Purchasing a new chipper

[galtre]

Hi guys. This is my first post.I have been checking on this site regularly for some time.Everyone is helpful with advice-for the most part.And very knowledgeable.Here is my question.I will be purchasing a new chipper soon and would appreciate any recommedations,comments,criticizms etc.I have a small tree care co. and I am interested in a 1590xp 25th anniv. model -saw it at the TCIA show what do you think?Thanks in advance!

 

[treesquirrel]

Make sure you will have the consistant biz to support the payments unless of course you can pay cash.

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

Watch out for preditory lenders & with the economic forecast, well time will tell !!!

 

[CLEARVIEW TREE]

old chip's right. Sit tite, be patient. If you've got some capital just find a good used one and pay cash. Work it, and plan for the new one and then put somethin down on the newbie and you still will have a backup unit and know what you got when you need it. You can have anything as long as you plan for it.:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[treeslayer666]

Buy It

I just bought a new 1590, 90% of my jobs are removals, limited trimming and it eats everything except the butts. Packs the chip truck nice & tight. Great machine. Stimulate the economy and buy something.

 

[pdqdl]

New chipper !

Not familiar with a 1590xp, so I can't advise you on that.

Are you very mechanically inclined? Used chippers come with a host of technical difficulties for the inexperienced, and dealers are not inclined to educate you for free.

Beware buying any discontinued used models: that's how I got started. Not surprisingly, they are often cheaper than you expect them to be, until you discover the hard part of the deal.

Avoid drum chippers without a hydraulic feed. They work just fine, but they beat the crew to exhaustion feeding them.

You can usually buy a new chipper for much better financing terms (length of loan, interest rate) than on a used unit. If it breaks, and you are already poor from your payments, nothing beats having a dealer to do a warranty repair.

If you are in the business for real, but still kind of small, buy the smallest chipper you can find that will be able to handle the biggest job you expect to do on a regular basis. Don't waste your time on any small capacity chippers (6"-9"), unless you are going to haul it with a pickup and only trim small trees.

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

Read your new purchase warranty with care. If the warranty is good for 1yr. & finance 60-72 mo. then you have to calculate 4-5 yrs. worth of parts & labor & add it to the cost. Finance $15,000 @7% 60mo. term $297.02 mo. = $17821.20 or 48 mo.term $359.20 = $17,241.60 . Allowable depreciation 5-7yrs. the machine should be worth 1/3 original purchase price, when paid off. I don't know what interest rates are available or term of finance. Don't forget routine maintenence, knives, tires, fuel, oil , air & fuel filters, tune-ups & misc. breaks that require welding. New machines are great, but look at service,parts availability,proximity to dealership & warranty. Cost of replacement parts should be factored in. Shop wisely & be informed !:deadhorse

 

[capetrees]

Take a look in here

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=63092

 

[kennertree]

That 1590 is an awesome machine. What did they quote you on the price if you don't mind me asking?

 

[treeslayer666]

Bandit 1590

List price was just over $46k. That's with the winch package includes height adj chute, lift cylinder, auto feed plus, extendable tongue, cone holder, John Deer 140hp, block heater, and twin disk clutch. Worth every penny, I really believe ( if properly maintained ) its a ten year machine.

 

[Gunsmoke]

Treeslayer.... your pic/avatar is gonna give me nightmares!:hmm3grin2orange:

Hey I use to sell Bandits and like I was tellin Slvrmaple these chippers are very good machines. I only grind stumps... but if was tree service I would no doubt buy a Bandit. I own a Carlton grinder only because I would demo against Carlton, Rayco, Vermeer and Carlton was the only stumper that would make me lose a deal. But chipper wise I would smoke the comp.
w/ my Bandits. I don't work for the dealership anymore but I still go for Bandits hands down! I'm also a HUGE CAT man and some would argue that there equip. isn't that great.... just opinions!

 

[mckeetree]

Not familiar with a 1590xp, so I can't advise you on that.

Are you very mechanically inclined? Used chippers come with a host of technical difficulties for the inexperienced, and dealers are not inclined to educate you for free.

Beware buying any discontinued used models: that's how I got started. Not surprisingly, they are often cheaper than you expect them to be, until you discover the hard part of the deal.

Avoid drum chippers without a hydraulic feed. They work just fine, but they beat the crew to exhaustion feeding them.

You can usually buy a new chipper for much better financing terms (length of loan, interest rate) than on a used unit. If it breaks, and you are already poor from your payments, nothing beats having a dealer to do a warranty repair.

