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[tree md]

I've been banned for a few days , the knot is not new fangled it is a standard climbing knot used by heavy climbers over 200 pounds like me.It is a simple Knot with a total of five turns. If you take your bridge cross over the top of the running end once,then two turns down behind the bridge up two over the top two times :greenchainsaw:and your tail winds up on the same side of the bridge. You may have a different name for it but it was shown to me by a climbing instructor in 98. I flip betwwen that and a monkeys fist depending on my mood

I have been using that same knot for over 18 years. It was taught to me by the first guy I worked for. I have seen several other climbers use it. It's basically just a prussic knot. I've read that it's not recommended to descend on but OK for ascending. However, I've never had any problems descending on the knot and it seems to give me the perfect amount of tension when walking out on a limb so I question whoever wrote that opinion of the knot. I've used Taughtline, Blake's and variations of the prussic mentioned. When I was younger and lighter I would go with 2 loops on top and 2 on the bottom and it worked like a charm. When I got heavier (over 200#) I had to go with 3 loops on top and 2 on bottom. The knot always worked great for me.

 

[Rftreeman]

First of all i owe you an apology I was talkin smack not personal i would have said sooner but i have banned for three days . the answer to my question is that is the name , it is a knot used by climbers who weigh over 250 pounds like me . i use on a quarter inch high vee anything smaller and it gets tight and cannot be broke .If you take your bridge cross over the running end once then twice down stop then cross behind the back of the bridge start at the top and two turns down ending with the tail overtop the bridge and fed in the same way . I can walk out on a branch and lean into it and know it wont ever slip that sucks ! I flip flop between that and a monkeys fist whatever my mood is.

I have been using that same knot for over 18 years. It was taught to me by the first guy I worked for. I have seen several other climbers use it. It's basically just a prussic knot. I've read that it's not recommended to descend on but OK for ascending. However, I've never had any problems descending on the knot and it seems to give me the perfect amount of tension when walking out on a limb so I question whoever wrote that opinion of the knot. I've used Taughtline, Blake's and variations of the prussic mentioned. When I was younger and lighter I would go with 2 loops on top and 2 on the bottom and it worked like a charm. When I got heavier (over 200#) I had to go with 3 loops on top and 2 on bottom. The knot always worked great for me.

are you guys talking about the hitch knot? If you are then I use two under and one over, used two and two for years.

 

[treeclimber101]

I think what bothers me most about paul nosak is how incredibly undeserving he is to be the first person to represent people who do this as a profession .His past is in roof work,and i think he lacks the pride in tree management that i feel.He seems to be an oppurtunist and it seems like all the roof work was done so he bought a chipper and became a tree worker. it also really irritates that he is the first one the the finish line, because good or bad it is national exposure and i would kill for the oppurtunity. I think that i will watch in hope that he will prove me wrong and redeem himself and show that they can do something other than quick removals. I will feel better that way .

 

[treeclimber101]

are you guys talking about the hitch knot? If you are then I use two under and one over, used two and two for years.

that makes sense because it was a standard climbing knot for utility workers that is how i learned it ,it i simple easy to tie and can be taught quickly if it doesnt look smooth its wrong i only know as a two over two

 

[tree md]

I think what bothers me most about paul nosak is how incredibly undeserving he is to be the first person to represent people who do this as a profession .His past is in roof work,and i think he lacks the pride in tree management that i feel.He seems to be an oppurtunist and it seems like all the roof work was done so he bought a chipper and became a tree worker. it also really irritates that he is the first one the the finish line, because good or bad it is national exposure and i would kill for the oppurtunity. I think that i will watch in hope that he will prove me wrong and redeem himself and show that they can do something other than quick removals. I will feel better that way .

Be careful of what you wish for.

Sometimes the ones with the most toys and loudest mouth don't always last to finish the race... Just the fastest out of the gate. Sometimes being the biggest and the loudest comes back to bite you in the ass.

 

[tree md]

are you guys talking about the hitch knot? If you are then I use two under and one over, used two and two for years.

I don't know what the knot is officially called. It was introduced to me as merely a "climber's knot". It's just a basic prussic hitch with two or three loops on top, two on the bottom and both the working end and running end coming out in the same direction. Hope that makes sense.

 

[treeclimber101]

Be careful of what you wish for.

Sometimes the ones with the most toys and loudest mouth don't always last to finish the race... Just the fastest out of the gate. Sometimes being the biggest and the loudest comes back to bite you in the ass.

My only issue with this whole thing is now we have invited uncle sam into the party A.k.a osha and he never leaves. I would hate to see more regulation on crane activity loader operation ETC. I think that this could been handled more discreetly . I read in the tcia mag that the comp. from axe men will be fined for unsafe behavior im sorry but everthing about that job is unsafe but someone has to do it. It is tough out there right now , not the time for bs. fines against companies that are barely hanging on . The more companies that fold the hungrier that we will all get.

