Really, what wit all these old dudes?

[chad556]

Here is a shot of Paul Bunyan/ Yvon Chouinard's love child taking his first tentative steps into the canopy...

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FTA ya big galoot, how's tricks?

Ahhh, the one and only AA. Did he finally get driven off?

 

[the Aerialist]

Still standing, just taller now ...

Ahhh, the one and only AA. Did he finally get driven off?

Nah, I'm still standing, and the ice axes didn't really work out. I thought they would get me up a tree like a squirrel with a bottle rocket up his ass. I could set them in good wood enough to hold my weight one handed, it was getting them out that was the problem. Maybe I'll try the tip rope gave by waxing them up first. I still have them, but use them now for digging around stumps.

I've matured a bit since then. I guess to be honest I'm an adrenaline junky and tree work gives me the same thrill that I used to get from skydiving and aerobatic flying. I sold my last airplane and had more money than sense when I decided to get into this. It was that or golf to pass away my golden years.

I figured this tree work thing isn't rocket science (I was an Aerospace Technology major in college) I can do this. And you know, despite all the nay sayers here and elsewhere I was right. In my life I've been in a lot of dangerous and tricky places. I was getting fat and bored with nothing to do so I took the plunge as I always have.

When I was in the life I took on many roles and lived by my wits. I've been a Priest, my specialty was as a confessor, a soft one. Pity the people that did't confess their sins to me, because the next guy they'd meet had much sterner methods. I even performed a few marriages, and too many last rites. Missionary work can be exciting, like you wouldn't believe.

People love me or hate me, it's always been that way. I don't know if I'm blessed or just lucky. I hope it's the former because in my experience luck can turn on you if you're not careful. Most of you would like me if you met me I'm sure because I'm really a sweet sensitive guy.

I know I've gotten hot and abrasive here but at my age I don't take much sh*t anymore. I'm going to try to be nice now and not respond to the flames I create. If anyone has issues with me take it to a PM or come visit me and we'll talk. I'm planning on another parachute jump or two next Summer on my 65th birthday or there abouts. I've extended the invitation to make it an AS get together so we can all take a flying leap together. Any takers?

 

[treemandan]

Nah, I'm still standing, and the ice axes didn't really work out. I thought they would get me up a tree like a squirrel with a bottle rocket up his ass. I could set them in good wood enough to hold my weight one handed, it was getting them out that was the problem. Maybe I'll try the tip rope gave by waxing them up first. I still have them, but use them now for digging around stumps.

I've matured a bit since then. I guess to be honest I'm an adrenaline junky and tree work gives me the same thrill that I used to get from skydiving and aerobatic flying. I sold my last airplane and had more money than sense when I decided to get into this. It was that or golf to pass away my golden years.

I figured this tree work thing isn't rocket science (I was an Aerospace Technology major in college) I can do this. And you know, despite all the nay sayers here and elsewhere I was right. In my life I've been in a lot of dangerous and tricky places. I was getting fat and bored with nothing to do so I took the plunge as I always have.

When I was in the life I took on many roles and lived by my wits. I've been a Priest, my specialty was as a confessor, a soft one. Pity the people that did't confess their sins to me, because the next guy they'd meet had much sterner methods. I even performed a few marriages, and too many last rites. Missionary work can be exciting, like you wouldn't believe.

People love me or hate me, it's always been that way. I don't know if I'm blessed or just lucky. I hope it's the former because in my experience luck can turn on you if you're not careful. Most of you would like me if you met me I'm sure because I'm really a sweet sensitive guy.

I know I've gotten hot and abrasive here but at my age I don't take much sh*t anymore. I'm going to try to be nice now and not respond to the flames I create. If anyone has issues with me take it to a PM or come visit me and we'll talk. I'm planning on another parachute jump or two next Summer on my 65th birthday or there abouts. I've extended the invitation to make it an AS get together so we can all take a flying leap together. Any takers?

yeah, I hear ya pops... over the sound of FTA mouth farting. Give em Hell and all, at least you go out and do the work. I would probably do some work with you, I mean you are crazy and can move quick, just don't be tryin to involve me in some real ####ey do BS with a lawnmower.I can't be on a job were people are goofing around with that sort of yackassery when then should be paying full attention to me telling them how it gonna go down. Hey, its not like I am egomanic, I listen and heed when others have ideas, well as long as they are mot stupit ideas, or even ones I have tried and know don't work. If I get into a debate over something like that I feel like just killing myself cause of the pain it will cause me. I would just hate for it to go south because you and your people would get all flustered with me around. When it comes to business I know all the angles and in the feild I play them so well most people fall behind getting caught up thinking about things other than the job. Maybe some one would ask a real stupid questions which would make me nervous thinking that I have to hold their hand and step by step them through the job. Hey, if I did it their way it would take forever, probably be unsafe and for me to just take time from I need to do on the job to answer any type of questions besides " are you ready?" would send me running for tranquilizers. And ,BOY, if you say you are ready and you are not ( oh, I will know who and what is ready) then you probably should just run because NOBODY like what comes next. Nobody, especially me. You get me right? You know I can read minds too right? Does everybody know I can do that? There are people in this business who claim mind reading is impossible. Well, I am a ####ing clairvoyant EEEEEEEEYUUUUUUUUP!!!

