I have 2-3 440/044 and 046/460 saws waiting for some parts and refurb. I sell a lot of saws, those I keep.I have both of these saws, just finished an MS 460 Stihl, Meteor top end, OEM everything else. It's the 3rd one I've redone from scratch.
I have 2-3 440/044 and 046/460 saws waiting for some parts and refurb. I sell a lot of saws, those I keep.I have both of these saws, just finished an MS 460 Stihl, Meteor top end, OEM everything else. It's the 3rd one I've redone from scratch.
I have a good case for an 046 waiting in line next!I have 2-3 440/044 and 046/460 saws waiting for some parts and refurb. I sell a lot of saws, those I keep.
The thing I find is that the newer saws dont vibate your hands like the old ones. Not a problem for occasional users but lifetime users with carpal tunnel will appreciate less vibes. This is something not many people dont take into consideration when comparing on You tube for instance. I noticed my Dolmar 7900 is way smoother than all the older Stihls The Stihl 461 is a vibrating SOB!Nothing against the 372, but my old 044 mag is my best all around saw!
Grab an old homelite from 40 yrs ago and run it for 10 min, my hands take a half an hr to get the feeling back, ! The 044 from 20 yrs ago is light yrs ahead of those old homies! Power to weight ratio is where I grade a saw, along with parts availability and ease of repair.The thing I find is that the newer saws dont vibate your hands like the old ones. Not a problem for occasional users but lifetime users with carpal tunnel will appreciate less vibes. This is something not many people dont take into consideration when comparing on You tube for instance. I noticed my olmar 7900 is way smooter than all the older Stihls The Stihl 461 is a vibrating SOB!
Well were do you think I got Carpal Tunnel from in the first place? They could smoke out Hornets pretty good too. Have you tried a brand new Stihl at all?Grab an old homelite from 40 yrs ago and run it for 10 min, my hands take a half an hr to get the feeling back, ! The 044 from 20 yrs ago is light yrs ahead of those old homies! Power to weight ratio is where I grade a saw, along with parts availability and ease of repair.
I agree on power to weight 100 percent but take into consideration ergonomics,handling,balance and vibes .Grab an old homelite from 40 yrs ago and run it for 10 min, my hands take a half an hr to get the feeling back, ! The 044 from 20 yrs ago is light yrs ahead of those old homies! Power to weight ratio is where I grade a saw, along with parts availability and ease of repair.
Don't do much cutting anymore since I sold my mill, just firewood now so I haven't had a newer saw in my hands yet. Took 2 ms 461s and made 1 for an arborist friend, that's the newest saw I've handled lately. I'm sure they would be the same difference as comparing the old homes to my ms440.Well were do you think I got Carpal Tunnel from in the first place? They could smoke out Hornets pretty good too. Have you tried a brand new Stihl at all?
Oleo-Mac is an Italian company. Been around for decades.I've never heard of Oleomac. Is that one of those chinese Zenoah clones?
I agree on power to weight 100 percent but take into consideration ergonomics,handling,balance and vibes .Grab an old homelite from 40 yrs ago and run it for 10 min, my hands take a half an hr to get the feeling back, ! The 044 from 20 yrs ago is light yrs ahead of those old homies! Power to weight ratio is where I grade a saw, along with parts availability and ease of repair.
I sold my 461 because it was a hand vibraing SOB! Try a 500i Grizz you will never want to go back.Don't do much cutting anymore since I sold my mill, just firewood now so I haven't had a newer saw in my hands yet. Took 2 ms 461s and made 1 for an arborist friend, that's the newest saw I've handled lately. I'm sure they would be the same difference as comparing the old homes to my ms440.
Too rich for my blood, but would love to give it a test! My son and my best friends son are both pro arborists, so I'm sure one of them will have the 500i in their hands soon, then I'll have a chance to test drive! Just gave my son a ms 200t for Christmas, went through it with all oem parts, he had his eye on it for a while!I agree on power to weight 100 percent but take into consideration ergonomics,handling,balance and vibes .
I sold my 461 because it was a hand vibraing SOB! Try a 500i Grizz you will never want to go back.
I agree on power to weight 100 percent but take into consideration ergonomics,handling,balance and vibes .Grab an old homelite from 40 yrs ago and run it for 10 min, my hands take a half an hr to get the feeling back, ! The 044 from 20 yrs ago is light yrs ahead of those old homies! Power to weight ratio is where I grade a saw, along with parts availability and ease of repair.
I sold my 461 because it was a hand vibraing SOB! Try a 500i Grizz.Don't do much cutting anymore since I sold my mill, just firewood now so I haven't had a newer saw in my hands yet. Took 2 ms 461s and made 1 for an arborist friend, that's the newest saw I've handled lately. I'm sure they would be the same difference as comparing the old homes to my ms440.
Try one .Too rich for my blood, but would love to give it a test! My son and my best friends son are both pro arborists, so I'm sure one of them will have the 500i in their hands soon, then I'll have a chance to test drive! Just gave my son a ms 200t for Christmas, went through it with all oem parts, he had his eye on it for a while!
I agree.Stihls av sucked untill these more recent designs.
Depends on the average size that you are cutting daily. If it is smaller go with the 50cc and vice versa. Only the operator know sof his encounters in detail. I know we were able to use a 50 cc saw in a Tree in a pinch.IF I had to be on a 1 saw plan, it would be a 60cc saw. 50cc is good, but I think 60cc would be better. Especially if you get into bigger wood on occasion.
You won't find too many people that use a saw for a living that would trade their 572/462/400/500i/661 for a 372/044/046/066 or any of the older models.10mm 044. In the 80s-90s all the manufacturers were putting out some awesome stuff. No emissions yet, high performance, simple to work on, good antivibe, no electronics. I have around 50+\- saws majority are in that timeframe. Just used that saw today. Convince me otherwise. Pictured with another 4 star saw, Poulan 3450.View attachment 1052172View attachment 1052173
100% agree. Really the new saws arnt that much, if any harder to work on. Still a very simple engine.You won't find too many people that use a saw for a living that would trade their 572/462/400/500i/661 for a 372/044/046/066 or any of the older models.
These new saws cut faster..smoother..burn less gas..I get the nostalgia, I'm a nostalgic person myself..but I couldn't keep a straight face and say any of those older saws are better than their replacements for real world work.
100% agree. Really the new saws arnt that much, if any harder to work on. Still a very simple engine.
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