Pioneer chainsaws

[p61 western]

Sorry for the messed up format, my phone is giving me trouble.

 

[leecopland]

Well you must have tried several time!

I have a Poulan Pro 415 in a box that I'm girding my loins to get started on! P&C look very good but the saw has been beat pretty badly. Time will tell. 65cc which is a nice size. Carb is a Walbro WJ20A

 

[Beavers]

Here is my P42 pics of my lgn phelon l am using the optional air cleaner setup with the full wrap Handle. lt does seem to date the P42ssh as early production models which l would not of thought of for some reason.
Maybe some other members can add/share their knowledge a little more than l can.
l think member P62 has a P42 saw and will contact him.

 

[Beavers]

Well you must have tried several time!

I have a Poulan Pro 415 in a box that I'm girding my loins to get started on! P&C look very good but the saw has been beat pretty badly. Time will tell. 65cc which is a nice size. Carb is a Walbro WJ20A

Pics please

 

[p61 western]

Here is my P42 pics of my lgn phelon l am using the optional air cleaner setup with the full wrap Handle. lt does seem to date the P42ssh as early production models which l would not of thought of for some reason.
Maybe some other members can add/share their knowledge a little more than l can.
l think member P62 has a P42 saw and will contact him.

I have been talking with Jeff about this saw thru email, but haven't heard from him for a little bit. My p52 western has the newer coil. I'm not really sure what to think about the ignition. It's possible the top end was swapped, but I would think they would have went with the newer set up. Are you going to use the factory K&N set up on your p42? I found another base, but it showed up without a filter. I would really like to find a filter for it.

 

[Beavers]

l have 5 or 6 of those new K&N set ups here and a used one. l do not believe the K&N was optional for the model saw but it will fit. l could always put on saw and take a pic for now.
Will contact Jeff .

 

[brandonstc6]

I am not going to split the case on my p51. I can't get the screws loose. Does anyone know if it uses a SKF 6119?

The pipe fitting trick did work on my junk spare cases.


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[p61 western]

I am not going to split the case on my p51. I can't get the screws loose. Does anyone know if it uses a SKF 6119?

The pipe fitting trick did work on my junk spare cases.


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I'm not sure if you asking about the seals or the bearings, so I will give both numbers. The skf seals part # is 5606. The bearings are 6202c3 and that goes for any brand. Good luck with your project. Oh and national seals are part #472705

 

[brandonstc6]

I'm not sure if you asking about the seals or the bearings, so I will give both numbers. The skf seals part # is 5606. The bearings are 6202c3 and that goes for any brand. Good luck with your project. Oh and national seals are part #472705

Thanks. I have a good case with good bearings, so I think I'll just replace the seals. I'm working on a P51/P52 hybrid


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[rocketnorton]

iso farmsaw rings and maybe piston. any ideas appreciated.

 

[fossil]

iso farmsaw rings and maybe piston. any ideas appreciated.

I think those are cast rings. Measure up the rings and the cylinder bore and contact DLA Engine parts and see if he can help you. He found a set in his stock rings that fit my PM Canadien Skil. Cheap and fast shipping. Caber rings.

 

[rocketnorton]

thx tim, will do.

 

[Hoggwood]

Check out Buckin' Billy Ray killing it with a P60 in a new video today. His enthusiasm is genuinely infectious. Classic line about 7:45 in. "That's crazy, it's a beautiful, beautiful saw...gotta get out the 797 before this log disappears under the wrath of the P60." Sounding sweeeet. He starts punishing the big Doug about 2:20 in or so. Nice detail at 1080p.

 

[p61 western]

Check out Buckin' Billy Ray killing it with a P60 in a new video today. His enthusiasm is genuinely infectious. Classic line about 7:45 in. "That's crazy, it's a beautiful, beautiful saw...gotta get out the 797 before this log disappears under the wrath of the P60." Sounding sweeeet. He starts punishing the big Doug about 2:20 in or so. Nice detail at 1080p.

I wonder if we will start to see Pioneers in the saw room lol.

 

[Walter Glover]

Fellas, can someone help me with what are the differences between all the 51cc Pioneers. P20 25 28 etc then 1073 1074 etc?
Have a P28 with anti vibe and now found a P25 that I pick up tomorrow. Curious mainly about the P25 vs 1074?
Cheers

 

[Walter Glover]

Brought the P25 home yesterday. Man they are small for the 51cc engine eh! Pulled carb and seller had the gasket against carb instead of pump diaphragm
Had the other side cover upside down lol. Carb back together, fresh gas and she was running. Needs a new chain as whoever was intending to sharpen it was clueless. Will try a grinding to attempt a save for now. The clutch was very well lubricated for some reason so slipping like crazy. Removed and cleaned but still slips. Working with Brendon for a fix. Nice little saw and a great addition to the Pioneer line up at my house.
Cheers
Walter

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

More P60 from Buckin Billy Ray starting around 15:45 in...

 

[p61 western]

More P60 from Buckin Billy Ray starting around 15:45 in...

I saw this today, I think he's liking that p60 for sure. I think it's really cool seeing a old Pioneer get some attention like this. I have to admit, I also really like his channel.

 

[leecopland]

View attachment 588337 View attachment 588338 Brought the P25 home yesterday. Man they are small for the 51cc engine eh! Pulled carb and seller had the gasket against carb instead of pump diaphragm
Had the other side cover upside down lol. Carb back together, fresh gas and she was running. Needs a new chain as whoever was intending to sharpen it was clueless. Will try a grinding to attempt a save for now. The clutch was very well lubricated for some reason so slipping like crazy. Removed and cleaned but still slips. Working with Brendon for a fix. Nice little saw and a great addition to the Pioneer line up at my house.
Cheers
Walter

About the only difference between my 1073 and P25 is the size and shape of the air cleaner and AC cover. Not interchangeable. They will numb your hands in about 15 minutes and boil the fuel in 30 on a hot day. But they are fun saw for occasional use.

 

[rocketnorton]

View attachment 588337 View attachment 588338 Brought the P25 home yesterday. Man they are small for the 51cc engine eh! Pulled carb and seller had the gasket against carb instead of pump diaphragm
Had the other side cover upside down lol. Carb back together, fresh gas and she was running. Needs a new chain as whoever was intending to sharpen it was clueless. Will try a grinding to attempt a save for now. The clutch was very well lubricated for some reason so slipping like crazy. Removed and cleaned but still slips. Working with Brendon for a fix. Nice little saw and a great addition to the Pioneer line up at my house.
Cheers
Walter

had prolly 6 or more 1073/4, p26. some clutches were wore bad. not obvious til theres a good one to compare to. might have a spare.

my mix of p26/1074...