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As far as 50cc saws go, I’ve never run a newer pro saw. Other than the poulan pro. Lol. I love the ms460 but it is heavy. Ok when bucking but I cut up a whole tree on Monday that had lots of branches and I felt that weight. Found I was wanting to use my elcheapo craftsman 42cc because it’s lighter. I imagine a saw with similar weight and twice the power would get my attention most of the time.

Back when I used a MS210 for limbing. Then I discovered the MS192T. Makes cutting brush a dream! I'll never be without a top handle for that job. Takes about hald the time a regular saw does. Yes, I operate it one handed and I know that is "dangerous" but in all these years I have never (yet) came close to cutting myself.
 
To be honest, I have used those little husky 55's to bring down some pretty big trees. Not to say there wasnt times I wished I had a bigger saw. I just never liked toteing a big saw thru the woods. Then when the big tree is down, you are stuck with the heavier saw to do the limbing. The 55 sort of sets in the middle for me. big enough to fall a decent sized tree, and light enough to reach up and do the trimming. Now thats not to say I dont load every saw I own in the truck when I go to cut, and I do. If I can get close enough to load the truck where the tree falls, I pull out a 70cc saw to do the falling and then grab the smaller 55 to do the limbing. If I am bucking on the wood lot, I will grab the bigger saw every time
 
I've cleared a fair amount of houselots in the past that my MS361's were the smallest saws I used and the bulk was cut with the 2171/066/394 .
These lots were all within an hours drive but , going forward but over the last 6 years , I've run the 2171 once , the 361's and the 034Super polly 2 dozen times as compared to the gallons and gallons through the 026's 16" and the MS241 14" with the 241 being my goto saw for 20" and down for all day dropping and clearing .
If I was blocking 12" and up wood all day the choice would be different but it's not , so small , light , nimble with plenty of power and smooth plus being as reliable as a brick , the 241 with a sharp chain for me :)
Hopefully y'all find a happy balance in the brand you like :)
BTW for pure schitts and giggles , the Meyerized 394 is the winner LOL
As long as I only need to run it for an hour that is ;)
 
I've cleared a fair amount of houselots in the past that my MS361's were the smallest saws I used and the bulk was cut with the 2171/066/394 .
These lots were all within an hours drive but , going forward but over the last 6 years , I've run the 2171 once , the 361's and the 034Super polly 2 dozen times as compared to the gallons and gallons through the 026's 16" and the MS241 14" with the 241 being my goto saw for 20" and down for all day dropping and clearing .
If I was blocking 12" and up wood all day the choice would be different but it's not , so small , light , nimble with plenty of power and smooth plus being as reliable as a brick , the 241 with a sharp chain for me :)
Hopefully y'all find a happy balance in the brand you like :)
BTW for pure schitts and giggles , the Meyerized 394 is the winner LOL
As long as I only need to run it for an hour that is ;)
An hr holy crap, that's like two-three tanks, and would have to clear a couple acres of spruce :surprised3:.
I can't imagine holding on to a 90cc saw for an hr, that's a long time, makes my back hurt thinking about it :eek:.
I pull out the 660 to fell a big tree and make a few cuts, then come the 70-80cc saws. I don't mind running them for a while, but when I get down to the 241 the job is getting done. I use the two 241's a lot, then whatever 50cc saw/saws I have along, now and then I break out a 70-90.
Today was the 550 and a 372 with a 20" and another 372 with a 24". I would have only ran the 20", but I hit metal and grabbed the 24" because it was sharp, not because I needed a 24".
The picco in a 14" is also a breeze to sharpen, if you need to sharpen it, as it holds a nice edge :yes:.

Personally I can't imagine cutting any of the wood cowboy is cutting with anything less than a 70-80cc saw. If you are cutting green wood there and smaller trees, then it would be feasible, but when your cutting 20 plus wood even here in the states a 70cc saw is what I prefer as Mike was saying.
 
A light saw with as short a bar as will do the job has many advantages.... Particularly for aging backs. It may be a few years, but I'd bet even Cowboy will get a smaller saw eventually. A 50cc and 14" bar would zip.

I do see the appeal of big too..... I loaned my bigger saw to my brother yesterday..... I'm missing it already
I actually prefer running an 18 on my 50cc saws as I do the most limbing with them and at 5'7"(with longer arms lol) it gives me a nice reach without having to bend over much, the 18 also helps me keep out of the dirt also.
I like to run a 16" on my little jred 2145 with a ported 346 when bucking in the woodpile as I can use the dawgs without having to worry about the tip/kickback as often, I also usually run semi chisel on it as much of the wood in the log pile is dirty and I'm cutting off the ground a little so a little slower cutting time doesn't bother me as much.
Personally the main thing I don't like about the 241's is that I'm only running 14" bars on them. I've been considering selling them both and getting a ported one so I can run it with an 18.
Running the 18 on a 50cc saw with 325 chain and mainly cutting 8-10" wood and under it works great, and does just fine up to the full 18 if I will have to take the time to fill the tank on a larger saw, although I would rather have the larger saw if time is not an issue.
So with husky and Jonny, the last 2 numbers, is that cc? So 550 -50cc, 562 - 62 cc and 2186 is 86cc?
For the most part that will get you close(within a few ccs) on most of the jreds/huskys.
 
