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Spray rig?

  • Pesticide spraying is the gravy train. Do it!

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • Buy the rig and use it for fertilizing only.

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • If it is cheap buy it and resell it to me.

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Stumper aren't you already busy all the time? Forget it ya dummy!

    Votes: 5 35.7%

  • Total voters
    14

Stumper

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I know that this is out of forum but I want input from the climb and cut crowd. The only guy in town that does tree spraying (and actually shows up) is leaving. He thinks I should get into spraying. My gut reaction is "No thanks". I don't like the chems and I think that 75% of the spraying people have done is a waste.I wouldn't mind applying insecticidal soaps and BT but I'm not sure I can do that without the whole headache of state licensing. However, I would like to hear input from you guys. One little thing kicking around in my skull is buying the rig he is offering and using it for fertilizing. Whadaya think?
 
My first thought is I concur with your adversion to the chemicals. Long term exposure to that stuff, evenin small quantities, can have some pretty seriousl consequences.

There is also the liability and additional licensing and other expenses to deal with, which you have also already mentioned.

How much of a need do you have for fertilizing that you can justify the cost of buying his rig?
 
I hold a pesticides certificate here in the Uk & our HSE are strict about trainning etc.I would say if there is money to be made then go for it as it would be another valued service you could offer your cutomers/clients.
 
I think it would be ok as long as you have the work .You can also sell merit ,microi,cambistat with a fert rig.Just make sure you have a spilt tank ,so you can spray also.then you can make your own programs and get some tree work also.
 
carefull you dont find yourself selling sprays and fert where they are not needed just to pay that rig off...not that i think you would do that. spraying is easy, but boring as s..t
 
Originally posted by Stumper
I My gut reaction is "No thanks". I don't like the chems and I think that 75% of the spraying people have done is a waste. Whadaya think?

I agree. My rig has only been used for one spider mite application in the last year. Too busy doing pruning and removals anyway to do something I don't like. Got licensed with grand visions of big $, the wrong reason. It's nice to be able to do periodic jobs, but I wouldn't want to be married to a route. Gotta sleep at night.
 
It's a personal decision, but I love PHC. It's a great feeling when you're doing what's in the best interest of the trees and rarely have to deal with customers telling you how it should be done. I prefer to be critiqued by people more knowledgeable than I. :D

If you're not going to use the rig, don't buy it. But PHC work isn't steady - you'll pull it out when the timing is right for gypsy moth sprays, Merit applications, etc. It'll give you even more climbing work for the winter! :)
 
Originally posted by Stumper
My gut reaction is "No thanks". I don't like the chems and I think that 75% of the spraying people have done is a waste.


I would second that.
 
Be aware that once you purchase that spray rig, you have invited a devil to perch on your shoulder. Only the most ethical, responsible, and well-intentioned arborist will be able to resist the cajolery of this devil. You and your new devil will engage in a constant struggle between your ethics, and his bottom dollar.

You start with such PHC interventions as BT, Dimilin, insecticidal and horticultural oil sprays, etc. The problem with these measures is they tend to be more subtle in how they manage tree pests. They work, but other, more toxic pesticides work better, and the client sees this. And nothing impresses the client than a great “knockdown effect.” So why bother using an environmentally friendly pesticide like BT on Gypsy Moth instars, when, much to the approbation of the client, you can just zap ‘em dead with a pyrethrum spray? After all, you’re just spraying one little cranny in one little corner of your client base? No major harm done, right?

The devil, of course, agrees. He has no reason to think long term, or globally; he’s just concerned about one thing – his bottom line.

I think too many tree care companies engage in faux PHC. Yes, they call it “PHC,” but it really isn’t at all. The truth is, too many salespeople for tree care companies sell PHC based more on the bottom dollar than on the wider consideration of their potential environmental consequences. And why shouldn’t they? Their income is usually based on a percentage of what they sell, and it’s no secret that sprays are cash cows.

But money can still be made with a sound, responsible PHC approach, though it takes work to sell it. The client simply has to be educated properly.

Wait a minute! This is Stumper asking about a spray rig! I can't picture the Stumper saying "the devil made me do it!"


-Chuck, once a mosquito sprayer (in the guise of a "tick" sprayer)
 
Yeah, contextual error there, Nick. Better said as Applicator-friendly, I think.

BTW, what are environmental concerns of BT? Are you thinking more as crop applications? I may be lagging on the latest science on BT.
 
My greatest Bt concern is the fact that it is treated as an environmentally-friendly product when really, it does impact all Lepidopterous species. It's a fact well-known by the scientists and poorly understood by most.

Bt chews up the gut of gypsy moth caterpillars, but it chews up the guts of all caterpillars in the Lepidoptera family. I would imagine you know this, but it's not something the average my-neighbor-is-getting-an-aerial-spray-today homeowner knows.
 
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