Pictures of bore cutting, lots O pics

[slowp]

The GOL guy would hold a wedge in his hand, up against the face cut to show a way to see if it was gunned in the right direction. But, if your wedges are all dinged and chewed up, like mine that can be hard to do.
Put yer shades on, these are bright.

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He didn't ever drive it into the front. So, I have no idea, and my B-Bucker card expired so my brain has been erased. :smile2:

 

[sawinredneck]

Is there a name for these "side cuts" used to square up the sides like that?

I think I've seen them used in non-bore cut photos/videos before (though the one I can remember right now was definitely a GOL guy).

Are they ever used outside of the GOL universe?

I've cut root flare like that on Maple's and Pin Oaks when cutting a low stump.

Bore cutting certainly has it's place and I've used it numerous times on leaners, used the Coo's bay on some other leaners.
But that was an easy fall, seems to be a waste of a lot of time and energy for a simple straight foreward job!
I also agree about the fire line, they want the tree on the ground spending as little time under the hazards as possible, nutting around like that will get you killed!

 

[ChainsawmanXX]

Gonna be the first to say here, that im no pro faller... Ill probably never!!! Be as good as some of the guys on here, but in the time I have cut timber I have learned bore cutting has its place... As do wedges. If you know what your doing you can "walk around" trees and rarely use wedges except to keep your kerf open.
Stay thirsty my friends (for wood chips )
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[c5rulz]

Thanks for all the kind words.:msp_unsure:


I am a firewood bandit doing some changes in my yard. These hybrid poplars were planted in 1991 and obviously have grown well. The one stump was 36x40". As these trees have gotten bigger the roots have surfaced and make mowing difficult on the steep slope. I can't imagine how much a tree service would have charged to take these down and remove, but I am sure the price of two 372XP's wouldn't cover it.

So a buddy comes over drops these without incident and doesn't destroy the neighbors chains link fence or a very nice honey locust in very high wind safely, I thinkthat is a good thing. Keith didn't charge me a dime for this or the 5 more big trees in the back yard where I am expanding my apple orchard next spring with another 27 trees.

The purpose of this post is not to impress the proffessionals here, but to show us firewood hacks some decent pictures of felling/falling or whatever you want to call it. I did not hear much criticism of the stumps and results.

Remember, in kindergarten they taught me, "If you don't have something good to say, then ####". (the editing software is smarter than I thought) LOL

Peace, I am going to get a burning permit today and deal with the brush, my neighbor has an OWB and will take the wood.:msp_thumbup:

 

[Gologit]

Thanks for all the kind words.:msp_unsure:






The purpose of this post is not to impress the proffessionals here, but to show us firewood hacks some decent pictures of felling/falling or whatever you want to call it. I did not hear much criticism of the stumps and results.

Remember, in kindergarten they taught me, "If you don't have something good to say, then ####". (the editing software is smarter than I thought) LOL

:hmm3grin2orange: Well, what did you expect? You might have gotten away with posting that stuff in the Homeowner thread or maybe in the Firewood thread and been treated in a gentler manner. They would have patted you on your head and told you what a fine job your buddy did. Hey, man applies saw to tree, eventually tree falls over...good job, no? No. They don't know any better but that's okay.

But you posted your pictures in the Logging thread and left yourself wide open. :smile2: Those of us who make our living with a saw usually don't shy away from commenting on something that we think isn't right. We're not always very tactful but our meaning in usually clear. East or west, it doesn't matter...we're all pretty much on the same page.

It was good of your friend to help you out...he gets points for that. But don't expect us to condone what we see as foolishness. And don't expect us to keep quiet about it either. That's asking a little too much.


Edit...And there was some criticism of the stumps. I think the term "gnawed on by a rabid beaver" was used.

 

[Sport Faller]

Thanks for all the kind words.:msp_unsure:


I am a firewood bandit doing some changes in my yard. These hybrid poplars were planted in 1991 and obviously have grown well. The one stump was 36x40". As these trees have gotten bigger the roots have surfaced and make mowing difficult on the steep slope. I can't imagine how much a tree service would have charged to take these down and remove, but I am sure the price of two 372XP's wouldn't cover it.

So a buddy comes over drops these without incident and doesn't destroy the neighbors chains link fence or a very nice honey locust in very high wind safely, I thinkthat is a good thing. Keith didn't charge me a dime for this or the 5 more big trees in the back yard where I am expanding my apple orchard next spring with another 27 trees.

The purpose of this post is not to impress the proffessionals here, but to show us firewood hacks some decent pictures of felling/falling or whatever you want to call it. I did not hear much criticism of the stumps and results.

Remember, in kindergarten they taught me, "If you don't have something good to say, then ####". (the editing software is smarter than I thought) LOL

Peace, I am going to get a burning permit today and deal with the brush, my neighbor has an OWB and will take the wood.:msp_thumbup:

I'm a firewood hack, your friend Keith is just a regular hack

and no, those aren't decent, my stumps looked like dog#### when I started too, but I listened to people here and didn't get all huffy and farty, and more importantly I stayed away from Bo-tards like Keith who could get your ass mangled or killed

 

[Gologit]

I'm a firewood hack, your friend Keith is just a regular hack

and no, those aren't decent, my stumps looked like dog#### when I started too, but I listened to people here and didn't get all huffy and farty, and more importantly I stayed away from Bo-tards like Keith who could get your ass mangled or killed

Hey Big Guy...don't sweet-talk 'em like that. Tell 'em what you really think. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[slowp]

Being certified to cut for the Forest Service does not mean one is ready to go out and make a living as a faller.

