Sandy was good

[hunthawkdog]

just got out of ny and back to se iowa i hope i dont have to go back to that big city mess anytime soon . I sold my bucket and self loader out there and am looking for some newer trucks anyone know of anything. i posted on the classifieds but it was like a ghost town . any equip leads would be greatly appreciated.

 

[imagineero]

Kind of a shame to profit off other people's misfortune just the same.

 

[atvguns]

Kind of a shame to profit off other people's misfortune just the same.

:msp_confused:

If they was in the buying mood and he was in the selling mood then all is good unless he charged them three prices for wore out equipment which I didn't read in his post at all.

 

[TheJollyLogger]

Kind of a shame to profit off other people's misfortune just the same.

What, like cops, firemen, doctors, lawyers, funeral directors do? What's the difference?

 

[CTTBR]

What, like cops, firemen, doctors, lawyers, funeral directors do? What's the difference?

Well Mr Jollylogger, it"s offensive that you would group Cops and Firefighters in with poeple making profit off others misfortune. I am a career Firefighter and a owner of a tree service and will say your statment is totally ignorant. Please tell all the emrgency responders career and volunteer that responded to the school shooting in Newtown CT and will never be able to forget that horrific scene that they did it for profit. Probably be different if you had a child there? Tell the emergency responder career and volunteer who shows up if your ever severly injured or having a heart attack or for a fire and tend to you, that their doing it for profit. What's wrong with all the Police and Fire dept's that are laying off poeple because cities and towns cant afford to keep them, arn't they in the business to make a profit? Must be bad business men. Or I guess theres no emergencies in those areas to charge for. Your an ass. Oh and by the way you left out the military they defend your freedom. Sorry you can't see the difference.

 

[jsdogs1]

Your not profiting off of other's misfortunes unless you are blatantly over charging. We provide a service. I am sure we all sit by the phone when the wind blows. That's just good business.

 

[treeclimber101]

To the OP I am glad that you made money , I am sure that you weren't just given that money for nothing , so the thought you were taking advantage of people seems silly to me . And if you worked did the job asked of you by another and did it right compensation is fair , I have been working that storm since 3 days after it hit , granted all the downed trees are gone , we have now moved on to the "ya know what that tree makes me nervous now " work and I hope that carries us right thru til the spring .

 

[gorman]

To the OP I am glad that you made money , I am sure that you weren't just given that money for nothing , so the thought you were taking advantage of people seems silly to me . And if you worked did the job asked of you by another and did it right compensation is fair , I have been working that storm since 3 days after it hit , granted all the downed trees are gone , we have now moved on to the "ya know what that tree makes me nervous now " work and I hope that carries us right thru til the spring .

I'm very busy myself, but I hope that this heavy load of work in the usual off season doesn't translate into not having a full load in the spring/summer.

 

[treeclimber101]

I'm very busy myself, but I hope that this heavy load of work in the usual off season doesn't translate into not having a full load in the spring/summer.

I find not thinking about what I cannot control clears a lot of stress off my plate , just go with it make money and see what next month has to bring and so on and so on . I have noticed over the last few weeks people are getting a lot more prices which means its competitive again so be on your A game , get there bid it and do it ASAP.

 

[TheJollyLogger]

Well Mr Jollylogger, it"s offensive that you would group Cops and Firefighters in with poeple making profit off others misfortune. I am a carer Firefighter and a owner of a tree service and will say your statment is totally ignorant. Please tell all the emrgency responders carer and volunteer that responded to the school shooting in Newtown CT and will never be able to forget that horrific scene that they did it for profit. Probably be different if you had a child there? Tell the emergency responder carer and volunteer who shows up if your ever severly injured or having a heart attack or for a fire and tend to you, that their doing it for profit. What's wrong with all the Police and Fire dept's that are laying off poeple because cities and towns cant afford to keep them, arn't they in the business to make a profit? Must be bad business men. Or I guess theres no emergencies in those areas to charge for. Your an ass. Oh and by the way you left out the military they defend your freedom. Sorry you can't see the difference.

A firefighter or cop is payed to respond to fires, accidents, disasters. So am I. My point wasn't to insult their profession, but to defend mine. I guess the biggest difference is statistically speaking, according to OSHA I have a higher chance of being injured or killed on the job.

 

[imagineero]

Sandy was good?

What, like cops, firemen, doctors, lawyers, funeral directors do? What's the difference?

No, Sandy wasn't good. Just ask any of the people who suffered. Any natural disaster that has a rolling death toll count, and a cleanup bill in the tens of billions is not good.

You've thrown together a bunch of random people there, I'm not going to lump cops, firemen and doctors into the same boat as lawyers and funeral directors. But lets say that we're in the same boat as the good guys (cops, firemen and doctors). Say a cop posted the following in the chainsaw forum;

thread title "911 was awesome"

Hi guys,
Just made a tonne of money working overtime thanks to 9/11, even sold my service revolver to some guy who was paranoid and wanted to protect his family. Since I'm so loaded, I want to buy myself a truck and some saws, anyone know where I can get an awesome deal?"
​

The guy would be lynched.

