Outside felling spike on 441?

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Mike Maas said:
If I can interject, big dogs are for little pussies. New saws run so fast, there's no need to dog in and pry. A real pro can sharpen his saw to cut into the wood without having to pry.


Maybe where you're at, but buck up and come out west. Gnarly bark 4 inches thick, 80% slope, and a 660 with a 42" bar. I use the dogs more to hold the saw up as I'm starting my cuts. Even for pryiong, mechanical advantage is nice when you're running saw 14 hours a day. Just because you use the dogs as a pivot point doesn't mean you reef on the saw and force it through. But it's all relative to where you work and what you do. If you fall thin barked hardwoods on flat ground with short bars, you won't use your dogs nearly as much.
 
Lakeside53 said:
Maybe I wasn't clear - the side cover and the process of drilling are the same as the 361... not the dogs.

If you want the BIG dogs, they are actually from the 066, and are the same as used on the 460 Magnum Wrap

Inner 1122 664 0501, outer 1122 664 0506, and you can mount the roller chain catcher 1122 650 7700


I HATE to correct you, since you are who you are, but the 460 wrap uses a different outer dog than the 440/660. It's about 3/8ths of an inch longer. It has an 1128 part number.
 
tek9tim said:
Maybe where you're at, but buck up and come out west. Gnarly bark 4 inches thick, 80% slope, and a 660 with a 42" bar. I use the dogs more to hold the saw up as I'm starting my cuts. Even for pryiong, mechanical advantage is nice when you're running saw 14 hours a day. Just because you use the dogs as a pivot point doesn't mean you reef on the saw and force it through. But it's all relative to where you work and what you do. If you fall thin barked hardwoods on flat ground with short bars, you won't use your dogs nearly as much.

Excellent post Tim, but I wouldn't expect anything less from you. I'd like to see a long bar 660 with short dogs, wouldn't you?

HA! Yeah right. :laugh:
 
tek9tim said:
Maybe where you're at, but buck up and come out west. Gnarly bark 4 inches thick, 80% slope, and a 660 with a 42" bar. I use the dogs more to hold the saw up as I'm starting my cuts. Even for pryiong, mechanical advantage is nice when you're running saw 14 hours a day. Just because you use the dogs as a pivot point doesn't mean you reef on the saw and force it through. But it's all relative to where you work and what you do. If you fall thin barked hardwoods on flat ground with short bars, you won't use your dogs nearly as much.

Good post... a lot of East side guys just don't understand the longer bars and big dawgs out West.:popcorn:

Gary
 
tek9tim said:
Maybe where you're at, but buck up and come out west. Gnarly bark 4 inches thick, 80% slope, and a 660 with a 42" bar. I use the dogs more to hold the saw up as I'm starting my cuts. Even for pryiong, mechanical advantage is nice when you're running saw 14 hours a day. Just because you use the dogs as a pivot point doesn't mean you reef on the saw and force it through. But it's all relative to where you work and what you do. If you fall thin barked hardwoods on flat ground with short bars, you won't use your dogs nearly as much.
I guess you told me.
Good points, well taken. I stand corrected.
 
Now that I think about it, we had one saw with some aftermarket spikes. The lowest set stuck way out, then the upper 4, 5 or how ever many there are, were almost normal sized. It gave the advantage of big dogs, while not really sacraficing bar length because the upper dogs were short.
Those were cool.
 
Mike Maas said:
Now that I think about it, we had one saw with some aftermarket spikes. The lowest set stuck way out, then the upper 4, 5 or how ever many there are were almost normal sized. It gave the advantage of big dogs, while not really sacraficing bar length because the upper dogs were short.
Those were cool.


Where did they come from?
 
tek9tim said:
I HATE to correct you, since you are who you are, but the 460 wrap uses a different outer dog than the 440/660. It's about 3/8ths of an inch longer. It has an 1128 part number.


heck, correct me anytime I'm wrong!, and yes, I did have the inner/outer part numbers reversed - damn memory is failing faster then my eyesight:help:


I'll need to dig into this a little. The 440, 441, 460 and MS660 wrap use the same inner dog, and except the 460 use the same outer dog. The 460 has a unique outer dog... Hmmm...
 
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