The certification system was put in place to prevent the guys who barely knew how to start a chainsaw from stopping by to buy a chainsaw on their way to the fire, and then getting put on the line as a faller--probably promptly being taken off the line after the falling boss saw them at work, and sent home. In the past, this was becoming a problem on the huge fires.

The Forest Service stresses SAFETY. Not speed, not production, not saving out the logs. Get the tree down, in a safe manner.

I've helped on some of the campground trees. Helped as a traffic control/people blocker. Before one of those comes down, the area is patrolled. We helpers are given a radio and told to stay at least twice the distance of the tree away. The fallers clear out escape routes, then start cutting. Before the final cut begins, the faller gets on the radio, informs everybody that he's about to let it go, and makes sure the area is clear of people. Then the tree goes down. Everybody stays in place until the go ahead comes through from the faller on the radio.

I haven't been on the fireline since the falling certification came into place. There has been one death of a fire crew member, who was too close to the area and was hit by the tree.

FS fallers don't get as much falling time as production fallers do. The budget is lean, there isn't a lot of time for training or practice. That's why we have contracts with production fallers.

Both have their place. And, like fallers, the folks who are in the fire business with the FS are godlike. They are commonly referred to as The Fire Gods by us lowly timber beasties. :biggrin:

We commoners grumble about having to go out in all weather, to get a timber target met, whilst our brethern in the fire shop must do "training" (which would drive me crazy) and sit back with feet on desk, and designing their T-Shirts for next season.:hmm3grin2orange: Meanwhile we are out slapping up tags and flagging, or harassing the production fallers and loggers.

The Fire Gods must retire early. Their knees go bad from the desk elevation. :mad2:

I will refrain from the discussion of the Stick Walk. I've done enough poking at the Fire Gods here. I do have friends who are/were Fire Gods.

 

[coastalfaller]

Here in BC where certification is mandatory, a common refrain that is quite often heard is "certified DOES NOT mean qualified".

 

[RandyMac]

Here in BC where certification is mandatory, a common refrain that is quite often heard is "certified DOES NOT mean qualified".

Sad, but true, paper trumps ability and not just in Forestry and Logging.

Back when chainsaws were loud and made of metal, you didn't get your card signed until you proved your ability.

 

[OH_Varmntr]

Hold on now, guys/gals in the Forestry and Logging Forum ruffling feathers?! I don't believe it...

I'm a firewood hack, your friend Keith is just a regular hack

and no, those aren't decent, my stumps looked like dog#### when I started too, but I listened to people here and didn't get all huffy and farty, and more importantly I stayed away from Bo-tards like Keith who could get your ass mangled or killed

You hit that right on the head. I'm just starting out gaining knowledge and little experience on how to properly fall trees. Mine looked terrible until I applied what I was taught by the knowledgeable folks here and now I can see improvement, as can those who have been doing the guiding for me. I've got a long way to go yet and I know it too, but hell I think even my stumps look better than that stuff. I'm a firewood hack too. Maybe I need to get certified...

 

[Sport Faller]

Hold on now, guys/gals in the Forestry and Logging Forum ruffling feathers?! I don't believe it...



You hit that right on the head. I'm just starting out gaining knowledge and little experience on how to properly fall trees. Mine looked terrible until I applied what I was taught by the knowledgeable folks here and now I can see improvement, as can those who have been doing the guiding for me. I've got a long way to go yet and I know it too, but hell I think even my stumps look better than that stuff. I'm a firewood hack too. Maybe I need to get certified...

Oh hell yeah, we can be the first 2 certed Firewood Hacks on AS

I hereby dub thee OH_Varminter the Certified :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[coastalfaller]

Sad, but true, paper trumps ability and not just in Forestry and Logging.

Back when chainsaws were loud and made of metal, you didn't get your card signed until you proved your ability.

Yep, quite often all that certification means is that they're now ready to actually start learning to be a faller, all of it. The theory, the practical end and what is equally important, but quite often lost now a days, the faller's etiquette and all that encompasses. Being respectful of the job and the people that are teaching you how to stay alive..... and do it productively. Losing the attitude. The little things, like if you mess up and brush up your partner, cleaning it up for him, not walking away from it! Not creaming a patch and leaving the crap for your partner. Working a face properly with your partner, etc, etc

 

[Joe46]

But he used BLUE wedges. A feller just can't get a break.

 

[madhatte]

Blue wedges are OK. I'll use 'em, voluntarily even. However, I won't make a stump that looks like a spiral-cut ham if I don't have to.

 

[slowp]

I have TWO blue wedges, but I haven't used them yet. I really like the pink ones but they clash with my saw. Wedges have a short life with me so I only buy the ones in the bin in the sale section. 'cept I did splurge on the blue ones just for show.

 

[OH_Varmntr]

Oh hell yeah, we can be the first 2 certed Firewood Hacks on AS

I hereby dub thee OH_Varminter the Certified :hmm3grin2orange:

Master Firewood Hack, sir...



Now where the hell are my blue wedges...

 

[Sport Faller]

Master Firewood Hack, sir...



Now where the hell are my blue wedges...

Damifino, I did get a couple neon green wedges for Christmas from in-laws though, they're slick as an otters ass and I get the feeling that they might spit out waaaay easier than my K&H's

 

[OH_Varmntr]

I was given some yellow Oregon wedges and those things LAUNCH outta there!

Guess I need to do some research on what to buy.

 

[Sport Faller]

I was given some yellow Oregon wedges and those things LAUNCH outta there!

Guess I need to do some research on what to buy.

i loooove my K&H (white with Red Head) wedges, nice and wide with a grippy texture, a little more spendy than your average bear but IMHO worth it