Gas life?

[OM617YOTA]

diesel can last 30 years... FWIW

Old school diesel, you bet. Modern diesel, especially if it's a biodiesel mix, no.

Renewable diesel is an entirely different matter, that should be good for a LONG time.

Folks should be inspecting their stored fuel regularly, set and forget is a terrible plan for anything that needs to be relied on. Rotating is a good time to do this.

 

[PapaWhitebeard]

Old school diesel, you bet. Modern diesel, especially if it's a biodiesel mix, no.

Renewable diesel is an entirely different matter, that should be good for a LONG time.

Folks should be inspecting their stored fuel regularly, set and forget is a terrible plan for anything that needs to be relied on. Rotating is a good time to do this.

LOL I'm a dinosaur... so yeah my "it lasts 30 years" info is re pure dinosaur powered diesel

 

[Hermio]

I agree... mainly to the seafoam... which I understand contains mostly good 'ole fashioned h2o... you'd never add water to a fuel tank set aside for long term storage, right?

I checked the Seafoam site. It says it is 100% organic oils and cleaners. That would preclude it having water in its formulation.

 

[PapaWhitebeard]

I checked the Seafoam site. It says it is 100% organic oils and cleaners. That would preclude it having water in its formulation.

because everything on the interweb is true

BTW pure water is 100% organic... and water is a cleaner (shrug)

 

[Hermio]

because everything on the interweb is true

BTW pure water is 100% organic... and water is a cleaner (shrug)

Nope. Water is not organic. Organic compounds must contain at least carbon and hydrogen in their molecular structure.

 

[PapaWhitebeard]

i don't trust anything that is a "do it all"
product... add it to fuel... add it to your crankcase oil... use it for *anything*

Lots of people love the seafoam... my youngest brother has 4 engineers degrees and he loves it... but he also pours water down the carb of running motors just to show off that it can be done... (ie my youngest brother is an idiot )

Whether there is water in it or not... my experience is that at best it doesn't do much of anything... at worst it clogs fuel injectors in *some* systems... YMMV

I'll admit the seafoam recipe might have changed... the last time I held a can of it, it still came in a metal soup can looking thing with a tin triangle shaped pull-tab on top to open it

 

[Hermio]

i don't trust anything that is a "do it all"
product... add it to fuel... add it to your crankcase oil... use it for *anything*

Lots of people love the seafoam... my youngest brother has 4 engineers degrees and he loves it... but he also pours water down the carb of running motors just to show off that it can be done... (ie my youngest brother is an idiot )

Whether there is water in it or not... my experience is that at best it doesn't do much of anything... at worst it clogs fuel injectors in *some* systems... YMMV

I'll admit the seafoam recipe might have changed... the last time I held a can of it, it still came in a metal soup can looking thing with a tin triangle shaped pull-tab on top to open it

I have never used the stuff, so I cannot comment on its efficacy. Todd at Project Farm did some tests with it on an old engine and he claimed it stopped lifter rattle and increased compression.

 

[PapaWhitebeard]

I have never used the stuff, so I cannot comment on its efficacy.

Yet... you've been commenting on it quite a lot for someone whose never used it

THIS is what is wrong with the interwebs... hearsay... (mis)information force multiplication in action

 

[OM617YOTA]

LOL I'm a dinosaur... so yeah my "it lasts 30 years" info is re pure dinosaur powered diesel

Modern dino diesel ain't what it used to be either. Keep it rotated is good advice for any fuel.

Per the safety data sheet, Seafoam has alcohol in it, so it likely contains water too. All you folks being careful about buying non ethanol fuel and then adding Seafoam might want to reconsider.

https://seafoami.com/wp-content/upl...library/2024/03/SFMT-SDS-UK-ENG-v20240228.pdf

 

[bwalker]

Yet... you've been commenting on it quite a lot for someone whose never used it

THIS is what is wrong with the interwebs... hearsay... (mis)information force multiplication in action

If he commented only on things he understood he wouldn't be on this site...

 

[bwalker]

Modern dino diesel ain't what it used to be either. Keep it rotated is good advice for any fuel.

Per the safety data sheet, Seafoam has alcohol in it, so it likely contains water too. All you folks being careful about buying non ethanol fuel and then adding Seafoam might want to reconsider.

https://seafoami.com/wp-content/upl...library/2024/03/SFMT-SDS-UK-ENG-v20240228.pdf

Seafoam is complete garbage and I don't care what Project Farm says..

 

[PapaWhitebeard]

Seafoam is complete garbage and I don't care what Project Farm says..

I'd put more weight behind the experience of an actual expert before I'd rely on some guy whose life experience is trying to become 'internet famous' on the youtoob (shrug)

 

[bwalker]

I'd put more weight behind the experience of an actual expert before I'd rely on some guy whose life experience is trying to become 'internet famous' on the youtoob (shrug)

You tube is about the worst place to look for good info. Youbreallt have to pick through alotnof garbage before you find anything of value.
I wanted Seafoam to work, it just never has.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I put Berrymans B12 and seafoam in a test many years ago. Guess which one didnt do crap to remove carbon. Seafoam didnt do crap to remove carbon or appear to break it down much at all IMHO snakeoil.

What I use to soak soak pistons in to clean and help on ring lands. Also use for injector cleaner which works for me too. Berryman's B12

 

[Hermio]

Yet... you've been commenting on it quite a lot for someone whose never used it

THIS is what is wrong with the interwebs... hearsay... (mis)information force multiplication in action

I don't think I have commented on it except to say that it does not have water in it, based on the manufacturer's website. You have made a false accusation.

 

[Hermio]

If he commented only on things he understood he wouldn't be on this site...

That applies to you, too.

 

[bwalker]

I put Berrymans B12 and seafoam in a test many years ago. Guess which one didnt do crap to remove carbon. Seafoam didnt do crap to remove carbon or appear to break it down much at all IMHO snakeoil.

What I use to soak soak pistons in to clean and help on ring lands. Also use for injector cleaner which works for me too. Berryman's

Berrymans carb dip works well too.
Seafoam not so much, including their GDI cleaner thats allegadly made to clean carbon fouled valves.
Like I have said before I have used a borescope to verify this.

 

[bwalker]

That applies to you, too.

That the autistic, pervert version of I know you are but what am I?

 

[jeffpack1957]

diesel can last 30 years... FWIW

Uh, not quite. It can if you regularly treat it with pri d every year.


Otherwise will grow algae. I've stored 800 gallons this way. Also make sure to drain water out of tank.

 

[OM617YOTA]

Water is your problem. No water = no algae.