OK, lets open up a new can of worms. We all talk about saw life. How long has your saw lasted in pro use? Not once a day running, I want to hear from the guys that make their living with it. 3to 4Hours a day minimum.
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Tech....I cant say from my personal use...but the very first saw i ever "tuned" for a guy...came back to my store finally with a rod brg...3 years..of steady felling..with a 2071....not too bad at all...
treeclimber165
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I get 2-3 years out of those 'throw-away' Echo 3400's. Not bad for about $250. I use about 3 tanks of fuel on an average day in it. As soon as they start to crap out on me, I buy a new one. Most owners of those expensive 020's seem to always have carb troubles after about 1 year and end up buying new ones, relegating the 'old' 020 to groundwork.
Hmmmmmm, $250 for 2-3 years vs. $450 for one year? Tough call.
Had an 038Magnum that I used for 10 years, pulled it out every time I had a tree over 18" to cut down. Gave it away after the handle got run over. Compression was weak, too. $600+ for 10 years? Not too bad.
Had several 024's, 025's, 026's over the years, virtually all of them got 'borrowed' or lost at one time or another. Other than an old 025 in my shed, can't say I ever wore out a Stihl to where it wouldn't cut any more.
Hmmmmmm, $250 for 2-3 years vs. $450 for one year? Tough call.
Had an 038Magnum that I used for 10 years, pulled it out every time I had a tree over 18" to cut down. Gave it away after the handle got run over. Compression was weak, too. $600+ for 10 years? Not too bad.
Had several 024's, 025's, 026's over the years, virtually all of them got 'borrowed' or lost at one time or another. Other than an old 025 in my shed, can't say I ever wore out a Stihl to where it wouldn't cut any more.
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I was jawin' with an Echo dealer once; his position was that most of Echo's saws are designed to last at least 400 hrs of "average use", which seems to fit right in with what TC165 is saying...3 tanks of gas is probably about 1 1/4 hrs of actual running, times 50 weeks/year, times 5 days/week, times 2 years, subtract an occasional day when there's no light work for the little saw, and you have a little more than 500 hrs of running.
I'd say that was pretty good performance for a machine that costs less than $300.
I'm certain that most comparable models from other mfgrs perform as well.
Let's compare that to, say, a trimmer pushmower in use at a lawn service. That mower will also cost $300, (or more) but certainly will not pass the 500 hr mark without major engine service. Unless maybe you've got an older model with, say, that big 6 hp Kawasaki 2 stroke.
I'd say that was pretty good performance for a machine that costs less than $300.
I'm certain that most comparable models from other mfgrs perform as well.
Let's compare that to, say, a trimmer pushmower in use at a lawn service. That mower will also cost $300, (or more) but certainly will not pass the 500 hr mark without major engine service. Unless maybe you've got an older model with, say, that big 6 hp Kawasaki 2 stroke.
Tony Snyder
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durability
At different times over the years I have sold ECHO,Stihl,Partner,Husqvarna,Pioneer,Jonsered and Efco. The oldest units sold would be ECHOs. Some of them probably have over 1000 hours on them without cylinder or bottom end problems. Of course the rubber stuff goes bad and has to be replaced. Occasionally oil pumps, ignitions, carbs and recoil parts.
I'm not claiming they are the best saws, but many of the older ECHOs are very durable saws.
The S50, P55, P65 style Partners also held up for perhaps 800 hours or more.
Stihls are durable but usually with more money spent on service work on them along the way.
On all brands, the race to make the lightest saws has affected durability.
Echos and Stihls the most time consuming to work on. Huskys and partners the easiest to work on.
At different times over the years I have sold ECHO,Stihl,Partner,Husqvarna,Pioneer,Jonsered and Efco. The oldest units sold would be ECHOs. Some of them probably have over 1000 hours on them without cylinder or bottom end problems. Of course the rubber stuff goes bad and has to be replaced. Occasionally oil pumps, ignitions, carbs and recoil parts.
I'm not claiming they are the best saws, but many of the older ECHOs are very durable saws.
The S50, P55, P65 style Partners also held up for perhaps 800 hours or more.
Stihls are durable but usually with more money spent on service work on them along the way.
On all brands, the race to make the lightest saws has affected durability.
Echos and Stihls the most time consuming to work on. Huskys and partners the easiest to work on.
DDM
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too bad they dont have an hr meter stuffed in there some where.
JimL
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I have an 066 thats going on 5 years of daily use durring the week. Only items replaced are the mounts, pull rope, couple plugs, oil & gas caps, and a few air filters. Good old saw still.
Got an 028 thats old as dirt and it still fires on the 3rd pull old gas and all!
Got an 028 thats old as dirt and it still fires on the 3rd pull old gas and all!
tony marks
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i can understand now why u prefer the 3400 to 3000.that kinda use ought to tell the tale on any saw.
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