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like i suggested put the saws in the hands of loggers who will put them through their paces and see whos saw has the longevity and will also show what the weaknesses are and maybe point out what can be done to improve on the product your making a living doing

I think it can help the new guys who have no notion of anyone or anything make up their own minds about where/how/who/what way they want to spend their own money instead of being bombarded about whats best by fan boys on either side of the spectrum who really have no idea or base what they say on what they have been told instead of personal experience.

If i listened to everything i have ever been told on arboristsite or by members of arboristsite i dont think id like or trust anybody...i make my OWN decisions based on MY experiences.

I still cant say i have a dog in this fight and 99% of the people that engage dont either , I know that i have tried what is deemed BEST on here and that wasnt my experience at all , but atleast i tried it.

I think its funny guys say brad looks like freddie mercury :laugh:

I suppose the debate will go on and on :laugh:
 
I dont care if people say brad is the biggest crybaby b!tch that ever lived..its not my problem.

I dont care if randy is the greatest guy in the galaxy...he seems like a charitable guy..thats a good thing.

I dont care if scott has a nice avatar and is a very smart fella who builds a really nasty 064..awesome.

I care how MY saws run , im never gonna meet any of those guys in person..ever..and if i did id probably get along with all of them , apparently saw performace is someting to be mortal enemies over..as pathetic as that is.

I get along with people ive lost to and beaten in all sorts of things..life is bigger than that to me.

Ive had issues with people on here , and the only 2 people that know are me and the other party..we worked it out , i could have created a lynch mob and acted like a certified poo-tang about it..i didnt..theres some bad cases of vagitosis on this forum..real bad.
 
As a saw builder, does it bother you that your customers could get annoyed with a saw that fails or performs poorly through no fault of your work and for unknown reasons? Wouldn't that lead to a pretty serious potential loss for the customer and a risk to your reputation even if you did nothing wrong?

I was recently quoted AU$750 for the modding work for 661 work saws. That was a $100 premium over other saws. Not something I could justify but I wonder if the additional hundy was to cover the risks.

@blsnelling was this saw yours or a customer? If it was a customer saw I'm curious how you handled it. Seems to me you put a lot of time/money into figuring this saw out and as it turns out it was nothing you did or could have foreseen.
 
Case on point. Demonstrating who builds the stronger saw will do nothing to do stop the fighting. Besides, I already know where my saw stands anyway.
That's a very bold statement (if you weren't physically there). In my mind there is far to many factors involved to call from a short youtube video.

Stating an observation, not taking sides here.
 
I don't understand.
What i'm saying is how do you know the owner of the saws (I hear he has a tree service company) didnt run Randy's 261 with the same chain the day before on a job?
Also the saw you build him could have 20+ tanks of fuel through it (good and broke in). Randy's saw could have been a fresh saw just built with hardly any run time on it.

Does that make sense?
 
What i'm saying is how do you know the owner of the saws (I hear he has a tree service company) didnt run Randy's 261 with the same chain the day before on a job?
Also the saw you build him could have 20+ tanks of fuel through it (good and broke in). Randy's saw could have been a fresh saw just built with hardly any run time on it.

Does that make sense?
I didn't know what video you were referring to. I was talking about the 661.
 
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