 

[treeclimber101]

I'm sorry lol i know my grammar sucks! i will try harder to speak correctly:jester:. If you could do me a favor i would appreciate greatly, can you not mention high times when replying to something that i have said. my daughter heard me laughing at your last post to me and was reading over my shoulder, she didn't say anything but i'm not ready to have that conversation i wouln't even know where to begin. It feels good to be back I've been banned for a few days

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[treeclimber101]

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removed send it again

 

[Taxmantoo]

If they are just out to entertain with smashing buildings and tipping cranes and doing wheelies on bobcats well they mise well play music to the idiocy they portray.

I'll give Yooper this much: When I visualize Paul N. riding off into the sunset at 5x speedup with the Bobcat bucket 15' in the air to the tune of the Benny Hill theme, it does make me laugh.

 

[Plasmech]

How did Paul lose his Sak (TM) anyway? Skid steer flip with him in it?

 

[tree md]

My only issue with this whole thing is now we have invited uncle sam into the party A.k.a osha and he never leaves. I would hate to see more regulation on crane activity loader operation ETC. I think that this could been handled more discreetly . I read in the tcia mag that the comp. from axe men will be fined for unsafe behavior im sorry but everthing about that job is unsafe but someone has to do it. It is tough out there right now , not the time for bs. fines against companies that are barely hanging on . The more companies that fold the hungrier that we will all get.

I agree. I think we are all better off if our industry is self regulated. I think less government involvement the better. Think about it, anything the government gets their hand in usually turns to ****. I think it's best to be self regulated and for us to define what is acceptable and what is not. I thought that this thread and others like it was an attempt at self regulation and from the letters sent by our industry leaders and the outcome of the show being pulled is proof that we can be self regulated.

 

[treeclimber101]

I agree. I think we are all better off if our industry is self regulated. I think less government involvement the better. Think about it, anything the government gets their hand in usually turns to ****. I think it's best to be self regulated and for us to define what is acceptable and what is not. I thought that this thread and others like it was an attempt at self regulation and from the letters sent by our industry leaders and the outcome of the show being pulled is proof that we can be self regulated.

I hope that more people can see the big picture in that this is not about one person but the industry as a whole. I also spent 4 years as a union ironworker and have seen first hand how difficult it can get when we are not allowed to do our jobs the way they need to be done sometimes that means putting yourself in a position that is dangerous.

 

[treeclimber101]

How did Paul lose his Sak (TM) anyway? Skid steer flip with him in it?

you can bet that his phone is now ringing off the hook bad exposure on tv is still exposure people dont remember details long but the name nosak tree service will be burned in for a while

 

[treeclimber101]

:dunno: im just a dumb stump grinder,13 turns and a twistwhats the knot used for, does it have a name? my search bellied up

i think that this is a duplicate post .I'm sorry for the way that spoke and hopefully we can move on . i was banned for a few days and didn't answer my question to you .it is a standard climbing knot shown to me by a instructor 10 years ago .you take your bridge line over the running end of your once. then two turns down stop cross the rope over the bridge and start at the top with two more turns down the bridge line should face and lay on top of your first turn . i use it with quarter inch line high vee because i weigh 250+ and it has never run ,it really is nice for walking out on tips because i can lean into and it doesn,t move that sucks when u slip

 

[yooper]

What ever happened to your other 2 personalities treeclimber101? ya know camdentree and littlebuk....will they be here tonight or are you just playing with yourself?

 

[treeclimber101]

What ever happened to your other 2 personalities treeclimber101? ya know camdentree and littlebuk....will they be here tonight or are you just playing with yourself?

ya sorry for that i was booed heavily and deserved it! make fun i deserve it but in my defense my wife was one of those two and thought she was helping lol i need to be very careful i've i done more infractions in 4 days that most have done in years

 

[yooper]

well at least you only played with your self once..I see ya had a second helper for a reach around

 

[treeclimber101]

well at least you only played with your self once..I see ya had a second helper for a reach around

i dont even have an answer for that i want to fire one back off but we both know where that will land me and i know thats what some people want nice try!

 

[yooper]

i dont even have an answer for that i want to fire one back off but we both know where that will land me and i know thats what some people want nice try!

sorry dude it was just a friendly joke...would not want to see any one banned. If it was my choice it would be a big free for all for everyone. I hate when a comunity is ruled under a monarchy rule. I may have missed something you posted. don't know what you had gotten banned for. just because you have a different opinion of anything that I or any one else doesn't matter, at least not to me. It all makes great conversation. I only figured ya got the banning for multiple personalities