If you are in the business for real, but still kind of small, buy the smallest chipper you can find that will be able to handle the biggest job you expect to do on a regular basis. Don't waste your time on any small capacity chippers (6"-9"), unless you are going to haul it with a pickup and only trim small trees.

Beat the crew to exhaustion???? That's what is wrong with some of you young guys. You are about as tough as a pair of panties full of wet light bread. I can feed one 10 hours no problem and I am 47 years old. My dad is 73 and he can feed a drum chipper 4 hours easy and not really be that tired.

 

[galtre]

thanks

Thanks for the thread capetrees.Kennertree -$40955.00 before a good sit down too see if I can beat them up a little more.The machine is well equipped, winch,lift cylinder,automatic feed plus,aluminum wheels,diamond plate fenders/toolboxes etc. It is about $5500.00 more than the 250xp 12" disc,seems worth it.Treeslayer, is there anything I should know about? I am going to see Dave from Cleaves for a demo the end of this week.All of you other guys thanks for the input.

 

[treeslayer666]

Bandit 1590

$40,995 is a hell of a price. I don't know if you could get them down anymore but you never know. I saw that ann. edition 1590 at cleaves when I was checking out my 007xp. The ann edition has a CAT, I went with the 007xp with the Deere. I did notice the weight difference between the 1590 and my vermeer 1400 when loaded. What are you using for a tow vehicle? I have a GMC 5500 4x4 with the Duramax 300hp and I think I'm gonna get a Banks kit to wake here up a bit. Anyway you wont be sorry with the 1590 its no joke.

 

[Slvrmple72]

You are about as tough as a pair of panties full of wet light bread.

I cant stop laughing! Best quote ever!:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[tree MDS]

$40,995 is a hell of a price. I don't know if you could get them down anymore but you never know. I saw that ann. edition 1590 at cleaves when I was checking out my 007xp. The ann edition has a CAT, I went with the 007xp with the Deere. I did notice the weight difference between the 1590 and my vermeer 1400 when loaded. What are you using for a tow vehicle? I have a GMC 5500 4x4 with the Duramax 300hp and I think I'm gonna get a Banks kit to wake here up a bit. Anyway you wont be sorry with the 1590 its no joke.

Sounds like you got some sick equipment, I'm jealous-cool avatar too.

 

[pdqdl]

It's not about being tough, it's about making a better living !

Beat the crew to exhaustion???? That's what is wrong with some of you young guys. You are about as tough as a pair of panties full of wet light bread. I can feed one 10 hours no problem and I am 47 years old. My dad is 73 and he can feed a drum chipper 4 hours easy and not really be that tired.

That's the whole point, isn't it? As it is, I am older than you by a little bit, and I think the young guys are soft as well. Unfortunately, that is just the pool of people I must hire from. So... I got a machine that lets me make money with them, instead of obliging me to complain about their lack of production at the end of the day.

The difference is this: a machine with a hydraulic feed is a relief to walk up to, because the work of dragging the brush is almost over. An open throat drum chipper is the nightmare at the end of dragging the brush. Louder, vastly more dangerous, and they take more time to feed as well.

After 10 hours of dragging brush, do you really feel like outrunning a thorny locust branch whipping at you from your drum chipper ?

 

[pdqdl]

...You are about as tough as ...

A bit presumptious, aren't you? I have not made any statements about my "toughness". I'll be happy to swap stories about our relative experiences, and when we are done wasting time boasting, perhaps one of us will feel better.

I doubt if I will feel any better about myself, as I am already pretty happy with myself, and see no point in being "tough". I don't know many people "tougher" than me, as I work every day with a bunch of crippling injuries. If I wasn't so tough, I probably would be a lot healthier, with fewer injuries.

Working smarter is better than working harder.

 

[masterarbor]

opcorn:

 

[ropensaddle]

Beat the crew to exhaustion???? That's what is wrong with some of you young guys. You are about as tough as a pair of panties full of wet light bread. I can feed one 10 hours no problem and I am 47 years old. My dad is 73 and he can feed a drum chipper 4 hours easy and not really be that tired.

Could not agree more I am 45 and would rather feed a whisper all day than any high priced unit. If I wanted to buy a high priced unit it better have its own grapple not a winch just my thoughts! Why spend ten times the cost and not get what you are paying for? A tracked chipper with a grapple feed would be something worth having! I just stick with my 30 year old whisper that chips all day long for many years to come with little break downs.