Fta is still reading books on tree work so he can find someone he can make do it for him. He feels talking about treework is the same as doing it. He likes to hear how it sounds when he uses tree work terminology and after such a short time he feels he can adpot this way of being and sounding as truly his own. And why not? There are so many others in this world who are full of crap why couldn't he be too?

The bottom line is drawn under the book math he does and he knows it don't add up... for him. Why? Oh its simple, he is weakblooded. I see weakblooded people all the time, they are usually nice to me, they kinda have no choice. Its either that or just leave me alone. But they feel they need me so bad they are nice and pay the price. I guess I just have come to the point where I realized just how many people there are blow me, yes FTA blow me. You wanna walk around and act, I walk around but its not an act.

Sometimes a weakblooded person thinks he is right to indenitfy me as the same as him and it just does not work out

When I get into converations and do things with people who don't have weakblood and have no games to play there are not many problems to deal with, just the job, then its easy as pie. People often disguise their weakblood doing what FTA does, its getting easier to spot and easier to say no to because now I am at such a great stature I really do not need or appreciate the BS. But thanks anyway! Now I am gonna go masterbate while I think about the 27 year old babysister we just hired. I could do her if I wanted, really, just like that and I do things, all types, all the time. But I wouldn't do that... even though I could. It is I who is The Dan, yer not.

Seriously, this one is all over me. She's getting real close and making long eye contact, then that thing she did with the beer bottle blew me away. Maybe I should go ahead and bang her cause I think we really need a new babysitter. ####, 20 years of tree work and twenty years of marriage! I am about ready to give it all to FTA. At least then he will know.

 

[the Aerialist]

You are unique as a snowflake...

yeah, I hear ya pops... Sometimes a weakblooded person thinks he is right to indenitfy me as the same as him and it just does not work out... It is I who is The Dan, yer not...

The Dan, you are as unique as a snowflake, as are we all. As for the rest of your post, I'm going to have to study it some more but I think I get your drift.

 

[treemandan]

The Dan, you are as unique as a snowflake, as are we all. As for the rest of your post, I'm going to have to study it some more but I think I get your drift.

You actually look pretty good. How long did you say you have been doing this? I dunno, ain't to many guys got what it takes to get up there and get it down... especially at yer age

 

[tree md]

In all reality, It's not even just the old dudes. It's all the duds (and I do mean duds) who cut a little bit of firewood, drop a tree or two, then decide they are going to buy a bucket and go into the tree industry (notice I did not say tree care industry). Hey, it's a free country and folks can do what they like. In turn, we can call them out and tell them what ####ed up hacks they really are. Or like the Dan, tell them their hearts pump pure cool-aid... Most won't be around long anyway... How many do you see still in business and posting here after 10 years... Or even 5 years...

 

[tree md]

Hell, I'm an old dude... If I could find a young dude that could do what I do I'd let him do it... Thus far I have found no one that can...

 

[treevet]

yeah, I hear ya pops... over the sound of FTA mouth farting. Give em Hell and all, at least you go out and do the work. I would probably do some work with you, I mean you are crazy and can move quick, just don't be tryin to involve me in some real ####ey do BS with a lawnmower.I can't be on a job were people are goofing around with that sort of yackassery when then should be paying full attention to me telling them how it gonna go down. Hey, its not like I am egomanic, I listen and heed when others have ideas, well as long as they are mot stupit ideas, or even ones I have tried and know don't work. If I get into a debate over something like that I feel like just killing myself cause of the pain it will cause me. I would just hate for it to go south because you and your people would get all flustered with me around. When it comes to business I know all the angles and in the feild I play them so well most people fall behind getting caught up thinking about things other than the job. Maybe some one would ask a real stupid questions which would make me nervous thinking that I have to hold their hand and step by step them through the job. Hey, if I did it their way it would take forever, probably be unsafe and for me to just take time from I need to do on the job to answer any type of questions besides " are you ready?" would send me running for tranquilizers. And ,BOY, if you say you are ready and you are not ( oh, I will know who and what is ready) then you probably should just run because NOBODY like what comes next. Nobody, especially me. You get me right? You know I can read minds too right? Does everybody know I can do that? There are people in this business who claim mind reading is impossible. Well, I am a ####ing clairvoyant EEEEEEEEYUUUUUUUUP!!!

