Saw for Hire

[Romeosgrl]

It has nothing to do with the fact that its no longer on the air??

For the moment, that will be changing soon.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

For the moment, that will be changing soon.

And then more companies and professional organizations will complain and it will get pulled again....

 

[Romeosgrl]

And then more companies and professional organizations will complain and it will get pulled again....

We shall see.. seems to me there are plenty of people who love the show that outweigh the whiney people who have nothing better to do than to gripe and complain. If you dont like it, dont watch, plain and simple. Because I promise you there are plenty of people who will watch. The ratings from the first 2 nights the show was on prove that.

If your soooo much better at what you do than Paul Nosak, then you should have nothing to worry about! You will get plenty of business and him acting the way he does will have no effect on you.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

There are people that will watch anything. Doesn't mean that it is good....

The show just puts a bad taste in people's mouths about the arboriculture industry.

 

[Romeosgrl]

There are people that will watch anything. Doesn't mean that it is good....

The show just puts a bad taste in people's mouths about the arboriculture industry.

I can promise you, without a doubt, there is not one single tree company in the entire country that has never had mishaps or mistakes. Not one. And there is also not one single tree company that follows every OSHA rule. If you can show me one tree company that does, I can promise you they will not make any money because they will take so much time nitpicking, a one day job will take 3 weeks.
Just because you haven't made the SAME mistakes, doesn't mean you haven't made any. People who judge Paul and his company, obviously haven't looked in a mirror lately.

 

[TreePointer]

There are people that will watch anything. Doesn't mean that it is good....

The show just puts a bad taste in people's mouths about the arboriculture industry.

Good point. There are folks who liked to watch Anna Nicole or the Osbournes show because they couldn't pass up a train wreck, so to speak. The problem with Saw For Hire was that there were common safety regs and practices being broken. This presents ethical issues for the TV network, if not legal issues as well.

 

[yooper]

Ask Paul if they will play yakety sax at the end of the show

 

[Romeosgrl]

As I have said before, I have watched Nosak's crew work on many many occasions, what was put into the show was the "train wrecks" as you put it. They filmed for weeks to get the footage for 1 show. So yes, the worst of what they do was put on television. That is what sells...whether the arborist community likes it or not, that is what sells. Therefore that is what was put into the show. That is not how it goes on a daily basis with their crew. And since the show and the negative emails from certain organizations, Paul has changed some of the way he runs his crew. Such as hard hats, chaps, etc etc...

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

I can promise you, without a doubt, there is not one single tree company in the entire country that has never had mishaps or mistakes. Not one. And there is also not one single tree company that follows every OSHA rule. If you can show me one tree company that does, I can promise you they will not make any money because they will take so much time nitpicking, a one day job will take 3 weeks.
Just because you haven't made the SAME mistakes, doesn't mean you haven't made any. People who judge Paul and his company, obviously haven't looked in a mirror lately.

I never said people don't make mistakes. But of the few hundred crews we have had working at one time we never touched a house with a piece of tree, or damaged any private property. Every guy I worked with followed OSHA reg's, we worked around anywhere from 120 volt to 138,000+ volt lines so safety was the priority. Everybody like going home to their familes.

The problem is showing stunts and accidents like this on TV makes customers and viewers think that every crew hits houses and lifts cranes, like its normal.

 

[Romeosgrl]

I never said people don't make mistakes. But of the few hundred crews we have had working at one time we never touched a house with a piece of tree, or damaged any private property. Every guy I worked with followed OSHA reg's, we worked around anywhere from 120 volt to 138,000+ volt lines so safety was the priority. Everybody like going home to their familes.

The problem is showing stunts and accidents like this on TV makes customers and viewers think that every crew hits houses and lifts cranes, like its normal.

I think you are way underestimating the general population. People aren't as stupid as you seem to think. They know what is put on television is the part that is dramatic. No one thinks that is the "norm" for tree work. Sorry, that argument doesn't fly with me.

 

[Rftreeman]

And then more companies and professional organizations will complain and it will get pulled again....

if TLC decides to put it back on I'm sure it will stay, they only pulled it just think about the situation.

The problem is showing stunts and accidents like this on TV makes customers and viewers think that every crew hits houses and lifts cranes, like its normal.

no it doesn't........

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

I think you are way underestimating the general population. People aren't as stupid as you seem to think. They know what is put on television is the part that is dramatic. No one thinks that is the "norm" for tree work. Sorry, that argument doesn't fly with me.

Then you don't know most of the general public. I've talked to many people that asked me "Do you guys act like that at work?".... To me that means that they don't know any better.

 

[Romeosgrl]

And just a little food for thought, since the show aired, Gerome has gotten more calls for tree jobs than ever before. If the shows are giving people such a bad taste in their mouth, or making tree work look sooo bad as you claim, why is it when people find out hes Gerome from Saw for Hire, they want him to do their job? Obviously they dont think they are too bad...

 

[Romeosgrl]

Thank you, rftreeman :agree2:

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

I guess if that passes for tree work down in Oklahoma then as long as it stays down there... I am proud of the industry I represent and like showing that to customers with the work I do. (IE wearing my PPE, and working safely, and doing quality work).

 

[DK_stihl]

And just a little food for thought, since the show aired, Gerome has gotten more calls for tree jobs than ever before. If the shows are giving people such a bad taste in their mouth, or making tree work look sooo bad as you claim, why is it when people find out hes Gerome from Saw for Hire, they want him to do their job? Obviously they dont think they are too bad...

Jerome's fine, just as long as Paul doesn't tag along.

 

[Romeosgrl]

I guess if that passes for tree work down in Oklahoma then as long as it stays down there... I am proud of the industry I represent and like showing that to customers with the work I do. (IE wearing my PPE, and working safely).

Like I said, its television, if Paul wasn't a POS, if Gerome wasn't the voice of reason, if they didn't have mishaps and mistakes, the show wouldn't sell. Plain and simple. When they are doing jobs, off camara, every day work, they do it just as well, if not better than any other tree company. I dont understand why people cant get the fact that tree jobs with no complications, no problems, no Paul, are not entertaining enough to be put on television! The ONLY people that would watch a show like that, are ARBORISTS!! Because you just love trees, the general population, doesn't love trees like you do! They dont want to sit and watch grass grow.

 

[Romeosgrl]

Jerome's fine, just as long as Paul doesn't tag along.

You know, I hear that a lot, I really am glad people can see he knows what hes doing.

 

[fishercat]

Extreme loggers didn't have all that BS in it.

As I have said before, I have watched Nosak's crew work on many many occasions, what was put into the show was the "train wrecks" as you put it. They filmed for weeks to get the footage for 1 show. So yes, the worst of what they do was put on television. That is what sells...whether the arborist community likes it or not, that is what sells. Therefore that is what was put into the show. That is not how it goes on a daily basis with their crew. And since the show and the negative emails from certain organizations, Paul has changed some of the way he runs his crew. Such as hard hats, chaps, etc etc...

i bet it out sold Slobs for Hire.

 

[Romeosgrl]

i bet it out sold Slobs for Hire.

Considering it was PURCHASED by a national television station, Id say it out sold a lot of things.