Pulling over a cottonwood - need help

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Ummmm i still kinda like high leverage pull line in direction of gunned face to force hinge stronger in opposite and equal reaction gives best control in good wood. i like to apply that with a rotaional force of line going around spar or over the top.

Liking such force too in rigging; even though a linear force to rig across etc., applying it with some torqued rotation. Though in rigging horizontals, you don't have the inherent pressure on the hinge of tree pushing down, and tension has to supply force for all such support alone; unless tension angle is back into the hinge itself with a tight line.

Similarily to torqued motion, one can push a door open with a straight of hand movement only, or push as hand also rolls into the door, bringing the distance of the turn in the hand as a compounding action to the straight arm movement. If spin in hand comes before or after door contact instead; force is not captured into opening the door i think. But if forward motion and hand spin contact door, both work in unison, and less effort is needed; or the same effort yields more i think; the distance avalable is used more strategically.

i think tree must fall to balance of pushes and pulls, and a tapered hinge is a force multiplier. The more line pull direction is not in line with gunned apex of face, but counters sidelean more directly/ linearally; the hinge is unloaded from that task. But the more direction is to apex of face, the balance must come from the hinge, so the line pull msut go through this multiplier to adjust balance of sidelean. More of an indirect, arched effort to adjsut the sidelean.

In this mechanichs, indirect is good, as long as that longer path can be concentrated into the work, not just extra movement wasted without target. Arching/spinning gives this in the same amount of available distance as just a linear 'attack'.

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Originally posted by OutOnaLimb
Oh and for the record Nick that tree is tiny compared to the one Justin showed me last week when I went down there to climb for him.

Kenn:Monkey:
Duly noted. I appreciate that. :rolleyes:

It's a pretty big tree for Iowa.
 
I should have taken a pic of it when I was down there, but maybe we can talk Justin into taking a pic of that mammoth tree for us.

Kenn
 
About 10 years ago (or so) my favorite salesman sent me to take two limbs off of a cottonwood. "Half a day no problem, the bucket was there yesterday and reached whatever it could."
This tree must have been a renegade from whenever New England was clear cut, twa's huge! One limb was growing directly over our clients house, the other over the neighbors pool.
How fast was this guy driveing when he priced this job was my first thought. Besides other thoughts which can not be posted on this site.
Postage stamp yards, had to rope everything, not a twig could be dropped.
The dude showed up around 11 am, while I was still out over the roof piecing (sp) out the limb with an 066. With another work order for the rest of the day.
Three day's later we were still there quarteing the wood with a maul so two of us could hand load the wood in the back of the truck, big time submarine job!!!
Sorry to ramble, in response to the original post. Felling a whole popalar or butt the hinge is usually very reliable and predictable and can be trusted very well but horizontal limbs pop and can not be controled very well. simaler (sp) to a Norway Maple, very hard to steer.
Just my opinion.

T
 

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