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I've already predicted how the next call from the customer and her son will go. She will call in about 3-4 weeks right when it's mid August and about 110 degrees out and complain that only weeds are growing in her 'rocky' dirt instead of the 100% bluegrass blend that her son so painstakingly seeded in for her. I'll reiterate the same thing I told her when I installed the dirt - that she should have waited until the end of August or early Sept to seed in the grass when it's cooler. She'll insist it's the soil. I'll insist it's the heat. She'll call in a landscaper to reseed the area and it will probably take just great the second time around because, by then, it will be the end of August and not so darn hot! But, of course, who's going to listen to the 'dumb arborist' who brought her the horribly rocky soil to begin with. What could he know about growing grass or anything else....??? :)

Some things are just too predictable.
 
One more thing....

I've already predicted how the next call from the customer and her son will go. She will call in about 3-4 weeks right when it's mid August and about 110 degrees out and complain that only weeds are growing in her 'rocky' dirt instead of the 100% bluegrass blend that her son so painstakingly seeded in for her. I'll reiterate the same thing I told her when I installed the dirt - that she should have waited until the end of August or early Sept to seed in the grass when it's cooler. She'll insist it's the soil. I'll insist it's the heat. She'll call in a landscaper to reseed the area and it will probably take just great the second time around because, by then, it will be the end of August and not so darn hot! But, of course, who's going to listen to the 'dumb arborist' who brought her the horribly rocky soil to begin with. What could he know about growing grass or anything else....??? :)

Some things are just too predictable.

I predict that you will get a call/complaint that you didn't put enough soil in the hole! In the park I work at we try to compact the soil the best we can but we always have to top it off with more soil because the soil settles as it gets irrigated. We have tried to mound the back fill soil and it still settles some. Good Luck!
 
Sheeit! We just got done a 3 day job at this drunk ladies house... least I think she was a lady.

Yur Hilarious! Unfortunately this lady and messed up individual living with her have big mouths and will be talking about this for awhile. When this happens to me and it's not often,TG, I just think to myself that the person talking with them will know how dizzy they are and still hire me.. I like to think optimistic. They phone back Don't answer. We all go through it and come out wiser.
 
Some customers expect a tree to go away and the area to be pristine and level forever. If you were to quote them the price for this service: you will have plenty of time at home to complete all of your Wife's requests, except the one "where is the money!" I have a few rules based upon experience working both inside and outside customers homes: Never work for a customer with a sick looking cat, a little yappy dog, a "child" over 30, or a septic field that is obviously stinking your house. If you can't throw some money at those problems, I require 1/2 the "cash" up front or I walk away.
 
Just out of curiosity...isn't there a better supplier of topsoil in your area? All the "dirt dealers" in our area use river bottom soil, so no need to screen. You might consider buying from a different source.

If rocky soil is prevalent in your area, then stick a shovel in her own yard and show her the rocks already there. They will probably get real quiet when you start tossing rocks out of the rest of the yard that are bigger than the screened dirt you provided.
 
The soil I buy is very very good stuff. My guess is that my supplier might have scooped up a few rocks from his lot when loading the dirt into his truck to bring to me or I might have done the same when loading my truck to take to the customer.

Either way, it wasn't that much rock and it certainly has been no cause for alarm with anyone in the past. Just one of those odd duck customers...
 
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15$ an hour is probably the highest wage he has ever earned!

Maybe he will put in an application to your company to work full time... Could you use a pebble picker on your workforce?
 
I took out a silver maple and ground out the huge stump including flare and surface roots the other day and raked up and removed all the wood chips for the customer, an 80-year-old lady whose 50-ish year old son lives with her. Besides raking twice, I used the blower to blow as many of the chips out of the grass as economically feasible. I told them that a shop vac or mower with a bagger would get the rest and not to worry about the sawdust as it would simply compost into the lawn. No big deal they said - they would take it from there.

As we're loading tools, they ask if I would fill the stump for them. I tell them that I prefer that they contact a landscaping or lawn care company as I am very busy with tree work right now but they persist and I say 'ok'. After assuring them that the dirt I use is from the same supplier that the landscapers get their dirt from, they agree to a price and I return with the dirt - almost 4 cu yds worth. I get the stump filled and raked out, they pay the bill and I leave with them telling me what a good job I did.

The next day, i get a call from the distressed old lady who insists that I come over to her house. This is where it gets interesting. When I arrive, the son shows me a mop bucket with about the bottom 1 1/2" filled up with rocks varying from 1" down to pea size. Apparently, he spent two hours on his hands and knees sifting through the soils with a trowl and bucket and picking out anything that wouldn't crush into dust. He's also been out there hand-picking out every remaining wood chip out of the grass.

They inform me that the dirt I delivered (beautiful screened black topsoil) is sub-standard and that it needs to be removed and replaced. I smile, appologize for their inconvenience and assure them that the soil is just fine and that there is no need to remove it. We go around for about 15 minutes and they finally agree that the dirt can stay but they are unhappy about her son having to sift through it to remove 'all the rocks'. I again appologize for the inconvenience and, finding that it is a futile effort to try to explain to them that the removal of pea-sized rock was unnecessary, I ask what his 2 hours was worth.

The old lady says she wants her money back - the entire cost of the dirt including delivery and installation. I politely say, no and spend another 10 minutes explaining that I will gladly refund the cost of his 2 hours of labor to pick out the rock. They finally shoot me a price of $30 so I flip the son $40, we shake hands and I get the hell out of there before they get the chance to say anything else.

By this time, I've spent 30 minutes of my day to settle a $30 dispute over whether or not 'screened dirt' should or should not contain marble or pea-sized rock. As of today, I've vowed to never fill another stump again! As far as I'm concerned, the landscapers can fill the stumps and do the seeding from now on. Even when I owned my landscaping company and did lawn installation on a regular basis, I never dealt with something like this. Now, as an arborist whose focus is on tree care, I have very little patience for it at all.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your gonna have this 1 out of every 100 jobs , its part of doing business!
 
Sounds like you missed the opportunity to upsell the turn-key on the stump.

I understand you are busy but I have found it to be profitable to take care of everything after grinding the stump. The more income I can make without using a saw is good to me.

I do have my own top soil that we make from compost, turkey manure and clay soil. So I profit from the top soil as well.

I know the arguement is that you can make more money doing tree work but I love providing that extra service for the customer. If you did not want to do it right, you should have said no and not caved in to there request.
 
I dunno, seems I can grow grass just about anywhere... as long as its WATERED. leave compost, wood chips, mulch, clay soil. Seems to grow just fine for me... as long as its WATERED.
hey, do you think they watered it?
 
I dunno, seems I can grow grass just about anywhere... as long as its WATERED. leave compost, wood chips, mulch, clay soil. Seems to grow just fine for me... as long as its WATERED.
hey, do you think they watered it?

When i used to repair lawns damaged by spray techs I would have seed growing in the bed of the pickup truck.
 
Roof guttering should be the new stump cover. I cannot count the number of ill-repaired houses with grass growing out of the gutters that we have worked on or near.
 

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