Purchasing First Tree Chipper - Need Advice

[Brad Helm]

I'm brand new to the site and I am looking for some advice.

I am looking to purchase either a Bandit or Carlton Chipper (12" - 15"). I have been approved for the financing but I am wonder if it is good practice for a person to negotiate price on a new chipper with a dealer - and if so, how much a company might come down?

There is a company that is selling a pretty much new Carlton 2015 chipper (16 hour, 15" drum chipper w/140 hp John Deere engine): $56,000. Here's the link to the model on Carlton's website:

http://stumpcutters.com/wood-chippers/drum-style/2015-15-in-apache/

 

[treecutterjr]

Bandit

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[Brad Helm]

Either is a top quality machine. Bandit and Carlton were once joined at the hip. Same engineering standards. The question is not which chipper, but how much to negotiate price on a new machine.

 

[Blakesmaster]

Don't know much about Carlton but it should be very well optioned out at that price. For reference I bought my 1590 bandit with winch, weld down tray, and 142 Perkins for $49,500. Think he originally quoted me $5k more.

 

[Brad Helm]

Good to know! Should have mentioned the prices are in CAD funds. Carlton tells me the MSRP is USD $51,000, all the bells and whistles, not including shipping to Canada.

 

[Zale]

I've used Bandit 250xp for many years with no complaints. I don't think I've seen a Carlton chipper before in my area. Do you need all the bells and whistles? What type of work do you plan on doing with it?

 

[richard t]

I've used Bandit 250xp for many years with no complaints. I don't think I've seen a Carlton chipper before in my area. Do you need all the bells and whistles? What type of work do you plan on doing with it?

Chipping brush

 

[Affordabletree]

I bought a bandit 200xp with an 86hp cat diesel and 2600 hours for $12,500 and it has been the best chipper I have used to date. At davey I got to use a brand new 1390xp, a 1590xp and a well used 1890xp. I will never go back to a drum chipper. Disc is the way to go. I recently demoed 255xp from bandit and what a nice machine. I would go bandit all the way.

 

[Blakesmaster]

I bought a bandit 200xp with an 86hp cat diesel and 2600 hours for $12,500 and it has been the best chipper I have used to date. At davey I got to use a brand new 1390xp, a 1590xp and a well used 1890xp. I will never go back to a drum chipper. Disc is the way to go. I recently demoed 255xp from bandit and what a nice machine. I would go bandit all the way.

So what your saying is you're half a retard? I know a lot of dumb ****s but none dumb enough to choose a 200xp over a 1590.

 

[lone wolf]

Chipping brush

No logs?

 

[treevet]

buy slightly used and let some other tuhrd take the depreciation.

Match the chipper with what you got or plan to get. If you only small beans with small chip box and 1 ton chasis and no bucket, then all you need is 80 or 90 ponies diesel. If you got/getting a crane, bucket, log truck, 16 ft. chip box on a big truck...go for the 200 ponies and big throat.

 

[Affordabletree]

Blake I was just starting out when I go it and the price was right. The issue with drum chippers that I see is when you chip any sort of wood it throws chunks and not chips. If this summer keeps picking up like this spring has been for me. I will be upgrading some of my equipment. First to a gehl al340 wheel loader then to a 30yd chip truck then to a decent bucket truck. When you first started did you go out and buy a brand new 1590? When the time comes I will be buying a 255.

 

[Blakesmaster]

Blake I was just starting out when I go it and the price was right. The issue with drum chippers that I see is when you chip any sort of wood it throws chunks and not chips. If this summer keeps picking up like this spring has been for me. I will be upgrading some of my equipment. First to a gehl al340 wheel loader then to a 30yd chip truck then to a decent bucket truck. When you first started did you go out and buy a brand new 1590? When the time comes I will be buying a 255.

There's nothing wrong with running a 200xp. I still have mine and use it time to time. You're thoughts on drum chippers are without merit.

 

[Affordabletree]

There's nothing wrong with running a 200xp. I still have mine and use it time to time. You're thoughts on drum chippers are without merit.

I am sure that drum chippers when they are brand new chip great but I still can't get over how they just don't have the packing ability of a disc. To each his own style of chipper. I like disc and you like drum. My biggest this is fuel efficiency between the two the new ones at work just chipping brush and wood to 8" they take approx 15gal of diesel every two days. I just filled my chipper with 17 gallons of diesel. After running it for the last five days chipping brush and some 6-10" wood.

 

[sgreanbeans]

I'm with Dave, unless you are loaded to the gills, I wouldn't go out and buy a brand new one. Starting out, you wanna keep your debt as low as possible. U could find a pretty good machine for half that.

 

[sgreanbeans]

We had a 1590 and a bunch of 250xp's at Davey, the 250's, we always had problems with, the 1590 was a beast.

 

[Blakesmaster]

I am sure that drum chippers when they are brand new chip great but I still can't get over how they just don't have the packing ability of a disc. To each his own style of chipper. I like disc and you like drum. My biggest this is fuel efficiency between the two the new ones at work just chipping brush and wood to 8" they take approx 15gal of diesel every two days. I just filled my chipper with 17 gallons of diesel. After running it for the last five days chipping brush and some 6-10" wood.

My 1590 uses less fuel than my 200xp. Your blanket statements are simply ****ed. They each have their strong and weak points depending what you use them for, what engine you run, and how much you can invest in your equipment. Saying a disc is better across the board than a drum is dumb. As is saying the opposite.

 

[treevet]

drum's got way more mass to move and way more mass to stop hence you get more flywheel effect and inertia/momentum and therefore need less engine involvement than a disc imo. should be better on gas if designed properly.

 

[tree MDS]

drum's got way more mass to move and way more mass to stop hence you get more flywheel effect and inertia/momentum and therefore need less engine involvement than a disc imo. should be better on gas if designed properly.

Actually, I'm pretty sure its the other way around.

 

[Blakesmaster]

The mass of a drum is closer to its axis and therefore takes less energy to get going and less energy to stop. A disc is the opposite. Still many factors based on total drum/disc weight , horse power and type of engine to make a claim across the board that one is more or less efficient than the other.