Personally the main thing I don't like about the 241's is that I'm only running 14" bars on them. I've been considering selling them both and getting a ported one so I can run it with an 18.
If it is only an issue of reach, and you are not cutting large diameter wood with them, maybe try an 18" bar with skip tooth chain before you sell them off?

Philbert
 
Next he might say something kind about electric chainsaws!
No worries Philbert, your job is secure for a little while :laugh:.
I really would like to have a corded electric for at the house by the splitter, and I may try a battery top handle next summer, that or a ported 150t:chainsaw:.
 
I really would like to have a corded electric for at the house by the splitter, . . .
I have bought several electric chainsaws for $10 or $20 each at garage sales. I kept them because no one wants to pay me what they are really worth when I try to sell them!

Seriously, it is a very low risk to try this way. If the motor turns, and they have a bar and chain, they are worth $10! If it whets your appetite, then you can keep your eye out for, or invest in, better quality one(s).

Philbert
 
If it is only an issue of reach, and you are not cutting large diameter wood with them, maybe try an 18" bar with skip tooth chain before you sell them off?

Philbert
That's not a bad idea, and I hadn't thought much about it in regards to the smaller saws to be honest. Does stihl sell a skip tooth picco.
It is nice having both of them in the truck, I try to keep them both fueled with sharp chains, I keep semi chisel on one and full on the other for whatever needs arise. You can cut a lot of small wood with a tank of fuel in a 241, the 550 is the same way, but both burn a lot more fuel when you start cutting above their intended purposes.
Reach is a major factor, but I would like to see how a ported 241 handles, I really enjoy the handling of the small huskys(nothing against the stihls, just not my personal preference if there is a good option).
 
I have bought several electric chainsaws for $10 or $20 each at garage sales. I kept them because no one wants to pay me what they are really worth when I try to sell them!

Seriously, it is a very low risk to try this way. If the motor turns, and they have a bar and chain, they are worth $10! If it whets your appetite, then you can keep your eye out for, or invest in, better quality one(s).

Philbert
I've seen those, but I'm more interested in the larger ones, if I'm at the splitter I'm dealing with a little larger wood as it is.
I've seen some real nice ones for around the 150 mark, and a few around 75, just haven't pulled the trigger as it's more something I want to try rather than a need.
 
A 55 is a 53cc saw, I run a 20in bar and full chisel on 4 of them and I do have my FIL's old 55 with a 18in bar and .325 chain. I did a muffler mod on that one and it screams in small stuff, but hardly ever even take to the woods. I also keep a 20in bar on the 365, I do own a 24in for it, but it stays hanging on the wall. I think I am to short for the 24in bar as I always end up jabbing it into the ground. With a 20in bar, I can just sort of lean over to trim a limb or cut a bush, with a 18in bar I end up with a tired back at the end of the day.
 
A 55 is a 53cc saw, I run a 20in bar and full chisel on 4 of them and I do have my FIL's old 55 with a 18in bar and .325 chain. I did a muffler mod on that one and it screams in small stuff, but hardly ever even take to the woods. I also keep a 20in bar on the 365, I do own a 24in for it, but it stays hanging on the wall. I think I am to short for the 24in bar as I always end up jabbing it into the ground. With a 20in bar, I can just sort of lean over to trim a limb or cut a bush, with a 18in bar I end up with a tired back at the end of the day.
The 55's are well built little saws and quite snotty. Most don't know what they are or are capable of.
Funny how that works. I have to bend over a bit for the 18 myself, but bending over that little bit feels better than not bending as much with a 20, but I don't normally run a 20 on a 50cc saw rather on a 60-70cc saw.
It's funny, I can run a saw for hours and not get sore, but washing dishes in the sink for 10 min I get sore:sucks:, I actually enjoy washing dishes as I get to stand and look out the window, I find it quite relaxing, but the back doesn't like it :(.
 
A 55 is a 53cc saw, I run a 20in bar and full chisel on 4 of them and I do have my FIL's old 55 with a 18in bar and .325 chain. I did a muffler mod on that one and it screams in small stuff, but hardly ever even take to the woods. I also keep a 20in bar on the 365, I do own a 24in for it, but it stays hanging on the wall. I think I am to short for the 24in bar as I always end up jabbing it into the ground. With a 20in bar, I can just sort of lean over to trim a limb or cut a bush, with a 18in bar I end up with a tired back at the end of the day.

My go-to is the 361/20". fairly light and screams. I have a 310/16" but it is heavier than the 361. Falling is 441/32". Limbing up to 8" is MS193/14" I carry 25 and 28" bars but but hey don't get used much. All 3/8" chains are skip tooth.
 

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