This whole thread kind of confuses me. Its like a pissing contest, but some of the contestants haven't had no beer. I'm an old dude, but none of this is new to me. I was hell on wheels as a youngster too. I have worked as a crew leader on many a fire crew when I was young. I repossessed cars for a few years in south central L.A. Calif. Been doing trees for close to 30 years, I Ocean kayak fish by my self for big game fish including sharks as big as my kayak, often going many miles out to sea. I work for a airplane recovery companys, when a plane slams the side of a mountain 8000ft up on the side of a cliff, I get helocoptered in and then repell and climb to recover the wreckage, and the occasional body parts.
We can argue who is better, but I still do the most dangerous and difficult removals the company's I work for get. At 53 most guys half my age can't hang with me, with is sad cuz I'm not what I use to be.
My point of this is not to toot my own horn, none of it is a big deal to me, but my whole life people have talked a good game, but when its got real, and the cards were laid out not many have stayed in the game. It all fun and games tell the going get real, to the point of life or death or possible injury and most people fold like a house of cards. Been seeing it my whole life. Not even nothen wrong with it, thats normal, Some times it'll suprise you who folds and who don't, but most the time you know. And I think I can spot a Poser at 100 yards(and I ware glasses now) and I think there are a couple on this thread. Better to be humble, learn and be thankful there are those who are better then you, you might need them some day. By better I mean professional tree care. we all have gifts in other areas. Beastmaster