Now I'm not saying what you posted is on the same order of magnitude, but starting any thread with "(insert natural disaster) was good" isn't a good way to get yourself liked. I personally don't do disaster work, just because I'd feel compelled to help out my fellow man in their time of need and would have a hard time denying folks who needed help and couldn't afford it. I'll leave that work to the vultures. I do pitch in (free of charge) where I can. Maybe I'm not 'business minded' enough.

If you wanted to get yourself a good lead perhaps you should have posted something along the lines of;

Thread title: Sandy was terrible
Hi guys,
Just got back from spending time helping out Sandy victims, we had a really tough time working long hours but we were able to help out a lot of folks in need. Makes you really appreciate what you've got when you see folks suffering like that! We couldn't stay any longer, but left our truck and chipper because people there needed the gear more than we did. I'm looking for something to replace my stuff, does anyone have a lead for me?​

 

[Carburetorless]

Kind of a shame to profit off other people's misfortune just the same.

People have been doing it for thousands of years. I don't see any reason to get all white knight about it now.

Or do you think we should, out of the kindness of our hearts, not respond to natural disasters, and let the people fend for themselves to get the trees cleared?

 

[Zale]

Working storms is one part of the job. After 20+ years I would rather pass it on to someone else. If my clients have damage, I take care of them at a fair price. The folks I don't respect are the ones that drive cross country to get to the affected areas. Storm chasers are bottom feeders IMO.

 

[treeclimber101]

It's all in there perspective and how they treat the people they come in contact with , if they come here and rip people off I am not liking that but to work clean up and leave , well everyone's gotta eat .

 

[Carburetorless]

It's all in there perspective and how they treat the people they come in contact with , if they come here and rip people off I am not liking that but to work clean up and leave , well everyone's gotta eat .

I don't believe in taking advantage of people whether they're in a difficult situation or not.

Anyway,

From my own experiences, it's the big companies that profit from storm chasing, everyone else is just hiring out to them or picking up the scraps that are left here and there.

I've worked hurricane recovery in the past, and that's the way it always was. The locals hate it because FEMA isn't hiring local people to do the work, but it really boils down to the fact that, in most areas, the locals don't have the necessary resources to get the job done. As everyone here knows, not having the right equipment turns a quick, easy job into a long drawn out ordeal.

 

[Zale]

I don't believe in taking advantage of people whether they're in a difficult situation or not.

Anyway,

From my own experiences, it's the big companies that profit from storm chasing, everyone else is just hiring out to them or picking up the scraps that are left here and there.

I've worked hurricane recovery in the past, and that's the way it always was. The locals hate it because FEMA isn't hiring local people to do the work, but it really boils down to the fact that, in most areas, the locals don't have the necessary resources to get the job done. As everyone here knows, not having the right equipment turns a quick, easy job into a long drawn out ordeal.

Sandy hits one of the most densely populated area of the country. You're right, I'm sure the local tree companies lacked the basic equipment.

 

[treeclimber101]

I don't believe in taking advantage of people whether they're in a difficult situation or not.

Anyway,

From my own experiences, it's the big companies that profit from storm chasing, everyone else is just hiring out to them or picking up the scraps that are left here and there.

I've worked hurricane recovery in the past, and that's the way it always was. The locals hate it because FEMA isn't hiring local people to do the work, but it really boils down to the fact that, in most areas, the locals don't have the necessary resources to get the job done. As everyone here knows, not having the right equipment turns a quick, easy job into a long drawn out ordeal.

I don't know you , but I can assure you I roll out with enough to take down any tree I've ever met with what I own , I mean yea that's how I roll .

 

[treeclimber101]

And if FEMA you mean a guy with a clipboard walking around offering low interest loans , yea they were here and I have no interest in being uncle SAMs ##### anymore then I already am !

 

[teamtree]

Why does everyone want to jump on the "blame" game when things go wrong. Ok...someone profited from a bad situation....and to the gentleman who asked about cops, first responders, firefighters and military....last time I checked...those are all positions they volunteered or chose to do. I am glad we have them. Me...I don't necessarily need anyone to take care of me...I don't mind taking care of myself. Which is my point....we need to learn to take care of ourselves again....and not count on the cops, first repsonders, fire fighters and military....there was a time when we all took care of each other.

Now you have many businesses that provide services for profit for the unfortunate.....do you blame the auto body guy from profiting from someone's misfortune....do you blame the insurance companies for profited by promoting fear and paying outrageous payouts...and then raising premiums....the booze makers for peddling their wares that destroy families.

In my opinion, the tree guys take the short end of the stick for risking their lives daily to make other lives safer. Why shouldn't they profit from a storm?

 

[teamtree]

I don't know you , but I can assure you I roll out with enough to take down any tree I've ever met with what I own , I mean yea that's how I roll .

Well your last paragraph is bull####....the locals can handle most anything....FEMA is a political entity and they make up bull#### guidelines to take care fo big business. For example, they put requirements on what size grinder you need to have on some jobs. What is the difference if I have a 700hp grinder and it takes me a day longer than the guy with a 1000hp grinder? So they hire someone from 300 miles away to do the job I could have easily done with what i have.

oops I was talking about the guy you replied to....sorry