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Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)
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The compulsive side of me wants to start square filing. The reasonable side of me keeps telling the compulsive side to let the local shop do my sharpening as they are reasonable and do good work......
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mainewoods
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Turkey's scrounging in my driveway. Seems everyone is scrounging around here lately. They didn't seek permission though, so I guess I'll square file me a huntin' knife.
UN ROCKING MY SQUARE FILE CHAIN
OK, so it is no secret that I like square file chain, but I'm also very careful to keep it in clean wood. Well yesterday when that Maple came down it was in a swamp, and there was no air under the tree anywhere, and I did not feel like changing chain (I should have). I had done all the cuts about 3/4 down, so I went to the half way point and went all the way through, and got away with it (just mud down there).
But the timberjack still would not roll the logs, even with an extender on it. So I went to make the log quarter length, and I saw sparks and it stopped cutting.
I just changed saws and finished up, so today I tried to sharpen it up. I usually only do 2 or 3 strokes, but I gave the rocked chain 6-8 strokes. It did not help!
If it were round file I would either break out my 12V grinder or send it to a shop, but I don't have and electric square file sharpener, and no place around here can sharpen square file..
So I broke out a fresh file and gave each tooth an aggressive 15-20 strokes, really took off some material, and it worked, it is back to life! It may not be perfect, but it test cut well, and I'm sure if I don't rock it again it will be as good as ever after 2 or 3 more sharpenings!
It may be a little more work some times, but I'm addicted to the cut speed, and I always have some round file chain as a backup.
On my other saw with 24" square, a few months back I had hit a nail with it, but the damage from the nail was not as bad as the damage from the rock because the saw cut through the nail. The nail dulled the teeth, but they came right back with a sharpening.
Next time I have to go down to the ground, I'm changing the chain first!
OK, so it is no secret that I like square file chain, but I'm also very careful to keep it in clean wood. Well yesterday when that Maple came down it was in a swamp, and there was no air under the tree anywhere, and I did not feel like changing chain (I should have). I had done all the cuts about 3/4 down, so I went to the half way point and went all the way through, and got away with it (just mud down there).
But the timberjack still would not roll the logs, even with an extender on it. So I went to make the log quarter length, and I saw sparks and it stopped cutting.
I just changed saws and finished up, so today I tried to sharpen it up. I usually only do 2 or 3 strokes, but I gave the rocked chain 6-8 strokes. It did not help!
If it were round file I would either break out my 12V grinder or send it to a shop, but I don't have and electric square file sharpener, and no place around here can sharpen square file..
So I broke out a fresh file and gave each tooth an aggressive 15-20 strokes, really took off some material, and it worked, it is back to life! It may not be perfect, but it test cut well, and I'm sure if I don't rock it again it will be as good as ever after 2 or 3 more sharpenings!
It may be a little more work some times, but I'm addicted to the cut speed, and I always have some round file chain as a backup.
On my other saw with 24" square, a few months back I had hit a nail with it, but the damage from the nail was not as bad as the damage from the rock because the saw cut through the nail. The nail dulled the teeth, but they came right back with a sharpening.
Next time I have to go down to the ground, I'm changing the chain first!
We were attacked by wild turkeys last week...
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That is cheating Clint, the excess from those bird feeders always brings them in!
firebrick43
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Nothing sounds worse than turkey's trying to roost. Sounds like bowling balls trying to fly!
When I worked at Rockland Psych Ctr, Security had to remove them! There were three Toms that would try to attack your car when U stopped at a stop sign. If U didn't "move it", U needed a paint job!
One time with the Mustang I was coming back from lunch with 2 co workers and I had to put the Mustang in reverse to get away from them, then I went forward and aimed for them so they gave me enough room to get by.
They are almost as bad as those Moose! (No offense Clint)
One time with the Mustang I was coming back from lunch with 2 co workers and I had to put the Mustang in reverse to get away from them, then I went forward and aimed for them so they gave me enough room to get by.
They are almost as bad as those Moose! (No offense Clint)
mainewoods
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I throw out cracked corn for the doves, not those damn turkey's. With a foot and a half of snow already on the ground, they are gettin' awful friendly. At least the snow makes skiddin' tree length easy.
mainewoods
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Wood dealers are getting $280 c/s/d around here and they are delivering dawn to dusk. Sure glad I scrounge wood.
For grins & giggles, I bought a square cut chain.
After removing it from the package, I looked at it and said "you ain't ever gonna learn to sharpen that".
I now use it for show and tell.
Hey, you want to see a square cut chain ?
After removing it from the package, I looked at it and said "you ain't ever gonna learn to sharpen that".
I now use it for show and tell.
Hey, you want to see a square cut chain ?
I'm a law abiding guy, but if there was a whole flock of turkeys walking through my yard it would be difficult not to put one the menu....
What size is it, want to part ways with it?
Ambull01
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Okay, since ya'll are talking about turkeys and sh*% a quick update.
I figured out the whole 2 stroke vs 4 stroke. YEAH BUDDY!!!!! Muahahahaha! Used the search bar, boom!
Okay back to searching.
I figured out the whole 2 stroke vs 4 stroke. YEAH BUDDY!!!!! Muahahahaha! Used the search bar, boom!
Okay back to searching.
Back to scrounging.
If we ever get two days of sunshine back to back, I have couple cord of hardwood rounds to split and over ten cord white pine.
I don't like to handle wet wood if I can help it and besides it's only 22*F, hands get to hurting, got that white finger thing..
Gettin old ain' for wooses.
If we ever get two days of sunshine back to back, I have couple cord of hardwood rounds to split and over ten cord white pine.
I don't like to handle wet wood if I can help it and besides it's only 22*F, hands get to hurting, got that white finger thing..
Gettin old ain' for wooses.
Some guys will just 'convert' it into a round ground chain with a grinder or files. Some guys here on AS might swap you for a round ground chain of the same size.
Philbert
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Just spoke w/ a couple of pro cutters (real Arborists... I'm a scrounger).
I'd asked what they were cutting and what they were doing with the wood.
The good: They said they were just leaving it for y'all (scroungers), 100 loads. They told me where the nice white oak was.
The bad: It's on Ft Belvoir (Army base). It's not hard to get on base, but who do you ask for permission???
I'd asked what they were cutting and what they were doing with the wood.
The good: They said they were just leaving it for y'all (scroungers), 100 loads. They told me where the nice white oak was.
The bad: It's on Ft Belvoir (Army base). It's not hard to get on base, but who do you ask for permission???
Ambull01
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I don't, I have a military and DoD civilian ID lol.
Thought you could just drive in with your civilian driver's license. I've that before when I forgot my military ID card and security badge at home. They may search your car though. Plus I'm not sure how they will take to you bringing in a chainsaw if that's what you're planning.
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