule]

saws and people were tuffer because the conditions demanded it. the use of a saw for 30 years will were it out like people.

I had a Dolmar saw with plenty of plastic that fell out of my truck at 60 mph and landed with the bar stabbing the ground and the saw quivering for several seconds. There were no busted parts aside from a messed up chain. Let's see your old saws do that. Sorry (not really, but that's what folks always say when they're not sorry), but you're fos.

 

[slowsuki]

i was doing 120 wen mine fell out

 

[spacemule]

My dog's bigger than your dog. ;-)

 

[Blowdown1]

actually...

carbon fiber chainsaw would be nice but expince would be to high.carbon fiber is not plastic it is more like fiber glass but not plastic. the weight of the saws are without bars does a brake made of plastic weigh two pounds. i hope not. saws and people were tuffer because the conditions demanded it. the use of a saw for 30 years will were it out like people.

a brake is much more than the piece of plastic in front of your hand. Do you think that piece of plastic is what actually stops the chain? :bang:

As for carbon fiber, it is also known as graphite-reinforced plastic or carbon-reinforced plastic. As for fiberglass which you mention, you know what another term for that is? Yup, glass-reinforced PLASTIC. So like I said, it is high-tech (and yes, sometimes expensive) plastic.

BTW, which would be easier to repair, the plastic or magnesium? My bet is the plastic w/ some epoxy.

 

[slowsuki]

why would they have to renforce plastic

 

[Lakeside53]

why would they have to renforce plastic

Why do they put aggregate in concrete?

Why is "magnesium" as used in saws an "Alloy"?

Why do you need fiber in your diet?:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

 

[spacemule]

No no no, they're not reinforcing plastic, they're using plastic to reinforce the fiberglass. ;-)

 

[rb_in_va]

some people like tapes some like cds .cds are more derable but scrach alot easer .just because it is the latest fad does not mean it is better.

slowsuki,
If you cannot see that CDs are better than cassette tapes you've probably ridden the not so long bus.

 

[KASH]

I have 2 Husky 162s both bought new one 1977 magnesium rewind it is still on it.The other a 1979 plastic rewind changed it three times finally with a Jonsered 630 red plastic much stronger still on the saw ugly but effective. Both saws came with metal tanks which developed leaks on the seams more from abuse than anything else. I think plastic tanks are better but the Husky and Jonsered plastic chokes have always been a problem. The aluminum chain brake handles were very poorly engineered. The point of attachment was weak. My 2 cents

 

[slowsuki]

whats wrog with the short bus.

 

[slowsuki]

men't short

 

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