Fta is still reading books on tree work so he can find someone he can make do it for him. He feels talking about treework is the same as doing it. He likes to hear how it sounds when he uses tree work terminology and after such a short time he feels he can adpot this way of being and sounding as truly his own. And why not? There are so many others in this world who are full of crap why couldn't he be too?

The bottom line is drawn under the book math he does and he knows it don't add up... for him. Why? Oh its simple, he is weakblooded. I see weakblooded people all the time, they are usually nice to me, they kinda have no choice. Its either that or just leave me alone. But they feel they need me so bad they are nice and pay the price. I guess I just have come to the point where I realized just how many people there are blow me, yes FTA blow me. You wanna walk around and act, I walk around but its not an act.

Sometimes a weakblooded person thinks he is right to indenitfy me as the same as him and it just does not work out

When I get into converations and do things with people who don't have weakblood and have no games to play there are not many problems to deal with, just the job, then its easy as pie. People often disguise their weakblood doing what FTA does, its getting easier to spot and easier to say no to because now I am at such a great stature I really do not need or appreciate the BS. But thanks anyway! Now I am gonna go masterbate while I think about the 27 year old babysister we just hired. I could do her if I wanted, really, just like that and I do things, all types, all the time. But I wouldn't do that... even though I could. It is I who is The Dan, yer not.

Seriously, this one is all over me. She's getting real close and making long eye contact, then that thing she did with the beer bottle blew me away. Maybe I should go ahead and bang her cause I think we really need a new babysitter. ####, 20 years of tree work and twenty years of marriage! I am about ready to give it all to FTA. At least then he will know.

pain meds from the op? better watch out....they can make you older than an old man :help:

 

[the Aerialist]

Four Decades since I first climbed trees with gear...

You actually look pretty good. How long did you say you have been doing this? I dunno, ain't to many guys got what it takes to get up there and get it down... especially at yer age

I'll recap what I posted in the disappeared thread: In the early '70s I was skydiving and the jump pilot at a drop zone created out of a pasture and old farmhouse. It was all about giving people who dared a one day course in how to make a static line parachute jump using surplus Army T-10 parachutes. These rookies landed everywhere, and many times in trees.

I bought a set of old pole gaffs and rescued the people and the parachutes. The 'chutes were harder because they often became entangled in the canopy. I climbed a lot of trees doing this, the technique I used was a kid with spikes. I did know rope work as I was a parachute rigger but a lot of it was freestyling.

I friend had a landscape business and he called me for removals, but nothing real big or serious. and by no means full time as I was busy with other things. A lot of it was getting a pull rope on it and using a truck. This was out in the country and there was usually plenty of space.

About five years ago I hooked up with a climber and he got me a job as a groundie with the company he worked for I became his ropeman and watched and learned from him. Totally old school, but a daring and very talented climber. I learned a lot and bought gear because i could see where all the fun was.

We became partners in doing side work and when that dissolved (amicably) I started Aerial Arborist Tree Service doing all my own climbing. I did contract work for a couple of companies and pulled it off, but they were not a good fit for me and I focused on my own business. It was a slow start but has finally pulled together the last two years have been great.

My familiarity with computers is what put my footprint on the "cloud" and got me work. I could do a lot more with the marketing and have twice as much work, but doing it all, I have had to juggle the work with the estimates (I call them "evaluations") and can easily overbook my ability to get the work done. So I cherry pick my customers, looking for the difficult and dangerous trees where both the challenge and money is the highest.

On my wall as I type this is a photo poster of a guy climbing an ice waterfall with no ropes in sight, just ice axes and pitons. The caption is:

ACHIEVEMENT

"In life you should not pursue goals that are easily achieved, develop an instinct for what can only just be achieved through your greatest efforts."

I have put my greatest effort into this climbing thing. It satisfies me that I have become a success at this in such a short time. It's been a supreme challenge for me at this stage of life Being my own boss gives me the opportunity to do it my way at my pace, a pace most couldn't keep up with. By that I mean turning a shoestring operation into a thriving business. In the tree I am not that fast, but I don't try to be. I've hired climbers (one from this forum) and I could probably make more money by letting others do the work but I love the climbing and stubbornly hang in there.

 

[the Aerialist]

I'm looking for a few good men...

