power pruner container/holder

[Nickrosis]

I'm not joking. I don't wear a hard hat when I'm driving, and I don't wear a mouthgard for running.

But I'll wear a seat belt in the car, a hard hat during tree care operations, and a pair of chaps when I'm on the ground with a saw. In the course of a day of tree work, it really only amounts to a couple of minutes for me. Nearly all saw work is done in the tree, and I'm usually on the ground anyways. So just chip the brush and occasionally drop a stub or fell a tree or cut a piece into firewood or cut it smaller so it fits in the chipper. That totals up to less than five minutes a day for me on an average day.

 

[Nickrosis]

I can't believe I'm getting this flack after getting laughed off this site because I wear chaps on the ground.... Just search for "chaps nick" on this site, and you'll find my beloved "Attitudes towards safety" thread.

 

[xander9727]

Nick,
Reread your posts. You say that a gas powered/chainsaw pole pruner is dangerous overhead. Wouldn't that make all pole saws too dangerous to use overhead? Why does a chain type cutter make it inherently more dangerous? I can cut a 6" dia. branch with a coventional pole saw! If safety is your concern then why not wear chaps because they're safe? Be a free thinker, follow the rules but use your head. Just because there isn' t a law saying not to poke my finger in my eye doesn't make it OK. Don't flame spray me, I like you and think your a smart, ambitious guy with limitless potential. However, your having a bit of a brain fart with this issue.

My $.02

 

[John Stewart]

Hey Nick
So you do agree about the need for chainsaw pants in the tree!
It is just that you don't get up much.
That's cool just don't get lulled into following rules and use your head when it comes to thinking out of the box
I really do worry about people like that and just for the record I make all of the crew including myself where chainsaw pants. Even if he is just haulin brush he can still get hurt.
I consider you as one of us and you are quiet smart and when your like that people expect more out of you
So my replies were meant to make you think and that is all
Sometimes emotion gets in the way of good intentions
Sorry
Take Care
John

 

[MasterBlaster]

I'd get some chaps, if I had me a horsie...

 

[MasterBlaster]

Or, if I hung with these guys...

 

[John Stewart]

Hey Butch isn't that the guys that drive those orange trucks?

 

[MasterBlaster]

Only the macho ones!

 

[Nickrosis]

Originally posted by xander9727
Nick,
Reread your posts. You say that a gas powered/chainsaw pole pruner is dangerous overhead. Wouldn't that make all pole saws too dangerous to use overhead?

This is a philosophy that I've had for a while, not something I just came up with when I saw the thread.

You can do a lot more damage with a power tool.

A hand tool can be handled in this instance with more precision. It's much easier to make a precise collar cut with a pole saw.

In both instances, you have something falling from over your head. With a pole pruner, the air is quiet, and you can very slowly make the finishing cut.

With a pole saw, I'm making a cut no bigger than 4" or 5" in diameter. You can cut a lot more wood with a power saw.

ANSI says don't cut with a saw over your head. Perhaps a contradiction?

I don't like the idea of a chainsaw on a stick. Lollipops or suckers please, but not a spin chain above me.

And chaps? I'm done arguing this. I don't own chainsaw pants that fit me any more...I outgrew even the elastic waistband. If I have the money this winter, I'll buy a pair because they're great insulation along with the protection. But it's not a high priority for me, in part because I don't climb every day and because it's not a requirement.

 

[rumination]

Nick,

I will agree that the power pruner poses some unique safety issues, having done the cut and dodge maneuver with it before. That being said, there are times when a chainsaw on a stick can be the safest tool to use. Have you ever tried releasing the tension on big aerial roots on a large tipped over banyan? Believe me, you want to be as far away as possible when that wood releases with incredible power in unpredictable directions.

I don't use the power pruner much but when I do I'm glad I have it!

 

[Nickrosis]

Can't say I've found a banyan in my Wisconsin backyard. Yet....

But a pole saw could do that job as well, couldn't it?

 

[rumination]

Originally posted by Nickrosis
Can't say I've found a banyan in my Wisconsin backyard. Yet....

But a pole saw could do that job as well, couldn't it?

Not unless you got arms like Popeye!

Seriously, though, the specific tree I am remembering had numerous aerial roots that were almost a foot in diameter, and under extreme tension. Even with the power pruner it took a lot of little nips and cuts just to keep from getting the bar snatched. And then...KAPWOING! the thing would release like a gargantuan spring.

Like I said it's a tool I rarely use, but there are those occasional times when it makes life so much easier, and sometimes safer too.

 

[ORclimber]

Using a power pruner effectively is an art. Try swinging a hydraulic stick chainsaw out of a bucket around high voltage power lines and keeping your brush from landing on the lines or cars below. It's amazing what you can do with a chainsaw on a stick with practice. Anyone dropping limbs on their head needs to work on their technique. Slice cut, snap cut, and face/backcut, or just ripping it over(removal only), standing off to the side????, taking shorter pieces good places to start. Next step, time the release and add a flick of pressure to get the limb to land how and where you want it. Making proper cuts is just about positioning, technique, and sharp chain. If you can't get a good angle or the crotch is too tight to make the cut without damaging remaining bark then another tool is called for.

 

[John Stewart]

Nick
It is not the tool that use that is the issue
You can hurt yourself cutting a limb over your head just as easy as a hand saw!
You can't make a better collar cut with a pole saw either cause you have the same vantage point as you do with a chainsaw on a stick
You just tend to do smaller cuts with the pole saw
If you know how to use one you can make a nice slow cut with the chainsaw on a stick as well, it is the pressure you apply to it not how loud it is that makes it cut faster
If you use it right it is OK if you use it wrong chainsaw pant's or not your going to get bit!
Later
John

 

[John Stewart]

Originally posted by rumination
Nick,

I will agree that the power pruner poses some unique safety issues, having done the cut and dodge maneuver with it before. That being said, there are times when a chainsaw on a stick can be the safest tool to use. Have you ever tried releasing the tension on big aerial roots on a large tipped over banyan? Believe me, you want to be as far away as possible when that wood releases with incredible power in unpredictable directions.

I don't use the power pruner much but when I do I'm glad I have it!

I have used it to cut the back strap on a severe leaner after using a bore cut to set it up
16ft puts you way a way from that possible barber chair
This is a good thing
Later
John

 

[John Stewart]

Originally posted by aussie_lopa
i dont think anyone here wants you in suit and tie yet nick so what do people use to store a ht75 cmon some one must use something

Do you want something portable or just some where to keep it clean on the truck?
I've used the ladder box the last 2yrs and before that I stuck it in the frame of the chip box just above the pintal hitch. There is usually space there and let it sit on the cross members of the frame of your truck.
The chip box lifts but the chainsaw on the stick stays on the frame of the truck
The reason we moved it was the road salt was playing murder on it in the winter
Later
John

 

[a_lopa]

So what are people using to cart there pole saws around???

 

[ROPECLIMBER]

I bought mine for some blow overs to do under cuts to be out of the role zone, and hardly use it but built plywood tunnle moxes on inside of dump box left for short extension latter for roof access and pight for my poles and power prunner and 192 and 200
I agree with nick about prunning with it I have taken a few old knubs off that previous guy left on lower branches when climbing line was already in the bag, but try to use it just for removals is great on small dead removals when un safe to climb and no felling room
Paul

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