Hell, I'm an old dude... If I could find a young dude that could do what I do I'd let him do it... Thus far I have found no one that can...

I have often said that I am looking for a man half my age and half as good as me. Now I'm looking for a man a third my age and twice as good as me.

 

[treevet]

yawn

 

[oldirty]

yawn

this guy sucks. i mean really suhucks. i know i throw the term around real loosely but to sit here and listen to his bs (which may fool people not in the game) just isn't cool. it's about as cool as aids.

i think that pic of him with ice picks should be his avatar though.... him getting the angie's list bs is heartbreaking to me as well. i've been part of a super duper angie list award for the past 3 yrs and i knooooooooow the difference between the way i play the game and the way he plays the game are in 2 completely different worlds as far as professionalism, knowledge, results, effort and skill go.

i don't know.... he kinda kill'n the climber's forum here. it's like one of the firewood boys here got all fired up and went off on his own, grinding out a living with the steiner and decided to mosey on over to this side of the site. knowing it all as he goes.....

yawn indeed.

 

[mattfr12]

I have often said that I am looking for a man half my age and half as good as me. Now I'm looking for a man a third my age and twice as good as me.

i was looking at your website and i came across that your in imperial pa. my inlaws live in imperial and im in mcdonald less than 10 min from you. i climbed for bartlett for a few years back in the day and they where also based in imperial and still are on santiago road. ive ran my own show for around 7 years now based out of mcdonald. got a crane sitting down on kennedy road for tomorrows removal. if your know the area stop by some time i thought i knew just about everyone in the game around here.

 

[sgreanbeans]

i was looking at your website and i came across that your in imperial pa. my inlaws live in imperial and im in mcdonald less than 10 min from you. i climbed for bartlett for a few years back in the day and they where also based in imperial and still are on santiago road. ive ran my own show for around 7 years now based out of mcdonald. got a crane sitting down on kennedy road for tomorrows removal. if your know the area stop by some time i thought i knew just about everyone in the game around here.

Interesting

 

[sgreanbeans]

Hell, I'm an old dude... If I could find a young dude that could do what I do I'd let him do it... Thus far I have found no one that can...

That is so true, I am in the same boat, every time I think I have found some one, they go and do something, to make me fire them!

 

[treevet]

age is chronological, old is relative

 

[treemandan]

pain meds from the op? better watch out....they can make you older than an old man :help:

Its a figure of speach... son:msp_rolleyes: But I got ya.

 

[treemandan]

this guy sucks. i mean really suhucks. i know i throw the term around real loosely but to sit here and listen to his bs (which may fool people not in the game) just isn't cool. it's about as cool as aids.

i think that pic of him with ice picks should be his avatar though.... him getting the angie's list bs is heartbreaking to me as well. i've been part of a super duper angie list award for the past 3 yrs and i knooooooooow the difference between the way i play the game and the way he plays the game are in 2 completely different worlds as far as professionalism, knowledge, results, effort and skill go.

i don't know.... he kinda kill'n the climber's forum here. it's like one of the firewood boys here got all fired up and went off on his own, grinding out a living with the steiner and decided to mosey on over to this side of the site. knowing it all as he goes.....

yawn indeed.

I was 19 when I rappelled over the rim of The Canyon with only a rope. We all did, and we had sofas, beer and tons of drugs. We were camping in a rather spacious cave just north of Flagstaff. I have been detained for climbing the Philly Art Museum, when we were 6 my brother and I would climb out on Billy Penn's hand way atop City Hall. I would have killed for a nice set of ice picks like that. I am still only forty but would scare the Hell out of you J.

 

[Garden Of Eden]

That is so true, I am in the same boat, every time I think I have found some one, they go and do something, to make me fire them!

I wish there was a 'love' button. Like isn't strong enough. Every time I find someone I think I can trust on the ground, I get f-ed. I do have an ace in the hole however. He's only 21, strong as hell, and will work like a hebrew slave. Problem, he's slow as molasses, and not just with his feet. If the temp is above 85, he's almost impossible to motivate. lol I love him like a brother though, so, what can ya do?

Jeff

 

[Garden Of Eden]

I was 19 when I rappelled over the rim of The Canyon with only a rope. We all did, and we had sofas, beer and tons of drugs. We were camping in a rather spacious cave just north of Flagstaff. I have been detained for climbing the Philly Art Museum, when we were 6 my brother and I would climb out on Billy Penn's hand way atop City Hall. I would have killed for a nice set of ice picks like that. I am still only forty but would scare the Hell out of you J.

Oh, how I envy The Dan on this day. I LOVE climbing that kind of stuff.